Asset Legacy depreciation adjustment within useful life

Asset depreciation is being calculated on the useful life of the asset.
I am using replacement value (03) as the base value of calculating depreciation, when i am transferring legacy data of the asset, if there is a difference in the accumulated depreciation the system does not adjust it within the useful life of the asset.
If i check the indicator calculate depreciation after useful it will write off the asset completely but not in the assets useful life.
In case of new assets it is adjusting within the useful life of the asset, but not for legacy assets.
Is the system behaving correctly?
Regards.

Well there is depreciation after end of useful life. But i have selected to post depreciation after usfeul life. My question is that the system should adjust the depreciation within the useful life and not extend its useful life.
It is adjusting it for new assets created but not for legacy assets.

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Asset master data no "Expired useful life".

Hi expert.
Today our user tell me ,system need her that to enter the filed (ANLC-NDABJ/NDABP) of * expired useful life in year /period * in depreciation area tab . otherwise not allow to save the data.
And i found, all of asset capitalized period on 2011.12 and the start depreciation period on :2012.01 ,the Expired useful life year/period is null and requirement to input the value.
when we enrty the expired useful period.
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Message no. AA910
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What's reason and how to fix it ?
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Hi,
Usually Expired life will be displayed in Asset master once the acquisition. If your capitalization date is in the previous fiscal year (in your case: 2011.12) and in the next period you will able to see asset expired period as 01 period(assume next fiscal year is starting from 2012-01).
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Change in Useful life of asset in mid year, but the previous posted depreciation should not be changed

Dear Experts,
I have a requirement in one of my client, We need to extend the useful life of asset in mid of an asset fiscal year and the depreciation which was posted in the previous should not be changed.
Requirement:
Useful life of asset is to be extended after completing depreciation for 4 years and in-between the current asset fiscal year. Provided the present asset value has to be taken as the new book value of the asset and the depreciation posted henceforth to be posted based on the new asset value till the remaining useful life.
Previously posted depreciation should be unchanged.
Analysis:
1.      The fiscal Year followed - October to September.
2.      The useful life of asset will be changed, and the depreciated value posted till 31/mar 2014 will have the old depreciation value ( based on the original acquisition value)
3.      The Depreciation key used in of type LINR (linear), depreciation value will be calculated based on the Book value till the asset value becomes ZERO at the end of useful life of the asset.
4.      We can change the useful life of the asset at the end of a Asset fiscal year say FY- 2014, if this is done the existing configuration will take the Book value of the asset at the end of the Fiscal as the asset value and the new depreciation will be calculated based on the new useful life of the asset. The asset value will become ZERO at the end of the newly changed Useful Life.
5.      But the requirement is that the useful life of the asset will be changed exactly half way in between existing Asset fiscal (i.e., 31/03/2014), if this is done system will change the depreciation value based on the new useful life ( since the Dep Key is LINR), but the depreciation value will change from the fiscal start say October 2013 to September 2014 ), which will not satisfy the requirement of the client. Since the depreciation which is already posted from October 2013 to March 2014 should not be changed.
Note:
1. We are not willing to retire the asset and create a new asset with the remaining book value as asset value and start depreciation.
Kindly let me know if the requirement can be fulfilled without retiring the asset.

Dear All,
This requirement has been completed.
1. I created New Multi level valuation method with base 26 ( Net book value w/o Revaluation ).
2. New depreciation key was created and the above method was assigned to it. I never changed the Base method.
3. new interval was created in the depreciation area, with this created dep key and extended the useful life of the asset. The depreciation was calculated according to the requirement.
Originally the asset had useful life of 5 Years, I changed the asset useful life to 8 years now with new Depreciation key 2001.
Depreciation was already posted to the asset till 04- 2013 for an amount of 148.27 SAR.
Net Book value carried forward to 2013 = 1575.56 SAR
Depreciation already posted till 4th period =   148.27 SAR
Current Net book value after useful life extension           = 1427.29 SAR .
Now the new depreciation key 2001 with Multilevel method 201, will take this Net-book value as Asset value and will depreciate along the useful life of the asset till it becomes zero.
Planned depreciation of 2013 ( remaining 6 months) = 166.24 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2014 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2015 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2016 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2017 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2018 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2019 = 131.25 SAR
Total      = 1427.29 SAR ( the Asset value becomes zero at the end of its remaining useful life.
The previously posted depreciation from 01.01.2013 to 30.04.2013 was untouched.

