Aspect Ratio - rotate 90 degrees

I've got an image with a 3X2 aspect ratio. I'd like to make it a 2X3 aspect ratio. But I can't seem to rotate the image enough to do that, and if I type in 2X3 Lightroom cleverly "fixes" it to 3X2.
How do I invert the crop aspect ratio?
Thanks,
Andrew

Page 81ff of the LR Users Guide describes cropping.
But here's something that may help with all of this. For a landscape crop ratio--if you grab a corner crop handle and move the mouse vertically, the landscape aspect ratio is maintained as you move the mouse. But if you move the mouse horizontally, the orientation "flips" after moving a short distance. The converse is true for a portrait oriented crop ratio. And if you grab a "mid-point" crop handle, then the aspect ratio never flips orientation as you resize.
As indicated in the manual, if you want to lock the current aspect orientation while resizing, hold down the shift key before and while moving the mouse.
With a little practice it becomes easy, and you can even figure out where to grab the crop frame to minimize the relocation of the image afterwords.

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I'm reluctant to purchase Quicktime Pro until I know the answer to this question and Apple Support doesn't seem to have anyway to ask, so I thought I'd try this group.
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Can anyone tell me if this is still true with QT Pro, or if there are other solutions for resolving this outside of QT Pro?? I have tried a number of other converters, and found one that rotates, but aspect ratio not retained.
As indicated above, the file plays correctly for me in various media players and all media "Inspector" windows, including other third party media information utilities, confirm the correct dimensions and aspect ratio as displayed. As to AVI conversion, I test converted the uploaded file to AVI (DivX5/MP3) at original dimensions using VisualHub. (Also tried the VideoMonkey AVI encode but it limited the source 720p file to a 720x480 output and I did not know if you were agreeable to such a restriction.) Suggest you run similar tests with your preferred Windows converters to confirm/refute results on your system.

What is the fix for constarined crop aspect ratio changing when the image is rotated

I've migrated through LR 3, 4 and now 5 up to 5.4. I have been able to set a crop aspect ratio and synch pictures to that ratio as well as other editing selections. When I edit a particular picture and rotate it , the aspect ratio has stayed constant - to the value originally selected.I've never had a problem and it has consistantly worked properly even through last weeks editing activities. Now, when I set aspect ratio and then rotate, the aspect ratio really changes. If I go back and reset aspect ratio and select Done, it seems to be ok. This issue seems to perform wrong with portrait orientation but not in the landscape orientation. I have uninstalled LR, gone through registry cleanup, reinstalled LR, claened up the registry but nothing gets better. I do note that the settings aren't totally removed as the reinstalled software wants to pick up where I left it prior to uninstalling. As best as I can tell, all of my settings and preferences are the same as last week. It works on last weeks folders but not on new ones.
I have now seen many forum write-ups about this problem but have never found any solution. Help - I can't go through life cropping and straightening images sideways.

Here is a thread that I think addresses this problem. There were MULTIPLE bugs in the crop tool when Lr5.0 came out, probably due to adding the Upright Tool, but they are slowly getting worked out. Maybe this one will be fixed in Lr 5.5
http://forums.adobe.com/message/6218903#6218903

HT1338 I have a problem with the aspect ratio of photos as they appear on iPhoto. They are not correct. On the original photo people were fat and squat. I tried rotating and they became long and narrow. Neither correct.

I have a problem with the aspect ratio of photos as they appear on iPhoto. They are not correct. On the original photo people were fat and squat. I tried rotating and they became long and narrow. Neither correct. Any suggestions?

Sounds more like a problem with your Display Resolution than iPhoto.
Go to: Apple / System Preferences / Displays and in the Resolutions list select,
1280 x 800 if you have a 13" MacBook Pro
1400 x 900 if you have a 15" MacBook Pro
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The aspect ratio setting of portrait, landscape, or auto, controls what orientation the app opens up in. Most times you would choose portrait or landscape, but in doing so you’re saying that the app only uses that ratio. If you have an app that is both portrait and landscape, then auto might make sense. You would also want to include all of the possible splash screens, not just the portrait or landscape ones.
Auto orient controls whether the app will rotate around when the user turns the device 90 or 180 degrees. For iOS apps you would most likely want that to be on, because it’s a requirement for the iTunes store. But, as an alternative you can have it set to be off, then change that at runtime to be on at the right times. One example use case would be if part of the game play involves using the accelerometer, you wouldn’t want the screen to rotate on the user while playing that part of the game.

