Aspect ratio of NTSC monitor display

We're working on a FCP 4.5 project that's shot 16:9, and displays with the correct widescreen aspect in the canvas window (so long as pixels are displayed square). However, when I run mirrored video through a Sony DSR11 deck to an NTSC monitor, the picture appears stretched vertically (to fill the screen). How can I correct the aspect of the display in the monitor?
Thanks
Matt Clifton

If I read right the poster is working anamorphic and wants to monitor it properly. Anything that creates a letterboxed display on 4:3 (including a deck conversion will not be monitoring the true signal. It will be a downrezzed and substantially mashed version.
If you need to truly monitor anamorphic output, just "anamorph" the monitor - see above.

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I have read this post over and over and there are some strange things going on with analyzing media now. I am absolutely sure that my HD footage (from a Z1U) used to be read by QT at 1440x1080 (1920x1080). Actual pixels were 1440x1080, a 4x3 aspect ratio, but displayed at 1920x1080. Used to be, like I said. I recently upgraded to OS 10.6.4, and QT 10 is quite a bit different. (In fact, other that the new skin, I haven't found any new features I like. Beside the point.) Now I get a QT readout like yours: 1440x1080 (1888x1062). A 4x3 capture aspect ratio and a 16x9 display aspect ratio, but not the same numbers. This can't be right--by law one of them has to be incorrect. I suspect the new version of QT. The same clip in FCP is read as as 1440x1080 with the HDV pixel aspect ratio (Edit --> Item Properties --> Format.) Furthermore, the readout from MediInfo Mac (endorsed by Apple) is even stranger: 1416x1062, a 4x3 aspect ratio, betraying yet another suspect data output. May be MediaInfo is correct, maybe not. I suspect no--my gut says FCP is correct, since it was once matched by QT. So, three analyzations and three results. The only conclusion is one or more of the analyzers is incorrect.
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I don't understand why there would be mixed resolutions if I shot everything the same. There was originally a 3:2 pulldown but I removed it prior to sending to Color.
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