Article says K8N Neo has SATA frequency locking problem

This article says that the K8N Neo has SATA frequency locking problems when overclocking:
http://www.nforcershq.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1801
First of all, is this true?
And if it is true, do we have a BIOS that fixed this problem.
My drives are PATA right now so I currently don't have any problems but I plan to get SATA drives/adapters soon.
I'm running 240 HTT (1:1) so not having the SATA frequency locked could be an issue.

Well, I´m running HTT 230 now, and I´m always using my Raptor as OS disk. Haven´t had any problems yet (with my disk). It´s connected to s-ata_1. Haven´t tried the other ones.
But sometimes when I boot (200 or 230HTT, doesn´t matter) I get artifacts on the boot screen and in Windows, so I have to restart.
Could it be a partially working AGP-lock? It seems as at works most of the time, but sometimes not... Strange... AGP is set to 66-67MHz

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ATAPI Devices on K8N Neo Pt. SATA Ports?

Hello,
I'm having difficulty getting any ATAPI optical drive I own to work through a PATA > SATA adapter on my K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) SATA ports.
I am using a Silicon Image SATALINK 3611CT80 SATA > PATA adapter to use a Lite-On LDW-811S DVD+/-RW drive, or a Lite-On 166S DVD-ROM drive. Neither one seems to work when plugged into SATA Port 1, 2, 3, or 4.
There is an indicator light on the adapter, and it flashes once when the PC is turned on (letting me know it has power) then the light shuts off and remains off (letting me no it has no link with the SATA controller). Windows recognizes either drive when it's hooked up to the adapter, however, I cannot access either drive when its hooked up to the adapter (it locks up the PC instantly)
I had no such problems using this same adapter on an Abit NF7-S 2.0 motherboard earlier, so I know the adapter is not faulty/damaged.
What I'd like to know is: does the K8N Neo Platinum support ATAPI devices (natively or through an adapter) on the SATA ports?
My system specifications:
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (ADA3000AEP4AX / CBAPC 0404VPMW / 9814255B40259)
MSI K8N Neo Platinum (1.4 Official BIOS)
OCZ Technology 2 x 256MB Enhanced Latency Platinum Edition PC3200 Rev. 1 DDR Memory
Matrox Mystique 220 4MB VGA Videocard (temporary card during troubleshooting)
Maxtor 160GB UDMA/133 Hard Drive (Primary Master, IDE 1, only drive on cable)
Lite-On LDW-811S DVD+/-RW Drive (Secondary Master, IDE 2)
Iomega Zip 100 Insider ATAPI Drive (Secondary Slave, IDE 2)
Lite-On XJ-HD166S DVD-ROM Drive (Trying to use on ANY SATA port, Master, only drive on cable)
SinoTech CWT-550ADP Power Supply
nVidia UDP 4.27
Windows XP with SP2
Thanks for your help

Hey,
Thank you VERY much for your help. I really appreciate your help. I just heard back from MSI and they are relaying the same message you gave me (nVidia's SATA controller does NOT support ATAPI devices at this time)
I also found out that Abit's popular Serillel 2 SATA > PATA converter uses the same Silicon Image bridge chip as is found on my converter, and it states here that when hooked up to ATAPI devices these Sil3611 chips are "Compatible with SATA controller of Silicon Image on motherboard only!"
So I guess I'm outta luck on using this guy at all until nVidia changes something in their SATA implementation.
Glad to learn something, sorry to see my DVD-ROM go :( Its served me VERY well
Peace

K8N Neo and SATA overclocking issues?

I'm thinking of getting some SATA Adapters for my PATA drives to help improve airflow in my K8N Neo Platinum.
I do have a few questions though.
I've been reading some threads about various issues regarding SATA like corruption of data when overclocking FSB.
I'm currently running 245 FSB 1:1 with the 1.42b2 BIOS.
First of all, will the SATA adpaters slow down my drives?
Will I experience any corruption or any other issues with using SATA (and adapters) with my drives?
Thx for sharing.