56HM195 - "Auto Aspect Ratio" feature

I've just picked up a used Toshiba 56HM195. It has a "Auto Aspect Ratio" feature (page 74 of the owner's manual), which when enabled should display windowboxed (black bars on all four sides) 4:3 images in "TheaterWide 2" display mode, which zooms in to eliminate the windowboxing.
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Thanks,
Greg

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When I try to use pre-defined or user-defined crop aspect ratios, e.g., 5x7, on a picture in portrait mode, the crop always goes into landscape mode. This makes no sense; PS doesn't do that.
As an interim solution I have been rotating my portrait pictures 90 degrees into landscape orientation just to get the cropping done, and then rotating them back to portrait, but my neck is beginning to hurt. What is the correct method for cropping in portrait mode using pre-defined aspect ratios?

The method I use is to set the ratio, then do not drag from the corner; plop the crop tool inside the edges and draw as you would in PS. Then adjust via edges, corners, etc.

Video support: resolution, portrait mode and aspect ratio

I have been playing with a friend's PowerPC-based mini (while I wait for Leopard to come out) and have some pre-purchase questions:
1) Do the current Core 2 Duo mac mini models support the VESA standard Preset Timing Mode of 1680 x 1050? (That's not listed on his older mac mini and would affect my choice of monitor.)
2) Does the current mac mini support portrait mode with any monitor at all?
3) The specs list maximum resolutions of 1920 x 1200 (16:10) with DVI and 1920 x 1080 (16:9) with VGA. I'm guessing that is related to bandwidth of the cable and does not mean that all output to DVI would be at the 16:10 aspect ratio and all output to VGA would be at the 16:9.

mexibeetle,
As far as the resolution of 1680x1050 I cannot answer you. I have a Power PC mini as well as an intel mini. The resolutions available change based on the display connected, but neither of mine offer that particular resolution (the 17" monitor I have does not go that high on the PPC mini via VGA and the intel mini is hooked up to a 40" LCD TV via HDMI...those resolutions are either 1600x900 or 1920x1080)
Neither my monitor nor my HDTV list that particular resolution (1680x1050) as being available, regardless of what they are connected to, so I cannot say whether or not the mini is capable of driving a screen at that resolution.
As to portrait mode, on both the older and newer minis in the display preference pane there is the option to rotate your image...90, 180 and 270 degrees. Mounting your monitor horizontal or vertical should not pose any problem as far as I can see.

How do I restore all images in a collection to original imported aspect ratio?

Typically I select all images in a catalog, resize the first image to 640x480. I then right click on the first image (all images are still selected) click on Develop Settings, Sync and choose to sync only the aspect ratio. All images are then cropped to 640x480 like the first image, which I then export to a folder.
I then need to restore all images to the original aspect ratio for building a slideshow to export to my website. I've followed the same procedure i.e. selected all images, click on the first image, change aspect to original, right click on first image and sync aspect ratio for all images.
The problem is that the rest of the images do not return to their original aspect ratio but revert to 4x6 aspect ratio instead of the original size when imported. I've changed the lock to unlocked and tried both but still no result. Now I have to select each image individually, open the crop dialog and choose custom to get it back to the imported aspect ratio.
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Rotating an image is adjusting its crop rotation and crop size. You originally said you wanted things back to import state which presumably was full resolution w/o any adjustments to ratio, size, or rotation. If you are wanting to do things in the middle of your other processing I'm less sure what to tell you.
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Are you having an issue because you want to fiddle with the crop in the middle of other processing every time, or is this a special case because you've moved on in your processing after asking your question some time ago?
If you routinely need to do this, an easier way might be to export the images at the 3:2 crop, then reimport those JPGs, change the crop on those JPGs, only, then re-export them a second time, and be done with them. This sounds like you're making proofs?
If you are making proof-sized images at a different ratio? Why not just export the 3:2 images at a smallish size, perhaps with a watermark and not have to worry about making them 4:3 ratio?
Another alternative would be to print the images to JPGs instead of a printer, and set the paper size to a 4:3 ratio and turn on the Fill option--which will chop of the long sides automatically as it prints them.

