Aspect Ratio HDV clip from FCP to After Effects

Can someone help me with exporting from FCP an HDV clip to After Effects? What I am doing is trying to export an HDV clip from FCP to AE but when I import it into AE the aspect ratio is all off. I have an HDV 1080i50 easy setup timeline and I am exporting from that as a quicktime movie (not conversion) with the current settings. When I bring that into AE I have a HDV comp set up and I drop the FCP movie into that comp. My FCP movie is 1920 X 1080 and is bigger thant the AE HDV Comp. Why? Shouldn't the sizes be the same since they are HDV? Please help
Tim

HDV is 1440 x 1080 native so if you have output from FCP that is 1920 x 1080 it is being misinterpreted by AFX.
Try creating a new comp in AFX using the HDV easy setup but set the frame size to 1920 x 1080 manually and see what that does.

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