AS81 Legacy group asset

Hi Experts,
Now we are implementing group asset concept in the implementation. So, when ever I am giving takeover values in to legacy group asset AS81, I am getting higher NBV. suppose the Acquisition value is 50000
and Acc ord depn is 10000 and I am getting 60,000 NBV
actualy it should be 40,000.
In takeover values what are the values Can I enter both acquisition value and acc depn or Only acquisition value
waiting for the reply.
Thanks and Regards,
Satya Vani.

Hi Syam,
Have you message Message AY252 - Current fiscal year XXXX has to be after transfer date ZZ/YY/XXXX?
If you enter the date from the error message ZZ/YY/XXXX is should work.
You will have to ensure that the
Closed Year is in line with Transfer date and
Current Fiscal Year is later than Transfer date.
Following Parameters are relevant:
T093B-ABGJA = Closed Year
T093C-DATUM = Transfer date
T093C-LGJAN = Current Fiscal Year
Regards Bernhard

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I got a requirement to upload legacy group assets for IT Depreciation, for that how to create it in AS81.
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Give your suggestions how to resolve it.
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Hi Syam,
Have you message Message AY252 - Current fiscal year XXXX has to be after transfer date ZZ/YY/XXXX?
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Regards Bernhard

Legacy Group Asset

Hi Experts,
Please suggest me how to upload my legacy assets into SAP and Take over Values for Group assets.
I need to take from the business/Can we create by own.
Regards,
Satya Vani

First set parameters for asset data transfer.
Asset Accounting-Asset Data Transfer-Date Specifications-Specify Transfer Date/Last Closed Fiscal Year
Asset Accounting-Asset Data Transfer-Date Specifications-Specify Last Period Posted in Prv.System (Transf.During FY)
After this Use tcode AS91 for creatign the legacy asset data, This will ask all the values for a ll the depreciation areas you hve created.
You need to seggregate assets into "Assets existing at the start of the fisacl year" and "assets acquired during the fiscal year till the time of cutover".
FOr the second case you need to select the transaction type as 100 and date of acquisition along with APC.
You also need to get the data depreciation accumulated upto the start of the fiscal year and ordinary depreciation posted during the year.
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I have configured the Group Assets.
For Asset migration data I have created a Legacy Group Asset through AS81 and also assign that to the Legacy Assets which I created through the AS91.
Now system is showing me the book depreciattion accurately but when I execute the report through Dep Area 15 system is showing me the group asset & their only uploaded balances such as Acquicition & Accu.
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Hi,
Have you checked your settings in OAYM?
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My client is using group assets for tax depreciation report India.
The SAP implementation was done in 2006 during the data migration the
client was not clear of the values both individual asset wise and
group asset wise to migrate to tax depreciation area. So the tax
depreciation for some of the assets are migrated with some
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Sep, Dec, Mar.
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each asset individually. But I am not sure whether this is correct.
And also what to do with the previous years balances. I am very
confused. Somebody suggest good solution.
When I create a legacy asset or group asset in AS91 and AS81
respectively the fields in the Takeover values screen are grayed
out and do not allow mw to input values. But I am able to enter
values by clicking the button Transactions in the Takeover values
screen and able to enter a value date , transacton type and amount
for tax depreciation area. Here again I am not convinced using 100
transaction type for current year opening balance. I used
transaction type 652(Unplanned tax depreciation on current year
acquisition) for accumulated current year dpereciation upto second
quarter septemeber 2008.
In asset explorer under "Planned values" tab the opening balance
must be visible under Fiscal year start column but it is displayed
under change column as I entered values for tax depreciation area
in AS81 in Transaction screen with asset value date as 01.04.2008
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652 xxxxxxxx.
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Komal

Dear Experts,
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We have a Legacy created Assets which already have value. These Assets were created two year ago. At that time we have not assigned any Group Asset to them. Now in the current year we want to assign group asset to these asset. My questions are:
1. Is it possible to do so.......in the current year....?
2. If yes, how the value of the Asset would flow & what value would flow, balance as on the date of creation of group asset?