Cannot get 16 X 9 aspect ratio on NTSC monitor

Just installed a Radeon 9800 pro Mac edition to replace the original GeForce 5200 that came with the computer. The new card is great and gives 30 fps on the main LaCie electron blue 19" monitor when "Full screen" mode is selected. Problem is ... when I select "External video" regardless of the option selected under "Preferences" in "Output" the framerate drops to 6 or 7 fps. The image on the Sony PVM monitor always shows in a stretched 4 X 3 aspect ratio with letterboxing all around it, top, bottom and sides regardless of what option I select in the ATI preferences on the Mac2TV panel. Now when I drag the viewing window from the main monitor to the External Sony PVM monitor and select "Full screen",(external video turned off) the aspect ratio remains in 16 X 9 with an acceptable frame rate.
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A solution for "Video output"
When sending an FCP 5.1.1 HDV sequence to "Motion project", it sends it at 1440 x 1080 and Motion 2.1.1 will open a new project to that size. Once that FCP HDV sequence is opened in Motion 2.1.1 and "Full screen mode" is selected it will play to a full screen in 16 x 9 at 30 fps on the "Main Computer Monitor". In this case the main monitor is a LaCie Electron blue 19". Now if "External video" is selected that being a Sony PVM 1351Q the image will show as a 1440 x 1080 and play at only 5 fps. Furthermore it will create a letterbox on all four sides. (looks like a stretched vertical 4 x 3). Now if a new project is opened in Motion 2.1.1 in HD (1920 x1080) and the same HDV QT file is imported in Motion ; the same procedure repeated, the image will play at a proper size and the 16 x 9 aspect ratio on the secondary NTSC Monitor will be respected, mind you it will still play at only 5 fps.
"SOLUTION"
By canceling the "Video output" on Motion, a full frame 16 x 9 image can be viewed on the "Main Monitor". By the way, that image is astonishing compared to what it was with the previous video card. Now by dragging the "Viewer image" above the timeline to the "Secondary Monitor (Sony)" and selecting the "Full Screen Mode" it will then give a proper full screen image with a 16 x 9 aspect ratio on the Sony PVM 1351Q at 30 fps. The image seen on the NTSC monitors when using FCP 5.1.1 in HDV has also improved to a great degree. It has improved to the point where the Radeon® 9800 Pro Mac® Edition 256MB AGP becomes an interesting solution for HDV editing in Final Cut Studio.
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1.3 not respecting the aspect ratio set: new bug?

I import a lot of scanned images, crop and straighten them and set a new aspect.
I work with: Pentium 4, Windows, 1200x1600 monitor (portrait).
I noticed with 1.3 what never happened to me with 1.2, as follows:
a. select an image in Develop
b. select crop overlay
c. select 2:3 aspect
d. straigthen the image (as example, by 1,00)
e. drag one of the corners, reducing the image size
f. the dragged corner 'jumps' a little and the gets reduced, visually showing a different aspect. Check the cropped dimensions and realise that the aspect is really not anymore 2:3. But 2:3 is shown selected!
What I do to counteract this, is selecting again 2:3 aspect, then the aspect is corrected, but the corners change how I did not intend.
I finally move the corners again and I crop as I will with the 2:3 aspect unchanged.
Does this happen to anyone else?
I consider this a quite annoying bug, am I right?
Thanks
Stefano

Thanks Steve,
I appreciate a lot, that you tried to reproduce the behaviour of Lightroom 1.3 on my PC, which runs Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2.
Well, it looks it happens just to me...
Anyway, if an Adobe technician reads that, here is what I see, mentioning a specific case:
- tiff imported image
size 7598x5082
- go to Develop page
- select Crop overlay
it shows locked aspect ratio
it shows Aspect: Original
- select Aspect: 2x3
size becomes 7598x5065 (I read that, moving the mouse over the thumb in the bottom panel)
- rotate the image by entering 1 in Straighten
the size becomes 7430x4953
- drag one (anyone) corner reducing the image size
while dragging, the dragged corner visibly 'jumps' increasing the reduction
- as example, the size is then 7350x4717 (not any more 2x3)
but it always shows Aspect: 2x3 !!!
The consequence of this behaviour is that after every rotating and resizing the set aspect ratio gets lost, even if otherwise stated by the shown aspect value.
I am then obliged to apply the Aspect: 2x3 again, which works, but which changes the position of the corners, therefore forcing me to set them again as I liked.
Perhaps what I wrote might be useful for Adobe people to correct this in a next version.
Thanks!
Stefano

Aspect Ratio is Officially Jacked Up

Forum,
I read some other threads on this similar problem, but this one seems like even more of a maze than some other stuff I've come across. So any help would be greatly appreciated!
I exported my entire rendered HDV,24p, ProRes 422 sequence back to FCP from Color. Some of it has maintained the same aspect ratio and some of it is now an entirely different ratio. Could this have anything to do with my latest QT 7.5 update? I'm sorry if this post is looks similar to others, but judging from the posts I've been reading, the project settings and media formats seem to be the crux of the matter.
With that being said, it would probably take me forever to find someone with the identical problem that I'm facing.
The craft of editing is such a whacked up mess, yet we all love it!
Von