Don't bother doing what you are thinking...
as for SATA, it has the ability to be faster than IDE, but because of the drivers it doesn't have a speed advantage so much right now. The only SATA drives I would get would be raptors, which I have one...otherwise I would go IDE

SATA frequency locked?

What SATA ports are frequency locked on the K8N SLI Platinum? are all? just wondering since I will soon run with overclock and SATA drives.

Quote from: syar2003 on 25-June-05, 23:55:38
All four nvidia chipset integrated is okay on NF4 as they don't use the bridge function from chipset as NF3 used to the external marvell PHY .
On NF4 all four use the NF4 chipsets PHY .
It's the marvell phy on NF3 that doesn't lock . It scales with HTT .
Ah, that explains why some boards do not have all Sata locked. Thank you for the info.

K8N Neo-FSR - SATA?

hello, in case I missed the information I apologize . I got the K8N Neo-FSR and I want to ask if there is four Sata support on the board. I have noticed that on the board and also on your homepage-pictures there is only support for two Sata (Sata 3, Sata 4), but in the manual there is support for up to four Sata.
Is it four or two Sata support on the board?
Thank´s

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Can I run single sata drive on them without pata drive
- Yep just plug it into either socket.
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use the rest of sata drive (140gb) normally?
- No. if using raid it's preferable to use drives of same model (so that they share operating spec) & size so that no wasted space.
You may find this sticky link useful Raid Guide
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K8N Neo 2 Platinum - installing xp problem

Ok guys i just installed a new K8N neo 2 platinum with a 3200+ s939 chip. Now i ran off the xp cd and i told it to format as ntfs, it did that fine and dandy. Now after that it starts to copy windows xp files and it does that fine, now it comes to the point where it has to restart for the first time. So i restart and after i let it go past the part where it says "Hit any key to boot off cdrom" or whatever, then it comes to booting off the harddrive and it says "operating system not found"

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Could the difference be because you have the neo and RC1 whereas I have the neo2 (1.4 BIOS) and RC2?
Don't think so most likely difference between destination drives, yours is a sports car, fast when it's running but quircky, mine's a transit van works even when old & abused.
Have you checked Western Digital Jumper Settings Pata & Sata even new drives have been known to have been jumpered wrongly.
Onlly other maybe relevent thing I burned my iso at x8 to try & maximise cd quality, have seen a few pps with xp64 cds they couldn't boot from on the ms 64 newsgroup. Don't know if your cd may have been slightly screwed if thats the echnical word for it

K8N Neo-V v2.0 Serious Problems in Windows

I am on the verge of sending the board back for a full refund. That being said, here are the details of my issue.
System specs:
K8N Neo-V v2.0 Bios v 5.3
Asus GeForce 6600 LE
2 512MB sticks of generic pc-3200 ram
WD 80GB, Maxtor 60GB IDE drives
Toshiba/Samsung CDR/DVDR drive
Using onboard lan/audio
The problems I'm having are that now I have Widnows Pro SP2 installed and nothing works. Enabling the Audio/Lan/USB in the bios makes the secondary cd/dvd drive not work giving an error in the device manager that it can't find enough resources to start the device. The Lan seems to install but does not get an ip address and does not work with an assigned one. The audio says it might be installed but still has yellow splats all over and does not work. The USB simply doesn't showup either.
The video card when I install the latest nvidia drivers seems to go thru the install, then when it reboots it doesn't use the drivers. In the device manage it says "your computer's firmware or bios does not include enough information to properly run and configure this device, code 35"
I am pulling my hair out because I'm certain these are ALL chipset problems with the nforce3. The ram is generic but is working fine and would not cause problems like this.
If anyone can shed a little light, that would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Note: I forgot to mention that all SATA/RAID stuff is disabled in the bios. When you disable the AUDIO/Lan/USB the secondary cd/dvd drive works fine but of course everything else is disabled.

