Are HRFORMS client dependent?

Hi Gemini.
I would like to suggest my opinion,
[SAP HELP Library - Standard Reference - Client-Dependency of the HR Form Editor|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_40b/helpdata/en/60/d8bc77576311d189270000e8322f96/content.htm]
Hope that's usefull.
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Harsh Dave

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R3TR     FORM     SAPscript form     SYST     X
R3TR     LODS     HRDSYS: Logical information object client-dep. table E SYST     SYST     X
R3TR     PCYS     HR: Transport standard personnel calculation rules     SYST     X
R3TR     PHDS     HRDSYS: physical information object client-dep. table E SYST     SYST     X
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R3TR     SBNP     Logical Information Object for BDS     SYST     X
R3TR     SBNR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects     SYST     X
R3TR     SBPL     Logical Information Object for BDS: Bid Invitation     SYST     X
R3TR     SBPP     Physical Information Object for BDS     SYST     X
R3TR     SBPR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects     SYST     X
R3TR     SBRL     Logical Information Object for BDS     SYST     X
R3TR     SBRP     Physical Information Object     SYST     X
R3TR     SBRR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects     SYST     X
R3TR     SBSL     Logical Information Object for BDS     SYST     X
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R3TR     SBSR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects     SYST     X
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R3TR     SBWP     Logical information object for BDS     SYST     X
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DOC NAME: ALE_SCENARIO_DEVELOPMENT_PROCEDURE
Version 1 Page 6 of 16
ALE Scenario Development Guide
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