Asp vs oracle forms

which one is the best choice to develop large web application
Asp or oracle forms (d2k)
in which 400-500 users will access the application
for data-entry purpose and lot of validation in that application

Kuljeet,
if I could answer this in one sentence, then there would be no question about who wins the Pulitzer prize next.
Actually it depends on many factors. First of all, using Active Server Pages creates HTML content and should be compared to Java Server Pages instead of Forms. in this case my recommendation would be to use Oracle JDeveloper and BC4J not to lock you in with Microsoft. If your application requires a rich user interface with a high volume on transactions performed then having a Java Applet interface makes sense. This is Forms then and you are doing good to use that tool. The question that you need to answer yourself is "How long stay users within the application ?", "How many LOVs and list boxes do i need?", "Is there a requirement for users to scroll big volumes of data?". Based on this and similar questions you determine the technology you need on the client Java Applet vs. HTML. If you decide for HTML, then please compare JSP and ASP. You get a copy of JDeveloper from otn.oracle.com/products/jdev.
Other factors that should appear in your equation:
latency
bandwidth
user experience with Web application
can you ask users to download and install a PlugIn
Hope this helps
Fran

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trying to move from IIS to Oracle Portal. any pointers would be
extremely helpful
1. How to configure Oracle Forms to run with Portal.
2. Is it possible to display forms inside a Portlet. If so, will
the forms hold the same state when the page is refresed.
3. Is it possible to display WORD/PDF/EXECL documents in their
native format inside a Portlet.
4. Any information on how IIS security integration is possible
with POrtal. i.e ( if there are ASP pages running on IIS
security, how to integrate it with Portal Security mechanism
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You can create roles in Oracle with the appropriate privileges to access the application. For example,
you could create a role that has only read access to all the tables in the database. You could assign this role to the menu. Also, you may want a role for a manager that whould enable him to insert data or to see a few special forms. You could assign this role to the menu associated with the form.
Using Form Builder, you can manage menu security with Oracle server roles. After defining the roles to use for a menu module, you could then specify the roles that have access to each menu item. When you set the 'Use Security' property of a menu module to 'Yes', the form enforces security. After setting the 'Use Security' property to 'Yes', you can use 'Module Roles' property to construct the entire list of roles with access to that menu module.
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I believe Oracle Form is the best tool to develop Database Application in Oracle Database. The weakness I see in Oracle Forms 10g may be its deployment as Java Applet. Java Applets are to be downloaded in the client browser, that's why it's not lightweight as PHP/ ASP/JSP scripting technology. So as a true web application it is not really handy.
Oracle provides JDeveloper/ Apex to accomplish that. But JDeveloper is very complicated to understand and Apex is rigid and you have little freedom on your user interface design, you cannot design a page as freely as you do in Adobe Dreamweaver for PHP. We as Form developer want oracle to develop a new development tool with following features:
1. Language will be PL/SQL.
2. There will be simple drag and drop interface design.
3. It will generate HTML/JSP page so that it can be light weight.
4. Provide a wide range of packages to accomplish javascripts/ajax while using PL/SQL language. Developer will just know what to do and by what technology javascripts/ajax, and accordingly invoke packages from withing PL/SQL editors.
5. Will have good old simple look in Form Development (JDeveloper is so complex and Apex is so shy in revealing it's features) while having same even better inner strength of developments.
6. Will require no client side tool like jinitiator or jre
7. Better and easy or even no use of web_util package but still accomplish file/image/spreadsheet access
Bye
Hasan Al Mamun
Edited by: hasan_al_mamun on Mar 20, 2010 7:31 PM
Edited by: hasan_al_mamun on Mar 22, 2010 10:51 PM
Edited by: hasan_al_mamun on Mar 22, 2010 10:53 PM

Hasan,
There is a dedicated thread for that:
What new features would you want to see in Oracle Forms?
Francois

To Learn Oracle Forms Development

Dear all Oracle Developer.
I am a .Net Developer. Basically working asp.net, c#, Sql Server for 2 years.
From Begening, i had interest on Oracle and Java . But Now working at .Net Platform.
So, Now i want to learn Oracle Forms in home.. although, i learned 10 g database with Oracle University tutorial.. But how i
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any one provide me suggession to learn oracle in Sort time. so i can to work Project..
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Calling BO XI Release 2 from Oracle Forms 10g

Post Author: alexre
CA Forum: Integrated Solutions
Hello everybody,
We are going to migrate the Oracle Database and the Oracle forms application to 10g to one of our clients but he wants continue using the BO so he is going to migrate BO v 4.1.6 to XI Release 2.
Because I am not a BO specialist I would like to know
Is it possible to publish the BO report on the WEB?
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Alex,
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Problem Description:
I'm following the steps as per the doc:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/forms/htdocs/10gr2/howto/webservicefromforms/ws_10_1_3_from_forms.html
to create a java stub to call external web service and then use java importer in oracle forms to call this web service from oracle forms.
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The service was developed by us.
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jo ora_java.jobject;
xo ora_java.jobject;
rv varchar2(2000);
ex ora_java.jobject;
str varchar2(100);
BEGIN
jo := GendServiceClient.new;
rv := GendServiceClient.sendHello('Nora');
EXCEPTION
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message('Unable to call out to Java, ' ||ORA_JAVA.LAST_ERROR);
WHEN ORA_JAVA.EXCEPTION_THROWN then
ex := ORA_JAVA.LAST_EXCEPTION;
message(Exception_.toString(ex));
END;
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Calling web service from oracle forms fails with ORA_JAVA.JAVA_ERROR

Problem Description:
I'm following the steps as per the doc:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/forms/htdocs/10gr2/howto/webservicefromforms/ws_10_1_3_from_forms.html
to create a java stub to call external web service and then use java importer in oracle forms to call this web service from oracle forms.
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jo ora_java.jobject;
rv ora_java.jobject;
ex ora_java.jobject;
outString varchar2(2000);
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rv:= CurrencyConvertorStub.ConversionRate(jo,'CAD','USD');
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EXCEPTION
WHEN ORA_JAVA.JAVA_ERROR then
message('Unable to call out to Java, ' ||ORA_JAVA.LAST_ERROR);
WHEN ORA_JAVA.EXCEPTION_THROWN then
ex := ORA_JAVA.LAST_EXCEPTION;
outString := Exception_.toString(ex);
message(outString);
END;
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Yes, it is the message line - so basically this call fails => rv:= CurrencyConvertorStub.ConversionRate(jo,'CAD','USD'); and control goes in the exception block
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I am using list item in oracle forms 6i and facing one problem. I am populating list using following built-in.
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Oracle Forms Designer has encountered a problem and needs to close

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I got the following error when I compile the form,
Oracle Forms Designer has encountered a problem and needs to close
I am using Oracle 10g Developer suite(Forms 32 Bit Version 10.1.2.0.2)
and Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.3.0
and Window Xp Professional 32 Bit Operating system
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I searched lot of oracle forums .but i can't solve it.
Please give me one solution
I am strugling this issue.
Please help me........
a lot of thanks in advance.
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Fazil

Hi,
I am doing the bug fixing in the existing form.Its size is 4.07 MB.when i will get the mentioned error.then i will take previos fmb.then again doing the changes after some time agin will come the mention error.I added some if else condtion code.Its a small code.I think its not a reason for the mentioned error.I think something is happended.I don't know what happened?
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Unable to do UPDATE in Oracle Form 10.1.2

Hi,
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Below are two examples...
1. If we have a where clause with LIKE would that NOT use the index?
Example: ColumnName like :block.Column||%
2. How about having an OR clause?
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Hi
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In this example index on ColumnName
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