Correcting useful life of an asset in previous year

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Depriciation key and useful life periods in asset master should in display mode only

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When we click on Depreciation tab here the Depreciation key and use life fields are automatically come with Dep.key(ABC) and use life(15) (Because we maintained in OAYZ)
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Hi Anil,
The screen layout for Asset and its depreciation tab are different. You have to make these fields as Display only in the screen layout. This can be done using T-Code AO21. Below are the screenshots for the path and screen layout for your reference. This should solve your issue
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Increased useful life

Hi,
We made some repair costs to our building, and we decided to capitalize the repair costs to value of the building. Also we decided that repair works incresed/prolonged useful life of this building. We want that NBV and capitalised repair costs would depreciate during the remaining + prolonged periods, i.e.
Initialy useful life was 30 years, after 20 years when we made repair it was 10 years remaining, and we decided that repair prolongs useful life additional 5 years, so in total 15 years.
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Maybe I have described not so clear my problem. Because it is realy important for us I try to describe more detail:
According to our internal accounting principles of fixed assets, when
we made essential subsequent acquisition, e.g. we made repair works of
the roof of our building; we have to add those costs to initial
acquisition cost of the building, and to prolong useful life of the
building. And depreciation calculation must be calculated in this way:
Initial acquisition cost 1.000.000 monetary units (MU);
Initial useful life 40 years;
Monthly depreciation was: 1.000.000/40/12 = 2.083 MU;
After 20 years we made subsequent acquisition amounting to 200.000 MU
and prolonged useful life additionally 10 years.
So in our accounting books planned monthly depreciation after
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500.000 MU net book value at subsequent acquisition day = 1.000.000 /
20
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Recalculates depreciation of past 20 years and posts difference with
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417 * 20 * 12 = 100.000 MU
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2007/02     -2.222
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Posting like above are completely inconsistent with our internal
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Query regarding Useful Life

Hi SAP guru
I have one query regarding useful life of asset,
If i purchased a asset in rs 200000 , wdv rate is 20% and put the useful life 4 year, in last year i want to depreciate the asset upto 1 Rs.
Capitalisation date is 01.04.2008.
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2010 200,000.00                25,600.00-           102,400.00
2011   200,000.00               20,480.00-           81,920.00
2012 200,000.00                                          81,920.00
Client requirement is in year 2011 asset should depreciate upto Rs 1.
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when come to restricting value to 1Re. specify the memo value for that asset class.
AA>Valuation>Amt.specification>Specify memo value.

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I am trying to configure a deprecition key which depreciates the asset in the first month when there is no remainig life on the asset.
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Wrong depreciation calcualtion when we change useful life of an asset

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We change the useful life of an asset during the middle of the year. The deprecaiton calculation is not effecting correctly for the remaining useful life of an asset.
We are using stright line method of depreciaion. I will appreciate if any post some tips what is wrong .
Example:
Current State:
Acquisition value: 300,000
Acquisition date: 1/1/08
Useful life: 3 years
NBV 12/31/08: 200,000
NBV 6/30/09: 150,000
New life: 2 years, starting 7/1/2009
Current methodology:
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Monthly Depreciation expense between 8/31/09-12/31/09: $16,667 / month
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Requested methodology:
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We have some old legacy assets which is capitalized in 2010 and depreciating for the last 4 years, These old assets contain the value of several different assets and the usefull life of the old asset is 50 years, Now we need to segregate these old asset to different new assets , my process contains
1) Creating new assets with different asset class with different usefull life
2) Transfer the respective value from the main asset to the new assets
3) Adjustment of depreciation already posted.
Here i am facing some issues regarding the asset transfer , anybody suggest which is the best way to transfer the asset acquisition value to new assets ?
when i am using ABUMN to transfer the values , system posting depreciation value adjustment which is the alredy posted depreciation for the past 4 years with the usefull life as 50 years. Is there any methode to adjust these value ?
If i am posting Asset transfer with F-02 (with negative posting) , system will transfer the net book value and start the depreiation calculation based on the usefull life of the new asset. Here system is not considering the depreciation already posted.
Is it possible to make changes in the system where assets will consider the depreciation start date as 2010 (old asset depreciation start date), If i am manually changing the depreciation start date then system is calculating the depreciation start date as 1st period of the current year (because previous years are alredy closed),
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Is there any solution ?
Regards
San

