Artboard and bleed areas

Hello
I'm testing Illustrator before buying - I have a simple question please. The attached document will clarify. I've created a document of 200 by 70. When I export it, the surrounding area (which I think is the bleed area but may not be) is far too big. I've set the bleed area to zero and zero but still the area is huge. I want the artboard to fit up against the document, which it seems to do when I'm working on it, and when I export as a PNG, when it's too large.
Thanks
Aidan

The drop shadow is what's causing it. The image needs all that area to completely render the drop shadow.
You can A) reduce the size of the drop shadow, or B) set the artboard to the exact size you want the image then click the export to the artboard then use Save for web, not the export command. (which will clip the shadow too).

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