ARD 3.5.1 server to ARD 3.5.1 server times out after inactivity?

So I am just like most in here that are having issues with 3.5.1, but so far I cant see no one has reported the server to server issues.
I have a work machine that I have ARD 3.5.1 on, on a new lion install.  Works great for everything around my office.
I also have a machine at home that I have ARD 3.5.1 for some server stuff.  I upgraded that machine to lion last night as well.  Now, I cant connect home from my work machine.  So thats ARD server 3.5.1 to ARD 3.5.1 server.  If I issue the command on the home machine im trying to take control of:
sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/k ickstart -activate -configure -access -on -restart -agent -privs -all
It will work, but it obviously is timing out or something.  10 minutes later, I cant connect again saying the connection failed, meanwhile the main screen shows whats idle, what program is in use, all updating correctly.
Any ideas?  Love the product, just want to get it working again

I had a similar problem where it worked at first then just started to fail.
I found the answers here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3193742?start=0&tstart=0
and
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2370
I simply issued the two commands he suggested and everything seems ok again. (copying and pasting his didn't work at first cause of an erroneous space between the k and i in the word kickstart in the path.  I fixed it here)
sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/k ickstart -deactivate -configure -access -off
sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/k ickstart -activate -configure -access -on -restart -agent -privs -all
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      RSSHPINSTALLMODE:              DefaultSharePointMode
      RSSVCACCOUNT:                  NT Service\ReportServer$SCOM
      RSSVCPASSWORD:                 <empty>
      RSSVCSTARTUPTYPE:              Automatic
      SAPWD:                         <empty>
      SECURITYMODE:                  <empty>
      SQLBACKUPDIR:                  <empty>
      SQLCOLLATION:                  SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS
      SQLSVCACCOUNT:                 ms\sql
      SQLSVCPASSWORD:                *****
      SQLSVCSTARTUPTYPE:             Automatic
      SQLSYSADMINACCOUNTS:           MS\Gautam, MS\SCOM Users
      SQLTEMPDBDIR:                  <empty>
      SQLTEMPDBLOGDIR:               <empty>
      SQLUSERDBDIR:                  <empty>
      SQLUSERDBLOGDIR:               <empty>
      SQMREPORTING:                  false
      TCPENABLED:                    1
      UIMODE:                        Normal
      UpdateEnabled:                 true
      UpdateSource:                  MU
      X86:                           false
      Configuration file:            C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\110\Setup Bootstrap\Log\20140504_204851\ConfigurationFile.ini
    Detailed results:
      Feature:                       Reporting Services - Native
      Status:                        Failed: see logs for details
      Reason for failure:            An error occurred for a dependency of the feature causing the setup process for the feature to fail.
      Next Step:                     Use the following information to resolve the error, uninstall this feature, and then run the setup process again.
      Component name:                SQL Server Database Engine Services Instance Features
      Component error code:          0x851A001A
      Error description:             Wait on the Database Engine recovery handle failed. Check the SQL Server error log for potential causes.
      Error help link:               http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkId=20476&ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&EvtSrc=setup.rll&EvtID=50000&ProdVer=11.0.3128.0&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026
      Feature:                       Database Engine Services
      Status:                        Failed: see logs for details
      Reason for failure:            An error occurred during the setup process of the feature.
      Next Step:                     Use the following information to resolve the error, uninstall this feature, and then run the setup process again.
      Component name:                SQL Server Database Engine Services Instance Features
      Component error code:          0x851A001A
      Error description:             Wait on the Database Engine recovery handle failed. Check the SQL Server error log for potential causes.
      Error help link:               http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkId=20476&ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&EvtSrc=setup.rll&EvtID=50000&ProdVer=11.0.3128.0&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026
      Feature:                       Full-Text and Semantic Extractions for Search
      Status:                        Failed: see logs for details
      Reason for failure:            An error occurred for a dependency of the feature causing the setup process for the feature to fail.
      Next Step:                     Use the following information to resolve the error, uninstall this feature, and then run the setup process again.
      Component name:                SQL Server Database Engine Services Instance Features
      Component error code:          0x851A001A
      Error description:             Wait on the Database Engine recovery handle failed. Check the SQL Server error log for potential causes.
      Error help link:               http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkId=20476&ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&EvtSrc=setup.rll&EvtID=50000&ProdVer=11.0.3128.0&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026
      Feature:                       SQL Server Replication
      Status:                        Failed: see logs for details
      Reason for failure:            An error occurred for a dependency of the feature causing the setup process for the feature to fail.
      Next Step:                     Use the following information to resolve the error, uninstall this feature, and then run the setup process again.
      Component name:                SQL Server Database Engine Services Instance Features
      Component error code:          0x851A001A
      Error description:             Wait on the Database Engine recovery handle failed. Check the SQL Server error log for potential causes.
      Error help link:               http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkId=20476&ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&EvtSrc=setup.rll&EvtID=50000&ProdVer=11.0.3128.0&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026&EvtType=0xD15B4EB2%400x4BDAF9BA%401306%4026
      Feature:                       SQL Browser
      Status:                        Passed
      Feature:                       SQL Writer
      Status:                        Passed
    Rules with failures:
    Global rules:
    Scenario specific rules:
    Rules report file:               C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\110\Setup Bootstrap\Log\20140504_204851\SystemConfigurationCheck_Report.htm

    Sorry about the error in the path, but you find the files that's the main thing.
    Indeed it is a certificate problem:
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.56 spid12s Error: 17190, Severity: 16, State: 1.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.56 spid12s Initializing the FallBack certificate failed with error code: 1, state: 20, error number: 0.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.56 spid12s Unable to initialize SSL encryption because a valid certificate could not be found, and it is not possible to create a self-signed certificate.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s Error: 17182, Severity: 16, State: 1.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s TDSSNIClient initialization failed with error 0x80092004, status code 0x80. Reason: Unable to initialize SSL support. Cannot find object or property.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s Error: 17182, Severity: 16, State: 1.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s TDSSNIClient initialization failed with error 0x80092004, status code 0x1. Reason: Initialization failed with an infrastructure error. Check for previous errors. Cannot find object or property.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s Error: 17826, Severity: 18, State: 3.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s Could not start the network library because of an internal error in the network library. To determine the cause, review the errors immediately preceding this one in the error log.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s Error: 17120, Severity: 16, State: 1.
    2014-05-04 21:47:43.57 spid12s SQL Server could not spawn FRunCommunicationsManager thread. Check the SQL Server error log and the Windows event logs for information about possible related problems.
    I've recall that I've tried to help people with this error before, but I'm sure they were able to sort it out.
    Anyway, this blog post,
    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sqljourney/archive/2012/10/09/sql-2008-service-fails-to-come-online-with-a-valid-certificate-could-not-be-found-and-it-is-not-possible-to-create-a-self-signed-certificate.aspx
    suggests the issue is a corrupted user profile, and you should try to use a different service account.
    This blog also seems to have a simple solution, but I cannot vouch for that it will work:
    http://www.beejblog.com/2012/02/sql-server-solved-unable-to-initialize.html
    Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, [email protected]

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