From the link u posted:
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PS-CM-450Wpad $14.99, 2 for $27.98, 10 for $109.90
I think u just set a new record for the cheapest PSU ever used on this forum
Get a decend one !!!
Why do you think most exprienced members here have a PSU that costs at least 4 times the amount u paid ?
Here is mine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151023
I gladly payed them 100 bucks for the efficiency, stability and safety features on it, cus i don't want my valuable gear to get demaged (again !!) by some crappy PSU.

K8n neo platinum and hard drive problem...

greetings...
well, I have K8n neo platinum mobo with SATA1 controller, and I bought WD 250 GB sata2. I did set up jumper to limit transfer to SATA1 mode on my new drive (although I tried it without jumper, it is the same). Hard disk is working but, I have varying trasfer rate when I copy files from WD250 on other drives, and when copying on that drive. Transfer is going fine, and then it goes very very slow, then again fast, then again slow...And, sometimes, when I am copying large amount of data on that drive, my computer freezes. When I test sustained speed, it is different almost every time (goes from 14 to 65)...
I searched thru internet - with no sucess. I have very good power for my PC. I changed sata cables, and power cables. I updated all drivers. I tried installing XP IDE drivers for that new SATA2 hard disk. I tried almost everything, and with no sucess. WD250 is working fine for, let's say, a couple of hours, and then it again goes slow with varying transfer rate when copying. I also have a very good cooling system, so it's not because of overheating. I contacted WD, they told me to run their diagnostic tool, and the disk was healthy. They said that drive is ok then, and that it is probably my mobo that is causing problems.
anyone have a clue what is going on?
thanx in advance

damn...
can't believe no one ever had similar problem...

K8N Neo Platinum and Maxtor HD problem

I have a K8N Neo Platinum MB with the v1.3 Bios installed.
I have 2 physical HDs:
IDE Primary Master: 120G Western Digital WD1200JB (7200RPM)
IDE Primary Slave: 120G Maxtor 6Y120L0 (7200RPM)
The MB sees both drives in the BIOS, however, in Windows XP, I only see the master drive. The slave drive is not recognized within windows. I tried finding the slave drive with the MS Computer Management application and PartitionMagic as well - neither can see the slave drive.
There is something strange about the BIOS screen.
You can see that the primary master is highlighted (in red). The primary slave drive is visibly but it's not showing properly. You can see that the name of the slave drive is all the way to the left and the "]" character is all the way on right panel, next to "Press [Enter]". The name of the slave drive is wrong. The BIOS is showing something garbled. It looks something like "8t/r 6!128". It's tottaly confused :(
I can even select the primary slave drive:
That's not right!
Pressing enter on the slave drive shows the slave drive (Maxtor 120G) properies:
However, Windows XP will not recognize the slave drive.
I ain't sure what wrong but it appears to be a BIOS problem - why would the BIOS display be so messed up like that ??
I'm not sure what to do. :(

Yea, I'm really mad because not only will this board not recognize my slave driver properly, it may have also killed my X800 Pro video card
I moved my working X800 Pro video card from my old MB to my new one and when I turned it on, the X800 Pro was dead.
I then reinstalled my old MB, hoping it was merely a faulty MB that was the problem, however, my X800 Pro is quite dead now
I'm not sure if it was me who damaged the X800 Pro or it was the MSI K8N motherboard - either way it's dead
My experence so far with my new MSI MB has been horrible !!

