Artist Sorting Issues

Hey, I recently downloaded IOS 7 for my Ipod Touch. My problem is that songs not made by an artist show up under them. For example, I click "Artists" then scroll down to "Our Lady Peace." The songs are all separated by album, great. However, the song "Life" is on a compilation album, and so all the songs on there are showing up under "Our Lady Peace."
I only want to listen to Our Lady Peace songs, not all the other songs on the compilation album. What's the point of having an "artist" sorting option if its going to include compilation albums? I get that its showing all the albums, but since technically "Big Shiny Tunes" isn't acually an album by Our Lady Peace, why is it here?
Yes, sorting by album artist fixes this, but then it causes another problem. I have several "Now!" CDs, which means that I might only have one song by a particular artist. So instead of "Gangsta's Paradise" being sorted under "Coolio," the song is sorted under "Various Artists." So do I have to manually change the "Album Artist" for each individual "Now!" song, or is there another way?
Thanks, Aaron
P.S. Sorry if my explanation is unclear or confusing.

I'm not sure if it's what you need or not, but under the settings and music there's one to turn sorting by author on or off. Maybe that can help?

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I just upgraded to iTunes and have a few compilation ablums that under album artist i have listed various artist so they will group together when sorting under albums. This still works fine. However when viewing my music when sorted by artists the songs are sorting under various artists (the album artist) rather than as the actual artist. Is there any way to fix this without disrputing how the group under album?

Just found another thread on this and it seems like there is no way to fix this issue It's annoying because my the previous version of iTunes handled this problem fine.

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Hello,
I have been struggling with this for a while now and it's really becoming irksome.
I have to have a compliation CD displayed as Various Artists when searching through my iPod on Artist browse mode, yet once the individual songs are played i want to be able to view the actual artist.
For instance i have a CD called Blues Essentials with various songs by different artists, i need these so show up under the same artist search reference as "Various Artists" however when the song is played it would be nice to see the actual recording artist, i have tried a combination of various renaming and nothing seems to work

Whatever is entered in the "Artist" field in iTunes will be displayed as the artist when you're navigating to the artist and when the song's actually playing.
What you're asking to do would require two different fields for two different sets of information.
One possibility is to change all the "Artists" to the actual recording artists and instead of navigating by artist on your iPod, navigate by album.

Help with Artist Sort Problem Needed...

This is a bit long, so I'll start with the three main questions and below them is the backstory and detail of the problem (I did do a search but nothing turned up):
1) Does anyone know how to fix artist sorting issues where the artists are properly sorted (alphabetically by last name and band name) but there are constant grey-bar letter headings for the first name (sorry...I don't know how to explain better than I do below in detail)
2) Will re-setting the Touch require I have to...
a) re-add all the songs I've manually selected again
b) re-input any data saved to apps (such as CarCare and
Pocketpedia) and if so, can I backup that data first?
3) If all the re-doing in 2 above is necessary if I were to re-set the iPod, can anyone think of an alternative fix that would avoid a reset?
I might be able to get to an Apple store this weekend to ask a "genius" but I'm not that confident in them since I was given some incorrect information on how the Touch handles playlists at the time of original purchase.
Okay... now, what happened:
I'm not sure what to make of this, fortunately playback and all main functions are unaffected. I have my iPod Touch 2g set for manual sync. Today, while I was charging it at work, my PC (WinXP) froze. I gave it plenty of time to unfreeze, but eventually had no choice but to do a hard reboot while the iPod said "syncing." I slid the slider to cancel the sync, but the iPod didn't respond. I unhooked it from the PC and it unfroze. I shut it down and re-started.
Everything seemed fine after the iPod reboot except that now, while the artists are still sorted alphabetically (I've manually set artists to sort by last name), there are headers using the first letter of the first name between each artist. So, for instance, this is how the top of my artist list looks now (lines below with just a letter are the grey divider bar with the alphabetical header):
R
Ryan Adams
D
Dave Alvin
T
Tori Amos
E
Eric Andersen
A
Apples in Stereo
Arcade Fire
L
Louis Armstrong
A
Ataris
...etc.
This problem has not extended to album or song title fields, but for some reason, when scrolling through the album view using the index on the right, it moves fine until "O" -- then it sits still as I scroll down until it gets to "#", at which point it's resposnive again.
I've checked the music library on the iPod via iTunes and the artist sort fields are still correct.
Suggestions? I'm new to the Touch and am leery of doing a reset yet since it's taken time to figure out which songs from my 100+gb library to manually put on this. Also, I have no idea how it will affect the apps I've downloaded. There are some where I've saved data (such as CarCare and Pocketpedia) and I REALLY don't want to risk having to re-input all that data.
To anyone with any words of advice, thanks in advance.
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This is an answer to only qestion 2. Yes restoring your ipod will delete all songs, apps, videos, etc., but you can back up settings like a passcode lock or screen brightness. But it will ask if you want to back up settings. If your'e on windows, in itunes go to file and down almost all the way you will see a "Tranfer purchases from (ex.) steves ipod" and that will make sure you have all your apps and music and other stuff.

