Are Tab Groups supposed to be permanent?

When I set one up I expect it to be there where I start from scratch with Firefox. This does not seem to be the case. If I set up a Tab Group, give it a name, shutdown firefox, the next time I select the "group your tabs" button, the group I created is not there. And I see no "Group Tab" button that is supposed to be there after you create a Tab Group.

Thanks for the reply. I never clear recent history. Tab Groups that I have set up and named disappear when I shut down Firefox. If I add more tabs, then they are automatically added in a Tab Group I defined. For the developers, if these groups are not defined and persistent then this feature is mostly a waste of my time. I named a tab group: finance. There should be a list of these groups that I have defined so I can click on a single button and pull up the group at any time in it's own window. If this can't be done then Panorama is an overrated feature not worth messing with IMO.

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RE: Tab Groups. 1. What will erase saved tab groups unintentionally? E.g. : Clearing Cashe, running CCleaner? 2. Does keeping a large number of tab groups active degrade my computer's performance? 3. Are tab groups saved during back-ups?

RE: Tab Groups.
1. What will erase saved tab groups unintentionally? E.g. : Clearing Cache, running CCleaner, other actions?
2. Does keeping a large number of tab groups active degrade my computer's performance?
3. Are tab groups saved during back-ups?
Running Win 7 Pro, browsing Firefox 7.0.1

App (pinned) tabs and Tab Groups (Panorama) are stored as part of the session data in the file sessionstore.js in the Firefox profile folder.
Make sure that you do not use "Clear Recent History" to clear the "Browsing History" when Firefox is closed because that prevails and prevents Firefox from opening tabs from the previous session.
* https://support.mozilla.com/kb/Clear+Recent+History
If you use cleanup software like CCleaner then make sure that Session is unchecked in the settings for the Firefox application.

How are Tab Groups superior to using windows for tab groupings?

With Mac OS 10.5 I have been using windows as a defacto method for tab groupings. When tabs get two crowded, I open a new window. I have to move between windows to get to all tabs in a group.
The Tab Grouping instructions don't address moving tabs from multiple windows into a single large group, say, for charts on a large number of stocks.
[A disadvantage with my multiple window system has been my occasional misstep, e.g., closing a window full of tabs with the red button when I intended to minimize the widow with the yellow button, or, worse, when I get the option after a Firefox crash or power loss to Restore windows and tabs or Start a New Session and I hit the Start New session Button; in either event I lose the tabs and/or windows affected.]

I don't ever use it because I think it is odd to have tabs floating around my desktop but you can drag Snippets, Connections and Reports outside the SQL Developer Window - Detail tabs and the Worksheet can't be. Not sure if this works on a Mac or if this is what you were looking for but wanted to mention it.
-- Sharon

In FF5.0 this Tab Groups feature doesn't work: "Once you've created your first group, the Tab Group button will be added to the right end of the tab strip to give you a one-click way to get back to your groups."

The sentence in quotes in my question is from the instructions under "What are Tab Groups?" (Redirected from "What is Panorama?")

Thank you cor-el. I had tried that but the icon wouldn't go on the tab bar. Now it will.
All this may be me, but I still suspect FF5. For WHY did it not happen automatically, as the help page indicates?
Sorry, only just got back to click Solved, as the icon is now where it's supposed to be. The icon I got from the Customization window before was useless on my cluttered toolbar, and I thought the only way to get it to appear on the tab bar as advertised was to remove it completely and see if it appeared in the right place after a reboot or something. I think we're probably still at the stage where we have to settle for ad-hoc fixes of the mercurial behaviour of new versions.

Is there a Keyboard shortcut to: a) Switch between Tab Groups? b) Switch between matching Panorama search results?

a) Switching between tab groups would improve my workflow. Like Alt+(Shift+)Tab to switch to next/prev Tab. Cmd+Shift+W/R wold be another possible option beside the Cmd+Shift+E for Panorama.
b) When searching in Panorama Tabbing between results would be great.

CTRL+SHIFT+E got me to the tabs group "menu" so you could pick which tab you wanted. it's all explained here:
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/what-are-tab-groups#w_how-do-i-switch-between-tab-groups
I hope this is what you were looking for.

