Arranging tracks with the Zen Stone P

I've recently upgraded from a Zen Nano Plus to a Zen Stone Plus. With the Nano I had?Creative Zen Nano Plus Media Explorer, which allowed me to change the order of tracks?in a folder and number them automatically. Zen Nano Plus Media Explorer?doesn't work with the Stone, so any arranging and numbering of tracks has to be done manually, which is a right pain.
Is there a version of Creative Media Explorer available for the Stone Plus, or perhaps some third-party alternati've that would allow me to do the same thing? Thanks in advance.

I have the Stone (not Stone Plus) ... it doesnt have bookmarking, but it does have the ability to fast forward/rewind by holding down the skip fwd/back keys. Also (and I dont know if this is a function of my audiobook or of the player), it seems to create a .pos file next to my audiobook file, so if i move from an audiobook to my songs and then back, it picks up the audiobook where i left off.

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I am a runner and I am interested in the Zen Stone Plus. I use iTunes and various iPods. How would the Zen software coexist with iTunes.
Most of the music in my library is from?my own CD's?and not from the iTunes Store. Thank you. Bob Michiel?

Yes, the softwares can co-exists with each other. However the iTunes would not work with the Zen Stone Plus.

The Zen Stone architect

I recently got a GB Zen Stone, and I love the thing to death. Nifty little flash dri've that just so happens to play MP3s too. Genius.
Despite only owning it for near a month now, I've some questions about its primary workings, and hopefully a member of the development team would grace my post with an in-depth, technical response.
First off, the lowest volume setting is too loud. My ears hum after listening at that volume for 3 hours straight (my typical music selection is a mix of jazz (Ellington, Davis), classic rock (Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Grateful Dead), sitar (Ravi Shankar), and classical (Gershwin, Yo-Yo Ma playing Bach). Nothing that gets violently loud on its own). I downloaded and installed the software application that controls the volume, but it only restricts the maximum volume level. Oh, I should mention that I am currently using the earbuds that came with it, but I don't think that matters.
Second, what factors influence the Shuffle algorithm/function? It could just be me, but it seems like the same songs come up again and again between listening sessions (a session being the time between power-on and power-off). Does the folder and/or file name length have any influence?
Third, is there a way to add or remove audio codecs from the player? WMAs are terrible, and I'd love to be able to play OGGs.
Those are the only two things I can think of. If my mind sparks and I figure something else, I'll add it on to my list.
Thanks to you for reading my post, whomever you are.

Yes, the softwares can co-exists with each other. However the iTunes would not work with the Zen Stone Plus.

PROBLEMS with the zen sto

so the first problem with my zen stone i found was that no matter how much music i had on it, it would only play certain songs. for example, if i have 200 songs on it, it only plays abou 30 of them over and over....i tried using the online manual but that was NO HELP, it makes no sense when it tries to describe how to organize music/folders.
now i have another problem...my stone WONT PLAY MUSIC. i open the folder and click and drag files from itunes(like i did before) into the folder, and it loads them. as soon as i disconnect my player and hold down the play button to play, it blinks 3 times and nothing happens, and everytime i hit play after that it does the same thing..
please helP!

I use Widows XP Professional SP3 and Windows XP Professional x64 SP2 with medially .
I can't see why this matters because the problems are located at the player itself, I've got no
problems with moving files to the player or any problems with connecting the player with the computer,
I'm experiencing a lot of freezups of the firmware of the player, harddisk keeps running, it does that
till the battery is low or till I push reset, sometimes this doesn't help at all, the operating system at
the harddri've gets somehow damaged by the instability of the filesystem, reflashing the firmware helps
the. Problems appear to be a software problem with the firmware, the player went away for repairs once,
with this problem, they have checked the harddisk, harddisk was fine but the os crapped up it's self
somehow, know this because I asked them to tell me every thing what was wrong and how they solved this,
asked them also how I could fix the player myself? if it was no hardware problem.
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When streaming a movie with the new Apple TV, and using a DSL Internet connection, all audio sound works, e.g., the music track, but the audio track with the actor's voices, does not work. What can I do?

