Asset under Construction - Is it possible to calculate depreciation?

Hello Expecrts,
I have a question and in need to get aswers for that- is it possible to calculated depreciation for AuC. And in case of Down payment too.
Please let me know- 1. General senario
2. Diffierent possibilities on depreciation calculation.
Thank you to check the new thread.
Cordially,
partha
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Hi Partha Saradhi...
Ordinary depreciation is not allowed for assets under construction in most countries. You reflect this limitation by choosing a depreciation key that does not allow ordinary depreciation in the book depreciation area. To ensure that this depreciation key is protected during master data maintenance, select the asset class as the maintenance level for the book depreciation area.For certain assets under construction, special tax depreciation is allowed. In this case you also enter corresponding keys in the asset class, to be used as mandatory default values.
reward points if u so fit
Dasharathi

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i have created the AUC asset class with line settlement checked.
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regards
sayeed

Hi,
You can manage the asset under construction in the system in two different ways, depending on the types of functions that you need. The asset under construction can be either a normal asset record, or a master record with line item management. As a result, the transfer from the asset under construction to completed fixed assets can be handled in one of two ways:
·        Summary transfer from a normal asset master record to the receiver assets (transaction type 348/349)
·        Line item settlement of an asset under construction that has line item management
The Investment Management (IM) component is recommended for handling large-scale capital investments. Using the IM component, you can manage a capital investment in parallel: for financial accounting purposes as an asset under construction, and for controlling purposes as an internal order or project. For more information, see the documentation for the Investment Management component.
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The procedure corresponds to the procedure for the transfer between two assets within the same company code (see Posting the Splitting or Moving of an Asset). Before carrying out a full transfer of an asset under construction, you have to reverse any down payments that were posted in the current fiscal year. Down payments are ignored for a partial transfer.
Special transaction types for the transfer of assets under construction allow for transfers to be displayed in the asset history sheet as acquisitions to fixed assets.
Assets under Construction with Line Item Management
In the FI-AA component, you can accumulate costs under purely technical aspects in an asset under construction. You do not need to consider the later creation of fixed assets at this point. During the construction phase, you can accumulate all acquisitions for an investment in a single asset. These acquisitions include
·        External activity (acquisition from vendor)
·        Internal activity (internal order)
·        Stock material (withdrawal from warehouse)
in a single asset. When using this 'collective management' of assets under construction, it is possible to manage the individual acquisitions as open items over the course of several fiscal years. At completion, the line items must be cleared and then distributed to the various receivers. The system activates open item management when an asset under construction is created, if you set the corresponding indicator in the asset class. In addition, you have to assign a settlement profile to the company codes involved, in Customizing for Asset Accounting, in order for the line item settlement to work (see Define Settlement Profile in the Implementation Guide). The main function of the settlement profile is to specify the allowed receivers (such as, assets or cost centers).
Hope this helps you. Let me know if you need any other information.
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Manish

Error in depreciation run - assets under construction

Hi!
Could someone please help me with the following:
My customer has a large amount of assets under construction (AuC) and also other assets. None of the assets under consctruction should have a depreciation key (or depreciation key 0000) and no depreciation accounts are allocated in transaction AO93 for AuC . But my customer now has incorrectly created a few AuC (that should NOT be depreciated at all) with depreciation key LINK. What happened?
1) Test run depreciation (AFAB) for all assets in period 1 during 2010. In test run no error log was created, everything looked fine.
2) Executed depreciation in background.
3) When looking at each of the assets in transaction AW01N I can see that all assets (both real assets and AuC with depreciation key) has depreciation posted in period 1. BUT, no depreciation has been posted in general ledger on any of the asset classes!
4) I have now changed the depreciation key on all AUC in AS02 to 0000 so that no depreciation will be calculated.
5) Trying to run AFAB again for period 2 but error message says that period 1 was terminated and that period 1 should be restarted.
6) Trying to run period 1 again in AFAB with restart but error message says "Account 'Acc.dep. accnt.for ordinary depreciation' could not be found for area 01" and refering to all of the incorrect AuC that I have corrected (to no depreciation key)
Please how can I go on? I want to reverse the depreciation in period 1 since I didn't get any posting i the general ledger. And then I want to make a new depreciation run only with correct assets (only depreciation on real assets, not on AuC).
Please help!
I am very thankful for any help!
Many many thanks in advance!

