ASNs with Third Party Orders

Hi All,
I ve tried my luck by posting this question some time back but had no response. Want to try once more.
The scenario is with Third Part Order Processing. We have some third party orders. The vendor manufactires the goods and ships it directly to the customer. Fine till here. But since the order is placed with our client, we need to send an ASN out to the customer. If we do not send an ASN out we attract chargebacks from teh customer. To send ASN out we need to have deliveries and TPO Orders do not have deliveries.
Any idea how to overcome this GAP? Last time when I posted this question, I did not get a single response. Its surprising that no client had ever come up with this requirement.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. All the help documents only talk about recieving the Vendor ASNs in teh company and auto creation of inbound deliveries. Our requirement is to send ASNs out to Customer.
Thanks & Regards,
Vidya Sagar

Hi,
Then go with the option you have mentioned earlier All the help documents only talk about recieving the Vendor ASNs in teh company and auto creation of inbound deliveries.
Once the inboud delivery is created, you can send the ASN from the inbound delivery document. To complete the process, just do PGR of the inbound delivery and no need to do MIGO. In SPRO, check the settings for Inbound delivery document type, remove all the check marks pertaining to MRP (then inbound delivery type is excluded from MD04 records). Check the path Go to path SPRO -> Materials management -> Inventory managment and physical inventory ->Rough goods receipt for inbound delivery settings.
Regards,

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1. Create Vendor XK01
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3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
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10. Billing      *--
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