K8n neo 3 and radeon 9600pro problem !

ok have anyone have the same problem with radeon 9600pro like me. the card is agp slot and when starting the computer the screen doesent react at all its stay blank. but when putting the radeon 8500 it starts if anyone could say where is the click.... thanks
the mainboard is k8n neo 3 gold

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Make sure in the BIOS it is set to run from AGP, if there is that option.
the bios itself detects if you use a pci express or agp card in the AGR slot, you cant configure it.
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There have been some issues with the 9600 series and 8X agp / agp fast writes.
Try forcing 4X agp and turning off agp fast writes in bios to see if it at least boots for you.
there are no settings like fastwrites or AGP mode. the AGR slot only works with cards which are compatible.
have a look http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/agr/7135agr.pdf
i had luck my card works and is not on this list

MSI K8N Neo Platinum with Vapochill Case problems - Help anyone. :)

Hi all,
Had a bit of a tricky problem and as Im new to this board I have no idea what could be causing this.
First all all system specs:
Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer
MSI K8N Neo Platinum -
1 gig Corsair XMS ProL Low Latency Ram (2 x 512mb)
Nvidia Gefore 6600GT
1 x WD Raptor 10000rpm HD
NEC 2500a DVD writer.
Eye-T 550w PSU.
Vapochill SE Case with installed Vapochill Phase change cooling.
Here are photos of it in its present state, you will notice that it isnt installed in the case at the moment.
The reason for that is because the two wont work together and I want them to so so bad...
So, hopefully someone here can save the day for me - here goes.
I have tested the Motherboard and all other componants outside of the case and everything runs smoothly and there are no problems what so ever, great.
I have also retested the Vapochill case with another motherboard and that also works without a hitch.
The problem comes when I insall the MSI board into the system, all hooked with a really basic setup, PSU, Case cooling, CPU and Ram. Flick the on switch on the power suply and the system turns on for around 1/2 a second then turns off again. I found this strange because it soundnt come on at all until I press the power button.
If I press the power button the same thing will happen over and over.
I have tried a different powersupply and this does nothing at all.
I have checked for shorts and there is no possible way it is shorting on anything.
I have a fan plugged in where the CPU fan would go and this doesnt help.
I have taken it back out and tested it again and it still works ok.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Are there any secret Bio's menu's that would have an option that would solve this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Glenn

When you are running the MoBo standalone, what are you connecting to the Power, Reset, HDD, etc. pins ? Are you using the wires from the Vapochill case, or something else ? It looks like a single cable with an intermittent switch (red/white cable). I once had a similar sort of problem and it was because I hadn't connected up (the incredibly fiddly) cables correctly. Other than that, I would have gone for a short of some sort - but you have checked that already, so . . . .
As to the system starting to power-up when you switch on the PSU, I wouldn't worry too much about this. It seems to happen from time to time with some of my systems - amongst other things, the BIOS can be set to resume to previous state after a power-fail.

K8N Neo Platinum with Venice vcore problem

Hello,
I got a new Socket754 CPU Venice E6 3000+ and replaced it with NewCastle CG 3200+.
But BIOS indicates VCORE is 1.9V+. It's obvious that it's too high and also CPU temp is 0C/32F.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Athlon64 3000+ Venice E6
K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) BIOS 2.1
WD Raptor 36GB
Reserator1 Plus
Seasonic S12 500W
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
SB Audigy2

Please create your own rig and put in your sig with details of PSU and BIOS rev. Have you OC'ing your pc recently?

K8N Neo Platinum and BGF 6800GT problem

Hey
recnetly set up my board, and having some issues with freeze midgame and really poor 3d mark scores, i.e. im getting 22000 in 2001!!
How do i stop this problem, and power shoudnt be a problem given the power supply i have, so would anyone have an idea?
What should i set the bios up to look like and anything in XP i should be doing?
thanks