Hi, Can you please how the issue is solved because i have the same problem which i need to resolve immediately. Please reply me as soon as possible
with regards,
Prabhakar

Capitalize borrowing costs to asset under construction u2013 IAS23

Dear experts,
According to IAS 23 we are required to calculate interest on capital invested in an asset under construction.
Borrowing costs that are directly attributable to the acquisition, construction or production of a qualifying asset form part of the cost of that asset. Where funds are borrowed specifically, costs eligible for capitalization are the actual costs incurred less any income earned on the temporary investment of such borrowings. Where funds are part of a general pool, the eligible amount is determined by applying a capitalization rate to the expenditure on that asset. The capitalization rate will be the weighted average of the borrowing costs applicable to the general pool. The amount of borrowing costs that an entity capitalizes during a period shall not exceed the amount of borrowing costs it incurred during that period.
Detail scenario
The construction of a qualifying asset is controlled by an investment measures that are managed as projects - WBS elements and settled to an asset under construction periodically. The calculated interest shall update only the determine depreciation area set on the interest profile (OPIB).
The borrowing operations are managed by money market transaction on TRM (Prod. Category 550 Interest rate instrument).
Using the interest calculation function (CJZ2 - Individual Processing or CJZ1 - Collective Processing) we encountered several problems/ restrictions.
1 u2013 When funds are borrowed specifically to a qualifying asset for example, an interest rate instrument as a money market transaction on TRM should be capitalized according to the actual incurred borrowing cost and not by a capitalization rate. How to assign the value to the WBS element?
2 u2013 When funds are part of a general pool, although we can calculate and update the effective interest rate for each borrowing transaction (TMEZ) how to determine the weighted average capitalization rate by company code and define it on the Reference Interest Rates (OBAC) to be used in the interest calculation?
3 u2013 Even if the capitalization rate is defined and updated manually in the reference interest rate for the interest calculation, how to limit the amount of borrowing costs that will be capitalized during the period? The calculated interest in period shall not exceed the amount of borrowing costs it incurred during that period.
Is there any other functionality to support interest calculation and capitalization of borrowing costs to asset under construction according to IAS23 requirements?
Please advice.

Hi,
The interest rates for capitalization and for appropriation can be collected in separate cost centers and apportioned to WBS . If you incur interests at the group level,then using accrual apportion the relevant portion to the respective C/Codes.
For arriving the weighted average i assume you take the planned interest.For restricting the planned to the actual ones use the " Budget Manager" functionality,give the actual value,set zero tolerance.This will help restricting to the actuals.
Hope this helps.
Regards
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Settlement of an Internal Order to Asset Under Construction

We are running SAP 4.7 and Iam trying to settle an Internal order to AUC and I get the following error
You cannot use this transaction type to post to this asset
Message no. AA834
Diagnosis
The transaction type entered belongs to transaction type group 15. According to the specifications for this transaction type group, posting with transactions types belonging to this group are only allowed in specific asset classes (for example, asset classes for assets under construction).
The asset to which you are posting belongs to class 18000 (chart of depreciation SEEF). You cannot post to this class using the transaction type you have entered.
Procedure
Check the asset number entered. You may want to allow posting with this transaction type group for the asset class of the asset.
**Please take note that the costs which have come on the internal oder are through GR( Goods receipt) and not down payment. Also note that last month, the order settled without any problems!**

Hi,
thanks for your answer.
I want to do that because of some french tax rules.
These rules say that goods, hours or services produced internally for the contruction of an asset can be "delivered" to itself.
So you can register output tax based on the value produced but you have also to register input tax for the same amount.
Finally the balance for VAT amount is 0.
I was interested to know if that was possible to automize. If not, there is still the possibility to make a separate postings at month end or year end.
Best Regards