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Thanks restoring and restarting didn't fix my problem - i have started it fresh and still it doesn't work. Basically I press ONCE on the remote, after the machine has not had any commands for 10 minutes, and the cursor skips from one end of the menu to the other - so I can't choose network or update software etc - I sometimes manage to stop it randomly in the middle of the menu if I press on a command in the middle of the cursor skipping all the menu steps...not sure what the problem is but I have basically not used my brand new apple tv since I bought it for that reason! I should call Apple support I suppose! grrrr hate wasting time with stuff like this!
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After doing a sizable amount of research on the Creative Zen 6gb MP3 player, I was relati'vely comfortable with the product and decided to purchase it.
However, after browsing this forum for a few hours, I see quite a few things that trouble me about Creative in general:
"Real person" my (CENSORED) -horrible customer support
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and a countless number of other posts about hardware and software issues with the Zen
I really like the features built into the MP3 player (FM transmitter, voice recorder, Equalizer) and do not want to sell my soul to Ipod.
That being said, I wanted to see if there was anyone on this forum that actually liked their Zen and did not have issues with it.
I would greatly appreciate your positi've feedback as I hope that I will not have to spend countless more hours searching for and then researching a different MP3 player that fits my needs.
In addition, I was curious about the user interface on the Zen. I know that it uses ID3 tagging and that a folder directory cannot be used to view mp3s on the player (unless this has been added in a firmware update?, however I checked the site and did not see anything about this addition). How impeding is this ID3 tagging reliance if about 00 to 500 of my mp3s have incorrect tagging? as in, will I go crazy trying to retag everything because all I see if "Unknown" for all the data?
Yeah, that's about it for my long winded post...
Thanks,
Joe?

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Since the player is very new, there havn't been any updates for the firmware, if that's what you're wondering. I personally don't own a Touch, rather, I have an Xtra, but basically just follow the instructions on the installation manual (usually tells you to charge the device for x amount of hours, how to connect the device to your computer, install the included software, etc).
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I recently bought my friends 40gb jukebox zen xtra from him. The first thing I did when he gave it to me was reformat it. Then I synced it with my windows media player library and it connected fine. After I did that, I've experienced the following problems:
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- The characters in Track Details show up as boxes
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I don't mind having to reformat again if that will help.
There are a lot of songs I'd like to add to it and it none of the programs will detect it when i connect it with the USB, the other problems are just irritating, thats the important one.

Sorry I took long to respond.
I ran through the tutorial you linked me to, I changed the "permissions for usb" as it instructed, and, unless it requires me to restart the computer before the changes take place (I havent restarted it), it didn't solve it because Windows media and zen media explorer still don't detect it.
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I've had my Zen Touch for a couple of months and so far so good - only two freezes and thats all.
I've been using WMP0 to organise my music and rip tracks from CD's, but have used Creative mediasource to transfer everthing over to the touch.
Big problem is that my library in WMP0, which is up to date and complete, is way ahead of my library in Mediasource. Before i added more music i made sure that media sniffer was enabled, and pointing towards my music folder. It picked up some artists that i added a few days ago, but anything within the last two days is yet to appear. About 0GB of CD ripped mp3's were added, so im wondering if its the volume of music which mediasource has to add in to its library which is the problem.
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a) I could have sworn that i got the touch to appear in the sync part of WMP0, but everytime i plug the touch into the cable wmp0 freezes while trying to search for devices. I've tried a couple of different techniquees to get this to work;
. Load mediasource-> Plug in Touch (Loads lib)-> Load WMP0-> Searches but then freezes
2. Load WMP0-> Plug in Touch-> Searches but then freezes
3. Plug in touch first with no programs running-> Touch doesn't dock
I'm pretty sure i used the st technique before, which worked ok but doesn't seem to anymore.
b)Until i created a new library in mediasource, the program was duplicating entries of around a /4 of my entire music collection. I've always used WMP0 to rip tracks, rather than mediasource so im clueless to why these tracks became duplicated.
Thats about it, these problems are temporaly sorted for now - i have all my music on the touch, but after hours of battling with WMP0 and mediasource in particular. Hopefully with new firmware i can stick to WMP0, but im curious to how other zen touch users connect, organise and transfer their music libraries.

funkymojo44 wrote:Sounds simple; i take it the mp3 gain analyses and corrects the volume of each mp3. I never realised that Realplayer could work with the touch, i take it that it recognises the touch ok?
Correct on the MP3gain.
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Hi, I have had this for 3 days and cannot get to grips with how to get tracks on it. I have been ripping CD's using Windows Media Player, then opening the 'My Music' file and using the drag and drop function. I originally used the Creative Software but have since removed it as I thought it would be simpler to just use the Zen file. So I then drop the music file into the Zen file. Within the Zen file I created 2 new files so eg '80's music' and 'new music' and I dropped the relevant tracks in each. I then unplug the MP3 player and find the '80's' and 'new' file on it but the tracks are mixed up so I have some 80's in the new music?file and vice versa. Some of the tracks?that I dropped into file on PC, are just not on MP3 (these seem to be ripped tracks that the computer did not recognise so are titled 'unknown' - but they ARE in the Zen file on PC).
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No replies, so possibly I didnt explain it as well as I thought!!!
Anyway, in case it helps someone else in the future, I updated my firmware, so all is now working fine.
Happy days

Arranging tracks with the Zen Stone P

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