Create Tab Groups not working

I have just tried to follow the Help topic at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-are-tab-groups#w_how-do-i-create-a-tab-group, to create groups of tabs relating to same subject, ready to save the tab group as a Favourite/Bookmark.
With the Tab Group view open it says "To make a new group, simply drag one tab out of the group and then drag a second one on top of it. A box will be drawn around them."
Looking at the screenshot accompanying the instruction, it appears that the selected tab from the group view is 'dragged' on to the Desktop (it doesn't actually state where to drag the thumbnail image of the tab to in the instructions).
As soon as the thumbnail image is dragged outside of the tab group view panel - i.e. towards the Desktop - a black 'no entry' symbol (black circle with black diagonal line across its diameter) appears over the thumbnail & when the left mouse button is released the thumbnail 'snaps' back into its original position in the tab group view panel.
What am I doing wrong?

Hi ukdeejay,
Are you sure that you've actually opened the Tab Group window? Try hitting ''CTRL + SHIFT + E''. From this screen you just drag one item out of the existing group.
You might want to try starting Firefox in Safe Mode and trying it from there. If it works in Safe Mode, you should look at [[Troubleshooting-extensions-themes]].
Hopefully this helps!

'Tab Groups' surely has an automatic mode whereby a group is dynamically defined by 'similar URLs'

The question says it all I think but my particular interest comes from not having a better principle (I used to have automatically common-coloured tabs but I forget how - perhaps Stylish...) of making a subset of tabs with a common theme (in this case similar-URLs) be easily re-visited. My main interest (currently) is no more complicated than grouping by URL which is crying out to be automatically maintained. Thanks.

Hi,
Is it [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/colorfultabs/ ColorfulTabs]??
[http://www.binaryturf.com/free-software/colorfultabs-for-firefox/colorfultabs-documentation-and-help/ KB]
[http://forums.binaryturf.com/ Support]
Also, [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-are-tab-groups?s=tab+group&r=0&as=s Tab Groups] as of now doesn't have an automatic mode. You can manually group tabs/URLs into a group and [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tabs?redirectlocale=en-US&s=tab+group&r=0&as=s&redirectslug=what-are-tab-groups#w_how-do-i-switch-between-tab-groups switch] between the relevant groups.

Tabs: previous versions allowed for saving all tabs in a bookmark folder. The new tab groups do not behave this way. How can I save permanent set of tabs as a group that is available later, like the folder of bookmars was?

tabs: previous versions of firefox allowed for saving all tabs with a group name, so you could open them all again later at your convenience. The new firefox 4.0.1 has a new tab feature, but the tab groups do not seem to persist once you shut down, and are not saved as a folder in your bookmarks. What am I missing? How can I do what I want (save permanent set of tabs as a group that is available later, like the folder of bookmarks was)? Thanks

Right click one of the tabs, the "Bookmark all tabs..." option.
Does it do what you want?

Is there a way to make tab groups permanent?

in a few occasions when i open a new window,
and close the window with my existing tab groups first.
i can't recover the tab groups that i've created

yes that is exactly the problem , here's the sequence :
normally i only open 1 firefox window, and it has all my tab groups.
so i am able to open/close firefox and retain these tab groups.
and then there are times when i just have to open a new window,
and unfortunately, there are times when
- i close my base window first ( the one with the tab groups )
- then i am left with the new window ( which no longer retains my tab groups )
- i have no choice but to close this new window
when i reopen firefox, i no longer have my old tab groups.
so this is where my problem lies. of course if can make
the habit of always going to firefox > exit, at least the
tab groups are always available.
it would have been great if these tab groups are stored
permanently, like bookmarks. it just feels convenient
to use.

Close tab groups actually closes tabs rather than just the grouping. How do I recover all tabs, not just the last 10? Pages and tabs are not in recent history.

I had a problem with tab groups - if I mistakenly close tab groups, I can only recover the last 10 tabs.
I had a window with many more than 10 tabs which I reopened each session by going to History > Recently Closed Windows. I knew this was risky - I could lose this if I did not keep it in an open window or recently closed window. So I was looking for a way to save this window with all the tabs. I looked into tab groups and, not knowing what I was doing, I closed the groups of tabs. There seems to be no recovery for other than the last 10 tabs. And open tabs are not necessarily in recent history if I have not accessed the tab and refreshed.

I don't use tab groups myself, but I know of a way to increase the number of closed tabs that Firefox remembers. Unfortunately, it's not retroactive...
(1) In a new tab, type or paste '''about:config''' in the address bar and press Enter. Click the button promising to be careful.
(2) In the search box above the list, type or paste '''sess''' and pause while the list is filtered
(3) Double-click the following preferences and enter the preferred new value:
(A) '''browser.sessionstore.max_tabs_undo''' (default: 10)
(B) '''browser.sessionstore.max_windows_undo''' (default: 3)
Regarding what is in history, by default, Firefox will load tabs on demand when you restore a session, rather than loading every single tab immediately. If you turned off that setting, or if you visited all the tabs, then those pages should be in history, but finding them amidst all the others would be quite a challenge...