Not sure about the mid-game freeze, but your 3DMark01 is spot-on with that score, if not a bit high. My 3500+ gets ~22.5k at stock, but at 2.5GHz I get 24645. It's very CPU limited so your video card isn't going to make much of a difference past a certain point.
What games are you experiencing lock-ups in?
I'll try to cover all bases here, so some things might help, others not:
1: Make sure your power inputs are connected properly (I know, it seems so obvious it's insulting, sorry).
2: Disable NV/ATI speedup in the BIOS. To reveal hidden BIOS options and reach this setting hit Shift+F2 and ALT+F3 all at the same time. Someone let me know if that's the wrong combo but I think it's correct.
3: Grab the 71.20 FW drivers, they're about the best you can get right now, don't get the crap 66.93 officials, their performance doesn't compare in most situations.
4: Disable Fast Writes in the BIOS; sometimes this has helped fix stutter problems, but if you're getting FREEZES... well it might not help.
5: Drop all clocks to stock settings and see what happens. If that works, try different OC settings if you want.
6: Update your games, of course.
7: Defragment your hard drive.
I highly recommend downloading 3DMark03, 05 and AQ3 and reporting your scores there and whether or not you get freezes/stutter in those benchmarks. 3DMark03 and 05 are more video card intensive and should exploit the problem you're having. AQ3 might do it too.
Just suggestions, nothing's guaranteed to work. Post back though if you have any new information or if you get it fixed.

K8n neo Platinum and Optical Drive problem?

I need some help figuring this out. I've been searching for awhile but can't find any more information so I figured I'd ask here.
I have a Lite on LDW 411s dvd writer that is on the same ide channel as a lite on dvd player (labled as JLMS SJ-HD1665 in the device manager.
The problem is on the 411S where it will read the DVD/CD disk but when I try to use Cyberlink PowerDVD or Nero Recode to play or read the DVD it will just hang. If I don't try to play these files and just open them in explorer then I can access them.
I'm trying to see if there are some conflict issues with the nforce drivers but am still looking.
My setup is this.
AMD 64 3000+
K8n Neo Platinum nforce 3 250 Bios 1.4
Western Digital 120 gb hd
PQI 3200 1 gig memory
PNY 6800 GT
Audigy 2
Antec Trupower 420
Any help would be great as I'm totally stuck. Thanks.
Also to note I can play DVDs and use recode fine off the DVD rom drive but just not off the DVD writer (411s).

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Originally posted by BluddSimple
I have a Lite on LDW 411s dvd writer that is on the same ide channel as a lite on dvd player (labled as JLMS SJ-HD1665 in the device manager.
You might have better luck making the reader the slave on the channel your HD is on. I had both a burner/writer on the same channel and while it worked, the performance was very poor.
Man, I need to get around to posting my specs someday, but I have the same MB and BIOS as you. I'm also using the nForce unified drivers including IDE.

K8N Neo Plat SM Bus Controller Problems

Hi, I just did a recent build witht the K8N Neo Plat and am having some problems.
My original build kept getting corrupt files from any self extractor that did a self verify. I could install windows and the MSI NForce Drivers but many files got corrupted. I finally figured out it was Bad Ram and replaced the PC 3200 I Was using with a stick of PC 2700 I had lying around. I installed windows with no problems and all of the windows updates(which were where I was getting corrupt files). But then when I installed the NForce3 Drivers from the MSI Cd I get blue screen of death, which I did not recieve with the bad ram. I then revert to last known good setting and can install of of the NForce3 drivers except for SM Bus Controller. I have tried using the NForce3 Drivers from the MSI CD and a download version. Both won't install, it still shows up with an exclamation point next to it in device manager. I have tried choosing the driver directly, but I get an accessed denied message. The only problem is when SM Bus won't install, I cant run my new 6800 GT at AGP 8X. It stays stuck in PCI mode.
Also I see a lot of talk about CPU Temps reported by BIOS. I am using the 1.1 Bios, and it shows the CPU running at 65-70C. Core Center shows this also. Is this just a misreported temp? Im using a 3400+ CLawhammer CG Revision with a Zalman 7000 ALCu with Arctic SIlver 5, the HSF seems to be screwed down completely, but the temp reading still makes me nervous.
Thanks for any help.

apply minimal heat paste
clamp sink down switch machine on
the prob is not the heat the prob is the chip clocking 8ghz
the sink and fan work really well
the bios is version 1.5 public
i'm trying to back flash it but i need version 1.1 .1.2. 1.3 and the prog to fash it
and an explanation (it's my first time lol)

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