Asset Under Construction(AUC),During month end settlement run(via KO8G)

Hi Guys ,
please hlep on this AUC :
During month end settlement run (via tcode KO8G), if there are -ve (credit) values to be settled to an Asset Under Construction (AUC) asset which does not have sufficient +ve value in the current FY, the settlement run will prompt an error message "Balance for transaction type group 10 negative for the area 01". The TT posted via the settlement run is TT115. To get around, user has to raise a manual journal (via doc type AT) to post the -ve value to the same AUC asset via TT101. TT 115 and 101 are configured differently (see attached).
Since the Fixed Assets system does accept credit posting to AUC via a journal, is there a solution to make posting go through via the settlement run?
Regards,
Narra

You can settle the AUC value in one period and posting can be made in another period. in the same you can give the different asset value date in KO88 screen. The only limitation is this possible only if the fiscal year is same.
Give the asset value date as 15.07.2007 in KO88
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Settlement from internal order to asset under construction

HI All,
I have allocated some labors hours cost from production cost centers to real order which is created for allocating the internal cost to asset under construction.
when i allocate the labor hours by using the "KB21N" it has used the secondary cost element that is "Internal activity allocation" cost element "1200002".
i have given the source cost element "1200002" which is created as "internal activity allocation" and in settlement cost elements folder i have given receiving category is "FXA" and selected by cost element check box. i selected required entry field in settlement profile and assigned in order type.
when i do the settlement to asset under construction from internal order it is showing bellow errow.
"Settlement by cost element not possible due to secondary cost element
Message no. KD553
Diagnosis
You want to settle the secondary cost element 1200002 by cost element to an asset or G/L account, which is not allowed.
Procedure
Extend your allocation structure R3, so that secondary cost elements are not settled by cost element, but with a settlement cost element."
please let me know the problem and where i did mistake. give me the solution
thanks in advance
Mr.Rao

HI,
in your allocation structure R3 you entered in the view "Settlement cost element" that settlement receiver categoy FXA receives values "by cost element". This is only possible for primary cost elements. For internal activities do not tick "by cost element" but use a settlement cost element with cost element category "22".
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Gather all cost for asset under construction

Hi everybody
Please tell me the way to gather all cost for asset under construction. You can detail as good as possible.
Thanks so much
Ngocpt

Dear Ngocpt,
Internal order is functionality from CO. U can use it for the purpose of collating all the cost. U can also do cost planning in internal orders. This helps u to analyse bet planned & actual cost.
Create IO thru KO01. Once created use it in ur transactions. In your case u can use it in posting any document to AUC.
Also as I mentioned in my previous post that IO can posted with real values and statis tical values. If you want to post statistical vales only then check the box statis tical order in control data.
Whenever passing an entry put ur IO number in "order" field.
Hope this is of use to u.
Regards,
Ajay

Asset Under Construction creation, Internal Orders,

Hi,
We employ internal orders for collecting costs for an AUC. However, we have a requirement in which when an internal order is created for asset under construction, SAP has to automatically create an AUC asset and assign it in the settlement profile of the internal order. Is this possible? If so what configuration should I do.
Thanks for your help.
Ram

Hi Ram,
Yes. It is very much possible. You will have to create an Investment profile for that and in the investment profile give the Asset class of the AUC. Do this in transaction OITA.
When this investment profile is entered in each Internal order you create, the system automatically creates an AUC asset to which the costs can be settled.
Read the documentation for Investment Management component in the IMG and SAP help. YOu will get what you need. Thanks.
Thanks,
Vishal.

Assets Under Construction

Hello can any one advice on this issue ?
My client wants to have an AUC but he is procuring the Asset and other incidental costs through PO and need to also have to capture the Duties at the same time but the Asset is not caplitalized in the books instead it should be in Capital Work In Progress.Later on he wants to capitalize the Assets from Transferring from AUC to final asset then only this time it should reflect in books.
Hoe can I make these settings in SAP ? Is it possible ? then How?

