ARIS and INTALIO

Hi all ,
I would like to have some comparison points on the tools- ARIS and INTALIO. It would be great if you could highlight some points.
Thanks,
kanan

Dear Kanan,
IDS, ARIS platform for process excellence, has expanded relationship with Intalio Inc., which provides the execution engine that enables process blueprints created using ARIS, and a new relationship with BPM.
The expanded relationship with Intalio will amount to the further integration of the ARIS modeling toolset with the Intalio/n3 Business Process Management System. The tighter coupling will bring better adherence to BPM standards like BPMN (Business Process Modeling Notation) and BPEL (Business Process Execution Language), and help users better integrate process models.
Inatalio managed to port their legendary SAP connector and thier ARIS importer to Intalio|BPMS 5.0. The SAP connector can take any version of SAP, all the way back to SAP R/3 3.1i, and expose all BAPIs, IDOCs, RFCs, and ALEs as ready-to-use web services, for both inbound and outbound transactions, on the fly, without having to write a single line of code, ever. All 150,000 transactions offered by SAP R/3 or mySAP are available directly, as well as custom ones developed by customers.
Intalio made it much easier for ARIS Process Platform customers to connect together process models with the Intalio/n3 Designer, bind them to third-party systems and Web services, and then deploy them onto the Intalio/n3 server.
For more information regarding Intalio visit the following link:
http://www.intalio.com/news/intaliobpms-for-sap/
For more information regarding ARIS go through the following thread:
ARIS & NETWEAVER
Reward points if this is helpful.
Regards,
Naveen.

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Phil Gleadhill

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