Arctic Silver Ceramique and Volcano 11 + Xaser Edition heatsink questions

Hi - I appreciate your help on my other threads concerning my motherboard K7N2 Delta 2 - LSR and my PS/2 keyboard problems.
Arctic Silver Ceramique and the Arctic Silver cleaning solutions should be arriving in a couple of days. I got the replacement K7N2 Delta 2 - LSR motherboard a few days ago. It looks great, but looks are not everything.
The seller also included a Thermaltake VOLCANO 11 + Xaser Edition heatsink. It's massive.
Here's some info:
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/coolers/volcano/rs/a1607.htm
Question 1 - Should I bother to install the sensor under the CPU (AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton Core)? It seems like it could cause trouble.
The heatsink also has a dial to control the fan speed. It is mounted on the back of the case. That's easy to install.
Now to the Arctic Silver Ceramique:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm
Previously, I've used the thermal pads or Arctic Silver 5. When using Arctic Silver 5, I've always spread it over the full surface of the CPU.
The Ceramique instructions say it should be applied like this:
This gives me the jitters. (I have the 32 bit Athlon on the left.)
Question 2: Is this how you personally apply Ceramique?
Question 3: Will it be OK to spread it like Arctic Silver 5?
Thanks
Joe

I go with Wonkanoby.
If you don't put on too much you can use a single drop, and then have the pressure of the seating spreading the paste. Your "old" method is usually better.
The fan may be temp. controlled. If BIOS doesn't pick up the temp. and fan speed and can control it you should add the sensor. I don't know if BIOS will, so if you are worried about noise and such you better check the Internet for someone with personal experience of Volcano.
A bit off: Thermaltake has never ever made good heatsinks, so your dealer must be very relieved now. Spire makes the best for motherboards that don't have the holes around the processor socket.

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