Hi Ajay,
Case : We have an asset 1000, which contains a value of $ 100000, it was capitalizes in 2010 with usefull life of 50 years and past 4 years depreciating with 50 years usefull life, This is a legacy asset and contains the value of so mny different assets.
Now we need to create different assetd with different asset class and contains different usefull life, We need to transfer the value from Asset 1000 to these new created assets, here my concern is about the depreciation already posted to the asset 1000,
Assume my new assets value is $ 20000, i can transfer the value from asset 1000 to my new created asset. but here depreciation should be a problem because last 4 years depreciation is calculated as 20000 @ 50 years , but actual usefull life was 5 years.
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Regards
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Depreciation Adjustment While Asset Transfer

Hi,
We have some old legacy assets which is capitalized in 2010 and depreciating for the last 4 years, These old assets contain the value of several different assets and the usefull life of the old asset is 50 years, Now we need to segregate these old asset to different new assets , my process contains
1) Creating new assets with different asset class with different usefull life
2) Transfer the respective value from the main asset to the new assets
3) Adjustment of depreciation already posted.
Here i am facing some issues regarding the asset transfer , anybody suggest which is the best way to transfer the asset acquisition value to new assets ?
when i am using ABUMN to transfer the values , system posting depreciation value adjustment which is the alredy posted depreciation for the past 4 years with the usefull life as 50 years. Is there any methode to adjust these value ?
If i am posting Asset transfer with F-02 (with negative posting) , system will transfer the net book value and start the depreiation calculation based on the usefull life of the new asset. Here system is not considering the depreciation already posted.
Is it possible to make changes in the system where assets will consider the depreciation start date as 2010 (old asset depreciation start date), If i am manually changing the depreciation start date then system is calculating the depreciation start date as 1st period of the current year (because previous years are alredy closed),
instead of 5 years usefull life ,system depreciated the values with 50 years, i need to adjust the posted depreciation and when i create a new asset with usefull life of 5 years i need to manage the asset as already 4 years usefull life is expired.
Is there any solution ?
Regards
San

Hi Ajay,
Case : We have an asset 1000, which contains a value of $ 100000, it was capitalizes in 2010 with usefull life of 50 years and past 4 years depreciating with 50 years usefull life, This is a legacy asset and contains the value of so mny different assets.
Now we need to create different assetd with different asset class and contains different usefull life, We need to transfer the value from Asset 1000 to these new created assets, here my concern is about the depreciation already posted to the asset 1000,
Assume my new assets value is $ 20000, i can transfer the value from asset 1000 to my new created asset. but here depreciation should be a problem because last 4 years depreciation is calculated as 20000 @ 50 years , but actual usefull life was 5 years.
Is there any methode to adjust the already posted depreciation.
Regards
San

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Hi
Does anyoe has any solution or will there be changes to SAP B1's Fixed Asset?
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
Calculation = (518749.95 - 20750 - 3458.34)/352
where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
Siew Yuen

Hi Yatsea
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
Calculation = (518749.95 - 20750 - 3458.34)/352
where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
Siew Yuen

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Currently, SAP standard calculates the depreciation as the difference between the posted depreciation throughout the previous months and the amount that should have been depreciated with the new useful life, and it assigns this calculated amount in the current month when the useful life is changed.
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A fixed asset with str.line depreciation has the following values:
Acquisition value: 12000 eur
Useful life: 3 years
Depreciation per year: 4000 eur.
The asset starts to depreciate on 01.01.2008 and its useful life is
changed to 2 years on 01.07.2008. On that moment the net book value is
10000 eur.
SAP adjusts the difference between the amount that should have been
depreciated with the new useful life (3.000 eur) and the real amount
posted (2.000 eur) = 1.000 eur depending on the "smoothing" flag:
1. If the flag is not marked: SAP assigns 1.500 eur (500 eur (6.000/12)
+ 1.000 eur from the difference) on 01.07.2008
2. If the flag is marked: SAP distributes the difference between the
remaining periods of the current year (from July to December) and it
assigns 666,66 eur per month (500 eur + 166,66, obtained from 1.000
eur/6 months).
But we need the same depreciation amount distributed over the remaining
months: 10.000 eur/18 months = 555,55 eur/month.
Has anyone come through the same problem before?
The only solution I can think of is transferring the asset values to a new one. Or maybe a user exit.
Any feedback will be much appreciated.
Thank you very much in advance. Best regards

Hi Markus,
Sorry to come back to you regarding this question. Unfortunately we are not still on 6.0 so we can't take advantage of the new functionality.
I am now trying to make an asset transfer through transaction ABUMN but the new asset is taking into account the capitalisation value of the original asset rather than the net book value that we would need the system to consider to calculate the new depreciation values.
Do you know if there is a way to solve this?
Thanks a lot. Best regards

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