Aspect Ratio options - why locked out?

I have a DV project shot in anamorphic widescreen, so (as I understand it) it's 720x480 with non-square pixels. It's in Avid Xpress Pro HD. Of course this footage appears vertically stretched on a standard TV so I want to burn a DVD that will automatically letterbox the image on a standard TV.
After importing to Encore (using QT .mov files for the moment) the footage is obviously not being treated as 'widescreen' and the resulting DVD is not letterboxed - it's stretched vertically. My first attempt was to 'specify the screen aspect ratio' of that asset as the user's guide describes: selecting the asset, using File > Interpret Footage. But this is grayed out in the File menu!
Next I tried to put the clip into the timeline and change the timeline's aspect ratio (in the properties pane, there are radio controls for 4:3 and 16:9). But these options are grayed out also!
Looking at the clip while editing transcode presets, Encore seems to know that the footage should be widescreen... When the 'Source' tab is selected, it's vertically stretched. When the 'Output' tab is selected, there is letterboxing visible, and when selecting '1:1 Pixel Preview' the footage gets even more vertically compressed and looks fine. So why doesn't this work later in the process? Thanks if anyone can help.
-nate

I've run axcross this one recently with MOV files from FCP as well.
Load the exported MOV file up into Premiere and it tells me the PAR is 0.9, which is wrong.
This was with a 10 bit uncompressed Blackmagic encode, and even in QT Pro it still displayed vertically stretched.
I solved the problem by encoding to MPEG-2 out of CCE SP and setting the export flag to 16:9.
When imported into Encore "As Is", you cannot get this to work.
Alternatives:
1 - Encode to MPEG-2 externally, as long as the MPEG encoder understands the Mac format video file.
2 - Re-encode the file from Premiere Pro.
Import into PPro, and interpret the footage to the correct PAR, then export out as an uncompressed AVI file if you wish to avoid a DV codec, or else export out of PPro as an MPEG-2 clip - but do not forget to interpret the footagefirst, or all you will get is a vertically stretched clip with black bars either side.
Macs?
Don't get me started.

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