Coverflow sorting issues

Bear with me on this one....I have an extensive Itune library mostly sorted in albums listing. Just upgraded to a 80gb Classic which obviously has Coverflow. Noted that when looking through Artist lists some artistes which I knew I had loaded were not there but did appear in Coverflow.....at end of the list after XYZ....established that what had hapened was that when I had originally burnt the CD to Itunes I had the 'compilations box' ticked and these were the albums that had found their way out of sequence....OK. Today I decided that to get it organised I would move the 'said' albums to their respective Artist folders in my Itunes folder and then make sure that Itunes could find the tracks.....done that and then cleaned off ipod, and reloaded...guess what.....no change. Can someone throw some light no this as I was convincved that my 'tinkering' today would sort it out

Did you unset the Compilations flag before/after moving the files around? The organisation of tracks in iTunes & on the iPod is not related to the location of the phyisical files.
*HowTo: Grouping Tracks Into Albums*
Excuse the long post, but hopefully covering all the bases (that I can think of) will help you fix the other issues you are likely to run into as you try to organise your iTunes library.
*Use an album friendly view*
iTunes will let you sort music on many columns, some of which are unlikely to group albums together or put the tracks in their normal order. The most useful order for editing the library is probably *Album by Artist*. If you're not already there, select the list view and click on the column heading for Artist until it reads Album by Artist.
*One cover, too many tracks*
The iPod (and iTunes to a lesser extent) conflates two or more albums with the same title, most obviously with *Greatest Hits*. On the iPod this can result in one album acting as a combination of two or more. Selecting any cover gives all the tracks of all albums with the same title. The workaround for this "Greatest Hits" bug is to give each album a unique title - I tend to go for *Album - Album Artist* as this reads clearly in the iTunes browser. Alternatively you could use the wording as it appears on the cover or append different numbers of spaces for each different album. Somewhat oddly, setting different values for Sort Album doesn't work.
*Album not with others by same artist*
iTunes relies on the Gracenote CDDB database when identifying CD's. This often marks collections or anthologies of an artist's work as a compilation. In iTunes, however, the compilation flag has the logical function of grouping together tracks with the same album name, but different artists on each track, e.g. "Now That's What I Call Metal 666!". These compilations are then all grouped together at the end of cover flow. Most of us however, would expect "Greatest Hits" albums to be listed with the other albums by the same album artist. For albums which are essentially by a single album artist or group it is best to set the appropriate value for the album artist and clear the compilation flag.
*One album, too many covers*
For true compilations, where each track is by a different artist, the answer is to set the compilation flag to true and enable the iTunes preference to *Group compilations when browsing*. Otherwise tracks which list guest artists will be treated as separate items. Filling in the Album Artist field is enough to link things in iTunes. Sadly, however, the iPod ignores the Album Artist field when grouping albums so this is only a partial solution. You can simply mark the entire album as a compilation which seems to be the way iTMS handles it, however that's not an ideal fix. Short of waiting for Apple to address this issue (and as far as I can tell it goes back to the 1st gen. of iPods) we need a workaround. What I do is to put any additional artist info. in square brackets after the song name. E.g. *Track \[Feat. Guest\]* and then set *Artist=Album Artist* for each track. For anthologies where the Album Artist is credited as part of another group, e.g. for Cream tracks on an Eric Clapton anthology, I use *Track \[As Group\]*. For a track where the main Album Artist doesn't receive a credit, e.g. the first track of the Slim Shady LP credited to Jeff Bass, I just set the track name to *Track \[Guest\]* while still setting the artist to the album artist. N.b. I use square brackets to indicate this is not part of the actual song title and also use this style for Mix/Live/Bonus info.
*One album, still too many covers*
iTunes may split albums into two or more sections if some tracks from the album have different values for Artist, Album Artist, Album, No. of Discs or Part of a Compilation. Tiny differences such as trailing spaces, accented characters or variants of symbols can sometimes be quite hard to spot. The iPod is also more sensitive to case variations and may split or reorder an album that looks okay in iTunes. Normally overtyping the desired value for each shared field will complete the grouping of the album into one entity. Occasionally, however, this method seems to fail. When this happens I've found that you can force every field to update properly by adding some extra text - e.g. a trailing X, which once applied seems to complete the joining of the tracks into one album. Once this has happened the extra data can be removed and the album should remain properly grouped.
*Tried that, there are STILL too many covers!*
The Sort Artist, Sort Album & Sort Album Artist fields can be used to override the normal sort order. For example iTunes automatically drops leading articles (a/an/the) so "The Beatles" are arranged under "B" instead of "T". Occasionally different tracks from the same album can have different values in these sort fields which can also break up the grouping. Making the sort columns visible in iTunes can help with spotting & correcting such problems.
*One cover for multi-disc album*
Multi-disc albums are often listed as *Album (CD1)* for CD 1, *Album (CD2)* for CD 2 etc. To display these properly using just one cover, each disc should have the correct *Disc X of Y* values set, and then the entire album should be given the single title Album. Being somewhat obsessive I also renumber the tracks sequentially, working backwards from the last track (so that no two tracks ever have the same number) until I reach disc 1. BTW You can still give the individual discs different artwork should it be relevant so that the correct artwork will be displayed as the album progresses.
*One artist, many names*
With some artists, particularly classical composers, you should be aware of alternative representations of their names. E.g. 2Pac vs. Tupac. The menus will work best if for each artist you standardise on just one form of their name. E.g. make a choice between Mozart, W.A. Mozart or Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and then apply it consistently. For classical music I tend also to use the Composer as the Artist & Album Artist and either discard the performer details or place these into the Comments field.
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Front Row sorting issues