Hi Edukondalu,
Yes. its possible to define Assets under construction. You can define a specific Asset class that would have defined as AUC (No depreciation keys etc).
And you can create AUC asset master first and assign to POs. After incurring all expenditure under the AUC assets, you can capitalize the expenditure to Main Asset using transaction AIAB & AIBU
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Som

Transfer Asset Under Construction

Dear Forum members:
We want to transfer an asset from one Cocode to another due to settlement under the wrong Cocode. Is it possible to transfer Asset under construction from one company code to another. So far, tests carried out with abt1n have been futile.
What factors need to be considered before hand in carrying out an intercompany asset transfer?

HI,
Provide another settlement rule for the Order for which asset you want to transfer balances from AUC and made settlement run again.
Murali

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can anyone tell me if it's possible to transfer from Asset Under Construction to Materials using AIAB and AIBU transactions?
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Nuno Anjos

Hi,
Please check the information in the SAP Library for settlements to material. There is quite some information that will help: e.g http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/EN/a9/ab778a414111d182b10000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
or
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/EN/5b/ae39a94b8611d182ba0000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Settlement of WBS element down payments to an asset under constructions

The down payment (of the transactions tcode F-47 and tcode F-110), are
always settlement wbs element (tcode CJ88), we do not want to post down
payments to the receiving asset under construction (transaction type
180 or 181).
In the down payments are always taken into account in the settlement to
an asset. The settlement of the down payment is the actual reason for
the previous update of down payments in FI (Transaction type group
15). Furthermore, the settlement of down payments to assets should
not be capitalize.

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Hi
It is the same flow as explained by AP above
If Investment management module is active, then on settlement i believe the AUC asset is automatically generated. Therefore you have to define an asset master and then include this asset in the settlement rule of the IO. Thus on settlement the cost in the IO would flow to the asset
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Error in dep run - Asset under construction

Hi!
Could someone please help me with the following:
My customer has a large amount of assets under construction (AuC) and also other assets. None of the assets under consctruction should have a depreciation key (or depreciation key 0000) and no depreciation accounts are allocated in transaction AO93 for AuC . But my customer now has incorrectly created a few AuC (that should NOT be depreciated at all) with depreciation key LINK. What happened?
1) Test run depreciation (AFAB) for all assets in period 1 during 2010. In test run no error log was created, everything looked fine.
2) Executed depreciation in background.
3) When looking at each of the assets in transaction AW01N I can see that all assets (both real assets and AuC with depreciation key) has depreciation posted in period 1. BUT, no depreciation has been posted in general ledger on any of the asset classes!
4) I have now changed the depreciation key on all AUC in AS02 to 0000 so that no depreciation will be calculated.
5) Trying to run AFAB again for period 2 but error message says that period 1 was terminated and that period 1 should be restarted.
6) Trying to run period 1 again in AFAB with restart but error message says "Account 'Acc.dep. accnt.for ordinary depreciation' could not be found for area 01" and refering to all of the incorrect AuC that I have corrected (to no depreciation key)
Please how can I go on? I want to reverse the depreciation in period 1 since I didn't get any posting i the general ledger. And then I want to make a new depreciation run only with correct assets (only depreciation on real assets, not on AuC).
Please help!
I am very thankful for any help!
Many many thanks in advance!
with regards,
Prabhakar

Hi,
I had the similar situation couple of months back. I followed below mentioned process and it worked out well.
1) Maintain GL account for depreciation in AO90
2) restart depreciation run for the relevant period
3) change the depreciation key to 0000
4) repeat depreciation run for the same period (It will post a reverse entry in the same month itself. So the net impact of depreciation in the same month is zero).
By the way I have a suggestion to prevent this issue in future.
You may not be able to detect this issue on test run if you execute on foreground mode because the test run execution is restricted to 1000 assets. If the error is on 1001th asset, you will not know.
Hence, always execute depreciation test run on background mode, check for any errors and execute production run only if there are no errors.
Hope this helps....
Best Regards,
Madhu

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