ASO Time balancing with multiple hierarchies

Hello,
I have an Essbase 9.3 ASO cube with multiple hierarchies in the period dimension (set as type = Time), and I'm trying to set one of my Measures to Time Balance Last with SkipMissing.
When I validate the outline, I get:
"This prototype must have all its shared members as siblings of previous sibling."
on all the leaf level members in my period dimension.
any ideas?

We are on Essbase 9.3.0.1 and also tried to use ASO Time balance functions in conjunction with multiple hierarchies enabled.
I recommend you not to use the ASO time balance functions. We did and had to revert everything after complaints from our user base.
If you still use it, please test cases where you retrieve TB Last as well as flow values together with ytd and periodic values.

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[http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/334/pas1y.jpg]
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[http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2586/pas2.jpg]
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[http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3103/hier1.jpg]
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Hi Shashi,
first of all, thanks for your answer.
But I don't understand when you say that "we cannot have two hierarchies on the same dimensions"?!?!?
I already have some years of experience with PAS database and it's not the first time I create a dimension with more than one hierarchy. I use also that in a productive system (before this SSM front-end) without problems. And in this latest version of PAS (version 7.5.6) it's still possible to use that feature. As you can see in my initial post, I put two screen shots of the dimension with two hierarchies in PAS dataview, and works fine, without problems in the drill-down/up.
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