Are risks client dependent or independent in GRC 10.0?
Hi Experts!
My bosses has a question:
Are risks client dependent or independent in GRC 10.0?
Logically I would say client dependent, but they need a much official answer.
Could you please someone give this info, who has an installed system.
Thanks for your help!
Peter!
Hi if you're referring to risks generated after analysis 'YES' it's client dependent, basically you analyse risk against the user/role assignment. If you're talking about the risk for initial load I've no system to check but since they're considered as database table entries from technical standpoint, they're client dependent objects only.
Regards,
Asok Christian
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[SAP HELP Library - Standard Reference - Client-Dependency of the HR Form Editor|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_40b/helpdata/en/60/d8bc77576311d189270000e8322f96/content.htm]
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why sapscripts are client dependent & smart forms are client independent?
You developed the script in development client , you can't find the same in testing client even though the server is same.
Where are You developed the smartform in development client , you can find the same in testing client even though the server is same.
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if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
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All the Scripts are Client Dependent Objects
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Client dependent vs client independent
Hi,
CASE-1 :
there are two clients using one Application
Server .
q1) Are scripts and smartforms client-dependent/independent.
CASE-2 :
There are two clients using different Application Servers
q1) Are scripts and smartforms client-dependent/independent.
if smartforms are client independent so why am not able to see it
from dev to qat without trasporting smartform.
as we know smart forms are client independent so under what condition i can see my smartforms in another client without transporting to other client.
please help me out.Scripts are always client dependant and Smart forms are
client independant.
You will be able to see your smartforms in all the clients in the same application server.
For examples in DEV system there might be three clients
100, 300, 500. So you will be able to see ur smartforms in
all the three clients.
But in order to see SapScripts you will have to transport the form from each client to another.
To see the smartform in you QA server which is a different appplication serer you will have to transport objects.
Regards,
Sudhir Atluru
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hi this is vinod,
please explain the concept behind of script client dependent and smartforms r client independent pleaseee its urgent????????????Hi,
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
rewards if useful,
regards,
nazeer -
Difference between client dependent table and client independent table
hi all,
i m new in sap pls tell me the difference between client dependent table and client independent table.
tell me in detail.
thanks and regards
vikas sainiHI
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
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As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
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