Does Firefox "freeze" tabs that are in an inactive tab group to increase performance/save memory?

Tabs that are in a tab group but are otherwise not in focus occupy the same amount of memory as the tabs that are open. In all probability, this is inefficient. I realize Firefox handles all tabs as one process (as opposed to Chrome's single-process-per-tab), but is there anyway within Firefox's framework to freeze these hidden tabs and unfreeze them when they're in focus? It seems like it would speed things up considerably.
Still, I LOVE Firefox 4 and have been using since Beta 7. Thank you! :)

Hi.
This is about a question you posted to the Firefox Support forum three months ago (I'm sorry you never got an answer).
Did you ever fix the problem where Firefox freezes or hangs, when clicking a download link or using (File menu) "save as" or "open file"? Or when going to the Firefox (Tools) menu and clicking Options ? Or trying to Import or Export bookmarks?
I found this thread searching for a solution for someone on MozillaZine's support forum who's having a similar issue. See this thread: (maybe something he's tried that didn't work for him will work for you?)
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2382953&start=15
<br>Cannot download or click tools -> options

When using Panorama, everytime I create a New Group, I am redirected to the Google Calendar App that I created. Tab groups are not being remembered. Any workaround?

I am trying to use Panorama for the first time. I can successfully create a tab group, but Firefox does not remember it. When I view a new web page and try to use "add to group" I am redirected to the app tab I created for Google Calendar. I am using Windows 7 64x with Firefox as my default browser.
Are there any know issues with the apps tap and Panorama?

I have a somewhat related problem running FF7 on WinXP32, specifically concerning your ''I can successfully create a tab group, but Firefox does not remember it.''
When I reopen FF, I find FF
* ''sometimes'' does not remember all tab groups.
* ''often'' seems to move at least 1 tab from one group to another.
''kursiver Text''
I am new to using this tab grouping feature, and I have not identified a specific and consistent misbehavior yet.

Where are the group tab settings stored in linux?

I installed a new Linux OS on my system and saved the .mozilla/firefox folder so I can later recover any settings I could lose.
Now I realized I lost all my group tabs after reinstalling, and thought maybe I can recover them from my backed up .mozilla folder.
Does anyone know where I can find the settings for group tabs in the .mozilla folder? (I don't want to copy the entire backup folder over my current folder)
Thanks,
Claudiu

App (pinned) tabs and Tab Groups (Panorama) are stored as part of the session data in the file sessionstore.js in the Firefox profile folder.
* http://kb.mozillazine.org/Session_Restore
* http://kb.mozillazine.org/sessionstore.js
* http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox Firefox

My tab groups are not being saved

Spend ages setting up groups but they're never there next time I open FireFox. What am I doing wrong??

App (pinned) tabs and Tab Groups (Panorama) are stored as part of the session data [1] in the file sessionstore.js [2] in the Firefox profile folder [3].
Make sure that you do not use "Clear Recent History" to clear the "Browsing History" when Firefox is closed because that prevails and prevents Firefox from opening tabs from the previous session.
* https://support.mozilla.com/kb/Clear+Recent+History
* [1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Session_Restore
* [2] http://kb.mozillazine.org/sessionstore.js
* [3] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox Firefox
It is also possible to use the "Show my windows and tabs from last time" setting, that is usually a more reliable way to restore session data.
* [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Menu_differences Firefox/Tools > Options] > General > Startup: "When Firefox Starts": "Show my windows and tabs from last time"

Panorama tab groups are not snapping to the edges of other groups

I upgraded to Firefox 5.0 and the tab groups in the Panorama view are no longer snapping to the edges of other groups like it did in 4.0.x. Is there a setting for this someplace?

The LDAP graph is responsible for showing the membership when viewing the user properties, an issue like this would indicate the graph is not auto updating. It normally builds when starting the CMS then every 15 minutes or so for new users (depending on system activity). It shouldn't lose any info (if it does this indicates a caching or communication problem with AD). There is a graphtimeout setting in the registry (search SAP notes) if this were disabled then it may cause similar symptoms.
I'm not aware of any bugs in 3.1 causing this behavior so you may need to open a case with support (authentication team) to help troubleshoot.
Regards,
Tim

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