Asset budgeting through Statistical WBS
Dear Experts,
I have configured and assigned Statistical WBS to Asset to carry out active budgeting. To my knowledge I have configured all relevant configuration but when I create PR over this Asset, WBS field is not updated in the PR and therefore no commitment / budget check is performed.
However, in this same scenario I created internal order and assigned it to WBS. Here then I assigned the Internal Order to the Asset. Budget check in this case runs fine.
As you may see from figure above B-OA01-001-001 is assigned to an Internal Order where it correctly carry out commitment / budget check when I create PR against Asset with Internal Order as Investment Account Assignment. Also it displays Internal Order number along with Asset number in PR account assignment tab.
But when I assign WBS directly to an Asset in origin tab of Asset Master no budget check is carried out while creating PR. Also WBS field is also not updated in PR account assignment tab with Asset.
Note: Budget in both cases is assigned to WBS element.
Regards,
Saif
Salaam Saif!!
You need to do settings in T code ACSET... You must assign WBS Element in ACSET against APC postings
Refer below
Incase you dont find these in dropdown list in ACSET, activate them in ORFA > Integration with the General Ledger> Additional Account Assignment Objects > Activate Account Assignment Objects
Br. Ajay M
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Please read note 21583 and 684659!
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Blaz -
Availability control on statistical WBS element
Hi everybody,
The issue deals with <i><b>availability control on statistical WBS element</b></i>.
<u>Part 1</u> : I released 25000 as budget (CJ32) for a <b>statistical WBS element</b>.
Availability control is active for this WBS element.
We made a good receipt (MIGO) for 20000 on an AUC (asset under
construction) - so we get the value as statistical value on the WBS
element -, then invoice verification (MIRO) and finally the asset
transfer (ABUMN) from asset under construction to fixed asset.
On this statistical WBS element we get +20000 (MIRO) and -20000 (ABUMN).
The problem is that the amount that is used for the availability check
is 0, instead of 20000 as you can check !!!
We set a budget on the statistical WBS element in order to have the
availability check ... and this is not working as the system in the described case shows 25000 as available but for me we should have only 5000 (= 25000 - 20000).
<u>Part 2</u> : This is working perfectly (I get the expected value for available) when we use a <b>"real" WBS element</b>, put an expense on it, then run the period end closing tranction CJ88 in order to transfer the cost on an AUC, and finally run CJ88 again in order to transfer from AUC to fixed asset.
Did anybody already encountered this problem with statistical WBS element ? How did you solve this (we would like to keep our statistical WBS element) ?
Thanks in advance for your help.
BenjaminHi Benjamin,
Pl go through the link below :
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/3e/a98337dd34ca76e10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
I have not faced this but as far as I remeber for AUC Statistical assignments have some limitations.
Any specicfic reason for keeping the WBS Statistical? Are you able to see "0" zero on this WBS in CN41.
Regards,
Sudhanshu
PS: Assign points as a way to say thanks.
Cheers,
Sudhanshu -
Hi,
When im procuring asset by using a Statistical WBS in PO ,whether commitment will generate.
RegardsYes, system automatically will create statistical commitment on the project when you create purchase orders for asset.
Refer link for details:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/4f/71e156448011d189f00000e81ddfac/content.htm
The concept of Budget Monitoring depends on creation of commitments
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Sreenivas -
No Error when Statistical WBS is closed
Hi,
I had created Statistical WBS elements and assigned this to Maintenance orders, System allows me to close the WBS element even when the Orders are open and also allows me to assign & issue materials without checking the budget ( as the WBS is already closed).
How system allows closure of WBS when this WBS element is assigned to some orders which are still open ? Is there any user exit available to prevent this ?
thanks in advance.
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VinodhHi Vindoh,
The reason being your WBS is statistical. Statistical WBS are only meant for statistical postings. You cannot settle them or carry overhead. Just try to maintain settlement rule on statistical WBS and you will get the following message
Statistical WBS element: No surcharges, settlement etc. N-000298
Message no. CJ714
Diagnosis
A statistical WBS element cannot be settled, nor carry overheads, nor
can results analysis be carried out for it. Therefore it does not mak
sense to maintain control parameters for these functions for statisti
WBS elements.
System Response
If you have identified the WBS element as statistical, these control
parameters will not be displayed in the work breakdown structure.
The real cost objects are Cctr or Orders. They are only meant for reporing or exercising budgetory controls mainly during Asset procurement.
Thanks
Sarang -
Settlement to cost center posted for statistical WBS element
We have the following scenario
Statistical WBS elements with assigned Cost center posted for actual postings
Network assigned to statistical WBSE and settlement rule on the same WBSE
On settlement run CJ88 the network costs are transferred from network to Cost Center posted in the WBSE.
Issue:
While analysing the active availability control the assigned value is doubled. This happens only of the networks are settled. System considers the Actual values from network + Statistical value from WBSE to caculate the assigned values.
Simulation details as under.
SP-SET-02-3 (wbs element)
COSS 2011 11 0007101000 0001240704 KOAO D INR 100.00 INR
NWA 500000002408 0010
COSS 2011 04 0007101000 0001240704 KOAO O INR 100.00- INR S -- does not contribute to assigned value
COSP 2011 04 0007101000 0001240704 COIN D INR 100.00 INR
COSP 2011 01 0007101000 0001240704 KPPP D INR 100.00 INR M -- does not contribute to assigned value
Hence the assigned value gets doubled and eating up the budget.
Anyone encountered similar issues pls share the possible solutions.Hi Mohit
It is against SCN's rules to post the same discussion thread twice. You have already posted a similar question in the below thread. Please refrain from doing this and close one of the threads.
Initial balance upload of revenue GL accounts with wbs
Regards
Sowmya -
No costs visible statistical WBS element
Hi,
The followin steps are the setup:
- Project with a statistical WBS element and a network below
- Create a PO with Account category "Fixed Asset"
- Fill in a fixed asset, but also a (statistical) WBS element (put fields 'project' and 'network' optional in customizing)
- execute a MIGO to book costs
Now when I run the cost report for this project using transaction CJI3 then I do NOT get the costs visible on this statistical WBS element.
HOWEVER when I do the same steps, but instead of putting a statistical WBS element I put the network (next to the fixed asset) then I do get the costs visible.
Is this normal or do I have to change something in order to get the costs visible for my statistical WBS element?
kindest regards
bertIt is normal
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No costs visible for statistical WBS element
Hi,
The followin steps are the setup:
- Project with a statistical WBS element and a network below
- Create a PO with Account category "Fixed Asset"
- Fill in a fixed asset, but also a (statistical) WBS element (put field 'project' optional in customizing)
- execute a MIGO to book costs
Now when I run the cost report for this project using transaction CJI3 then I do NOT get the costs visible on this statistical WBS element.
HOWEVER when I do the same steps, but instead of putting a statistical WBS element I put the network (next to the fixed asset) then I do get the costs visible.
Is this normal or do I have to change something in order to get the costs visible for my statistical WBS element?
kindest regards
bertIs this necessary?
Because in the end I want to book these costs as actual costs on my fixed asset...
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