ArchLinux Based LiveCD for Gaming

The project live.linuX-gamers.net was founded with the idea to present Linux games at the Linuxtag exhibition in a novel way. A collection of games should be shown to directly run from DVD without the user in need to know about Linux or care about his system. After some intense brainstorming sessions the team decided to create and publish this DVD as a live distribution project. Thus an additional and very difficult problem had to be solved: The dvd should run on every x86 PC out there.
At the very beginning the team was split up into two groups. The first group was meant to create a live-dvd based on any existing live distribution and to include games appropriate for younger players. The second group should create a live distribution from scratch, designed for high performance 3d games.
Unfortunately the first team dedicated to the family suited games failed in finding a good live distribution which could be taken to create a base system fitting our ideas. But luckily the second team was successful. They created a livedvd based on ArchLinux.
http://live.linux-gamers.net/

molom wrote:
Wasn't this project previously based on Gentoo? Or what it always based on Arch?
Personally, I couldn't imagine running a live CD/DVD and playing games, you'll probably need 8gigs of Ram and an Intel Extreme processor.
Cheers,
molom
There was a project based off of gentoo back in the day called Gentoo Games. I'm almost certain Linux-Gamers Live is an entirely different effort.

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