Aspect ratio-wide vs 4x3?

If you have a new camcorder than captures in widescreen 16x9, but offer's the alternative of 4x3, what happens when -- if you capture a short sequence in 16x9, then switch to 4x3 and capture a second sequence -- you import those two sequence into Final Cut?
Hal

EDIT: Sorry all ... guess I got lost again! the post below refers to FCP not FCE. Apologies if the answer is not valid for FCE.
FCP has no problem with handling footage shot as either 4:3 or 16:9,
You just need to edit in a matching sequence ... or if you need to use both formats in the same timeline, then you just have to decide which you want to be the final format.
if you place a 16:9 clip in a 4:3 sequence then you will get a "letterbox" image in the canvas, with the 16:9 clip sandwiched between two horizontal black bars, one at the top and one at the bottom... conversely, if you place a 4:3 clip in a 16:9 sequence then you will get a "pillarbox" image in the canvas, with the 4:3 clip sandwiched between two vertical black bars, one on the left and one on the right.
you can then use the motion properties of the clip to scale and position the clip according to your needs.

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Your resolution is 720x576 regardless of whether it
is 4:3 or 16:9. That's the native resolution for PAL
DV/DVD, and other metadata are used to determine
whether it is 4:3 or 16:9. If the clip is 4:3 then
it should display at 768x576; if it is 16:9 it should
display at 1024x576. See, the native pixel count is
actually narrower (in your case) than 4:3 (for me
it's actually wider). So if you look at an
anamorphic clip, it will be squeezed into the 720x576
narrower-than-4:3 window. But that's OK. All of the
data is there; it will be stretched back out when you
play back from a DVD. If you are going to a DVD, you
don't really care if the data files play back
stretched or squeezed or whatever on the computer, so
long as they get encoded correctly and behave
correctly for the DVD.
The Anamorphicizer doesn't do any conversion to your
file; all it does is to add something to the
QuickTime container so that iDVD will identify the
clip as widescreen (since iDVD doesn't give you an
option to do that yourself). I suspect that it just
adds the "wide" atom to the end of the file, but I
don't know that for certain. In any case, the movie
data itself is not changed, and I wouldn't consider
that to be any kind of "conversion". So don't worry
about recompression or anything like that from using
Anamorphicizer.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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