Hi Akhil
The T code to upload the group asset values is AS82...
Since your takeover date is 2 years old, I dont know if you will be allowed to enter them now.... Go to AS82 and see if it helps
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While Creating Group Asset I am getting the Following error:
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Message no. AY160
Diagnosis
You cannot create group assets in company code 1000. There are no depreciation areas that can manage group assets in this company code.
Procedure
Make sure that you really want to create a group asset in company code 1000.
If so, then allow group assets in the desired depreciation areas.
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Thanks & Regards
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Check the config in OAYM and OAAX.
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Pls explain me the **only Group Asset Configuration - GL A/c's - Asset Creation- ** steps and also the fields what we have to give in the steps. I will assign points to U. Need each & every step & field.pls watch the following and give me.Pls dont give the links.
1.Copy Ref CODor Dep Area.
2. Delete other than Book Depn & Spl Tax dep.
3. Asset Class( A/c det,screen layouts,no range).
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5.Assgning the GL a/c's which fields we have to give.
6.Determine Dep area in Asset class - which check box I have to select.
7.----
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9.----
10.----
11.----
12. AS21- which fields i have to give.
13. wher I have to link the Normal Asset to the group Asset ?
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Rajan.

follow these steps,
1. copy chart of dep: t.code : fc08
2. delete depriciatin areas
3. assign to company code; oaob
4.specify account determination, create screen layout rules
5.define number ranges; as08
6.define asset class ; oaoa
here you have to give no ranges, account determination for all asset classes.
7. determinine depriciation areas in asset classess; oayz
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8. now you have to assign accounts for postings; a090
goto each account determinatin and assgin relavent gl accounts in all cloums
9. specify document type for posting depriciation
10. specify rounding figures of net asst book value/depriciation; oayo
11. define screen layouit for asset master data, depriciation areas, define base methods, multilevel methods etc.,
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13. now you should have one asset, so create one asset maser record; t.code as01, post the purchase transation by f-90
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I am getting the following dump while creating Group Asset through AS21-
Runtime Errors         OBJECTS_OBJREF_NOT_ASSIGNED
Except.                CX_SY_REF_IS_INITIAL
Date and Time          19.11.2007 21:16:06
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     Access via 'NULL' object reference not possible.
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has
come across a statement that unfortunately cannot be executed.
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An exception occurred that is explained in detail below.
The exception, which is assigned to class 'CX_SY_REF_IS_INITIAL', was not
caught in procedure "SET_MANAGER_FOR_UPDATE" "(FORM)", nor was it propagated by a RAISING clause.
Since the caller of the procedure could not have anticipated that the
exception would occur, the current program is terminated.
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You attempted to use a 'NULL' object reference (points to 'nothing')
access a component (variable: "GO_ASSET_MAINDATA").
An object reference must point to an object (an instance of a class)
before it can be used to access components.
Either the reference was never set or it was set to 'NULL' using the
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Line SourceCde
545 *      -->P_LS_WORK text
546 *      <--P_LO_ASSET_MANAGER text
547 *      <--P_LO_TIMEDPNDNT_MANGER text
548 *----
549 FORM set_manager_for_update
550        USING
551          is_work TYPE raist03
552        CHANGING
553          co_asset_manager    LIKE go_asset_manager
554          co_timedpndt_manger LIKE go_timedpndt_manager
555          ct_err_msg          TYPE tt_err_msg.
556
557   DATA:
558     ls_asset_maindata TYPE gty_s_asset_maindata,
559     ls_anla_key       TYPE anla_key,
560     ls_err_msg        LIKE LINE OF ct_err_msg.
561
562 * check operation
563   IF is_work-kz      EQ con_ins AND
564      is_work-flg_unr NE on.
565
566     MOVE-CORRESPONDING is_work TO ls_anla_key.
567     ls_anla_key-mandt = sy-mandt.
568     ls_anla_key-anln1 = is_work-anln1_new.
569 * start of Note # 954513
570     IF ls_anla_key-anln1 IS INITIAL.
571       ls_anla_key-anln1 = is_work-anln1.
572     ENDIF.
573 * end of Note # 954513
>>>>>     ls_asset_maindata = go_asset_maindata->get( ).
576
577 * clone time-independent asset data manager
578     TRY.
579         co_asset_manager = lcl_amd_mngr_clone_factory=>clone_asset_manager( ls_anla_key ).
580
581       CATCH cx_faa_asset.
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Hello Hrishi
I have researched your issue and note 1063792 should resolve it. The
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Reshma.
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Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
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3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
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