Are these temps ok? (Core i7) (MSI Pro-E)

Hello folks, before I started doing some light OC, I wanted to make sure that my system was stable at stock settings, without any after market cooling devices.
My h/w specification goes like this:
CPU - Core i7 920 D0 Stepping 2.67 GHz
Motherboard - MSI Pro-E
RAM- Corsair 6 Gb kit 1333 MHz
Video card- Nvidia 9500 GT 1 Gb
Hard drives- WD 500 Gb X 2
Operating system- Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
PSU- Corsair VX450W
I ran Mprime (the linux port of Prime95) for an hour without any issues. The temperatures were as follows:
Idle: CPU: 25-26
IOH: 64
Load: CPU: 84
IOH: 77
I know that IOH temps are high at idle, but am getting an Antec Spot Cool fan to fix that. (thanks to the informative discussions on the forums)
However what I want to know is that at full load, isn't the CPU temp too high ? My system didn't crash, but since I am new to this subject, please let me know what you think. Also, since it has been mentioned in the forums in threads regarding the high IOH temps that a lot of after market coolers leave little room for cooling of the heatsink...which brand/model/type of an after market CPU cooler according to you folks should I go for ?
Also, is there a possibility of slightly OCing the system, say up to 3 GHz, with the stock cooler, or should I start saving for a good CPU cooler ?

Quote from: Aaron on 11-February-10, 12:28:13
84 at stock? Something wrong there. Shouldn't even be going over the 50s. Make sure you installed the CPU cooler correctly. If you reinstall it and the temperatures are the same, then the chipset heatsink is making little/obscured contact and needs to be reinstalled. A fresh blob of TIM on the chipset wouldn't hurt either. (Doing both the CPU and chipset coolers would not hurt one bit.)
I still don't know why MSI's IOH temperatures are still so high. It's been months now and they still have this inconvenience/issue.
Thanks a lot for the information. I have re-checked and the CPU cooler is installed fine, is fixed tight. I will try your other suggestions as soon as I get the thermal compounds. Sidenote- Arctic Silver Ceramique should be fine, right ?
Quote from: HU16E
IOH is ok, but if you feel adventurous, new TIM & adding a nylon washer between the stock washer & spring should help. The Antec Spot Cool is a great temp reducer. All my rigs run a Zalman 9900. One reason I like it on an X58 rig, is because it gives a little passive air onto the IOH similar to the stock cooler. smile
Added: Once you get that high CPU at load figured out, you should be able to run the stock cooler up to around 3.5-3.6 with no problem.
Thanks HU16E, your posts on the other thread (on high IOH temps) have also been useful. I will look into buying the Zalman 9900, thanks for the info.
I hope I haven't done any damage to the CPU by running that stress test for an hour. (n00b query: why didn't my system shutdown at such high temperature ?)

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