Hello,
I know this issue has been posted several times and without any real solutions. But I'm going to ask again anyway in case the magical hacking gnomes have found a work-around.
I have many sorting issues. There seems to be a lot of kvetching on here already about how Front Row sorts TV shows. But not only do my shows come up backwards within seasons, in some cases seasons themselves are out of order. For example, I have all 3 seasons of 30 Rock (purchased through iTMS) and they go season 1, season 3, season 2. Several other shows with multiple seasons are the same.
But I also have a music sorting issue. The first part of this issue has to do with compilations. I've got several compilations in my library, and in iTunes I've sorted them by Various Artists rather than individual artists. In Front Row, if I scroll down to "V," there is no "Various Artists" like you might expect but instead a list of all the artists in all the compilations completely out of order. (Actually, they're ordered by their track number on the different albums. Yeah. That makes sense.) I could deal with these artists showing up in their normal places alphabetically, but not all lumped together under V.
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I've considered switching to a different media management program, but what I like about Front Row is its simplicity. I don't really feel like learning a whole new system (let alone getting my wife to buy into that idea). I've got better ways to spend my time. So, it's a trade off, I guess.
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I can't believe we're still banging on about the sorting problems. Apple have seen fit to provide a number of features to allow the user to get iTunes working the way they like, e.g. grouping compilation artists and the use of sort fields. I think you can now even keep compilation artists grouped on the iPod. But why oh why do they then totally ignore this for the AppleTV and Front Row (which look like the same codebase to me)?
I have hundreds of genuine Artists that I want to see listed in the Artists' list, but not the thousands of others that appear on compilations. They don't even sort the artists by the Artist Sort field that they themselves provide in iTunes. This makes a nonsense of trying to use either the ATV or Front Row.
Playlists are no help as they simply lump all contained tracks in one great list. Useless.
The annoying thing is, they can get it right. iTunes just gets better and better in this regard, each release sorting out more of the omissions of earlier versions. But ATV and Front Row - nope, nothing. Still just as stupid as always. Just what will it take to convince Apple to 'sort' (ha) this out? How can they justify such entirely different ways of working on their different products?

How do I remove all traces of 'album'? I do not want artwork, blank place holders, titles or artists sorted by album? I just want my music listed by title, artist or genre.

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Settings > Music > unselect "Group by Album Artist" seemed to work for me.

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If I buy an iPod Classic today, is there an option to have artists sorted by album artist? Thank you

I'm fairly certain there have been no changes to the classic firmware.
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There is a way of entering sort fields on multiple tracks.
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