JPo,
I don't understand why there would be mixed resolutions if I shot everything the same. There was originally a 3:2 pulldown but I removed it prior to sending to Color.
Under Item Properties>Format, all of my clips are labeled as 1920x1080 despite all the different aspect ratios that are being displayed from clip to clip.
My suspicion is that it has something to do with the geometry room because I wrote in a previous thread about a problem with aspect ratios changing while I was in Color. The advice given to me at the time was not to do any scaling or rotating in Geometry, but make those changes in Color.
So, I made sure to reset all of my geometrical changes back to there original state. Although the issue with different aspect ratios (in Color and FCP both) was not fixed.
I think what I might have to do is send a copy of the original ungraded project to Color and regrade the whole thing minus any scaling or rotating. What do you think about this plan?
P.S. I'm thinking that using Geometry for user shapes in conjunction with the secondaries room should be okay just as long as there's no scaling or rotating. What do you think?
Thanks for helping me as my project has come a long way and I just can't wait to knock this grading out!
Trey

Mixed aspect ratio project -- best setting in iMovie

I am creating a new family project in iMovie (8.0.6) -- a "through the years" compilation of video clips. The older clips were shot in 4:3 on miniDV tape; the more recent material was shot in 16:9 HD flash memory.
What aspect ratio should I choose when creating my new project for the best results? I will probably output to DVD and view on HDTV. Thanks for any advice, Jeff.

I would use 16:9 for your project.
Then, for your 4:3 clips, open the inspector to the Rotate, Crop, Ken Burns tab and select "Fit".
This will give you letterboxing on the 4:3.

Aspect ratio suddenly changes in LR develop window without user interaction

I imported some Nikon NEF images with sidecar JPEGs using NikonView/NikonTransfer (rotate image turned on). Afterwards I imported the images into Lightroom (copy to new locacation). The LR option "treat JPEG files next to RAW files as seperate" is turned off.
I can see every image with correct orientation in the Lightroom Library.
But for 2 images when I switch to LR Develop the aspect ratio suddenly changes in film strip and large image display. The image is a 2:3 image but in Develop window it is shown as 3:2 image (not rotated but errorneously shrinked/stretched). That is really strange. I did nothing else than switching between Library and Develop! No rotation, no crop, nothing.
I can toggle between Library and Develop window: The image is shown 2:3 in Library and 3:2 in Develop.
This behaviour occurs for 2 images, not for all images.

For some reason it just started to work now. Have no idea what didn't work before.

CS4 aspect ratios

I've read the AE CS4 Help, I've watched Chris Meyer's video on lynda.com, and I have questions about the new aspect ratios issue.
Like many, I like to design in a square pixel environment. Let's say I want to create an image with a perfect circle in Photoshop, bring that into AE, then output it. Before, I would have created a 720x540 square pixel image in Photoshop, made my circle, imported that into AE, put it into a 720x540 square pixel comp, done whatever I was going to do in AE, then dragged that comp into an NTSC DV comp (720x480, non-square pixels), hit Command-Option-F to size my nested comp to the new one, and then output the new comp. Would this NOT result in a perfectly round circle on TV?
Should I instead have followed the above process, but substituted "534" for "540" in Photoshop and AE? Would THAT ultimately have resulted in a perfectly round circle on TV?
Thanks --
Galen

You're over thinking. It makes no difference what the PAR settings are in your comp as long as the footage is interpreted correctly. If you stick with square pixels in Photoshop and AE interprets the footage as square pixels then no matter what kind of comp you insert the image in, the circle will not be distorted. You can check this by rotating the circle. If it does not wobble then it's round.
What this means is that you can drag any square pixel image or comp into a DV (720X480) normal or widescreen comp and it will be round. Where you are going wrong is using the fit command. This is a dangerous option because it scales X and Y differently distorting the image. Unless you intentionally want to distort an image the X and Y scale values must be identical.
If you want to make your 720 X 540 square pixel image or comp fill a 720 X 480 frame then you'll have to use the fit horizontally shortcut. That is Cmnd/Ctrl + Alt/Option + h so that the X and Y values are identical.
If you're doing this with video then you must have separated fields or you must shift the image down 1 pixel to avoid field reversal.
Again, AE, CS3 and CS4 will perfectly blend, mix, and combine footage and comps with any pixel aspect ratio without distortion as long as you properly interpret the footage. AE will assume that footage created at standard non square pixel frame sizes like 720 X 480 is rectangular pixels. If you did not specifically create or render your images to this size with non-square pixels then AE is going to be wrong and you'll have to change the PAR to square pixels.
If you're having problems the first thing to check is the X and Y scale values. They must be equal.

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