Assign instruments to Midi channels?

Hi. How do i set up instruments/patches in mainstage and only have them work on specific midi channels?
For example being able to have 16 patches, each with an individual midi channel.
Is this possible in Mainstage3?

Hi
Use the "MultiTimbral" function in the Channel Strip Inspector to specify which strips respond to which MIDI channels, per patch.
CCT

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How to access audio instruments as midi channels from midi keyboard?

Hi!
This is my first post here.
I use mostly Logic Pro 7 as a sound module with my keyboard. I have a song file in Logic that I made some time ago, where I've linked every audio instrument to a corresponding audio channel (same midi channel). All channels are in record mode, and thus every audio instrument is assigned a midi channel - and I can play different audio instruments by changing the midi channel on my midi keyboard.
Now, I want to create more tracks, so I can have more instruments to choose between. That doesn't work.. I try to make a new logic file and do the same thing with more channels, but I can't remeber how I made this work in the first place. I've been trying for hours and hours, and I'm going nuts here.
I would extremely grateful if anyone could tell me how this is done.
(No rewire/extra software is necessary.)
Thanks for reading.

Welcome!
It's fairly straightforward. On each audio instrument, assign a MIDI channel in the parameter box - so eg Audio Instrument 1 is set to MIDI channel 1, Audio Instrument 2 is set to channel 2 etc.
The key part is in your song settings "File -> Song Settings -> Recording" to make sure "Auto demix by even channel" is ticked.
Now, shift-click on the record buttons for all your audio instruments, and when you send on MIDI channel 1, you'll play the first one, switching to channel 2 you'll play the second one, and so on.
The max you can do is 16 channels at once, afaik, as the sequencer input doesn't retain port info (which is a bit of a shortcoming in my book, but there you go...)

Assign instrument to midi controller buttons

Good evening folks, recently i've got a Launchkey 61 and i'm having trouble programming it with Logic X.
Here are some of my doubts:
1 - I want to operate the keyboard as a common tonebank synth, press a button and it change the patch, how do i do that? How can i assign patches to Launchkey pads and buttons?
2 - How can i create dual and split tones?
Thanks in advance.

Hi - quick question - are you planning to do this for live performance? If the answer is yes, it's much easier to do this in Mainstage rather than Logic. If it's not for live use, I'll let someone with better knowledge of Logic than me answer you.

Multiple midi channels in one region

Hello,
I've been using Logic since version 4.7, but haven't tried the following in a version newer than 5.5.1. Not sure what functionality might have changed, so here goes...
I'm having issues with having notes with different midi channel assignments in a single region. I have 3 audio instrumets on midi channel one, two, and three, respectively. I have a midi instrument whose midi channel is set to all, that is patched to all three audio instruments in the environment. The track containing my region is playing back on the midi instrument, not the individual audio instruments. I have assigned channels 1, 2, and 3 to individual notes in the region, yet when it plays, all 3 audio instruments are triggered for every note rather than only the instrument whose midi channel matches the note's channel.
Thanks in advance,
JG

Thanks for the responses! The issue is that the three audio instrument objects in the environment are not respecting it's assigned midi channel. Yes, the channel splitter will split the incoming midi channel, but I shouldn't have to use the splitter if I set the midi channel on instrument 1's parameters pane to channel 1, and if the the midi channel is set to channel 2 on audio instrument 2 ect. So in the above example, no matter how how many different events I send on different midi channels to audio instrument 1, audio instrument 1 should only respond to midi channel 1. However it responds to all midi channels. Again, the channel IS NOT SET TO ALL.
So here's a simple test:
-Instantiate Logic's EFM1 on audio instrument 1
-Set audio instrument 1's midi channel in the parameters pane to midi channel 4
-Create a blank midi region with the pencil tool on audio instruments 1's track in the arrange window
-Open up the blank region in the matrix editor
-With the pencil tool, create a few notes.
-Then open up the same region in the event list editor and make sure that all the notes are on a midi channel other that channel 4.
-Play back the region and EFM1 will play back not respecting it's channel assignment!
Hope this clears some stuff up.

How Can I separate my MIDI Channels with layered instruments in MainStage 2 With my Axiom 61?

I have been at it for 3 days straight. I want to play an internal instrument (EVB3 for example) and trigger samples with the EXS24 without triggering notes from the other instrument. I have my keyboard set to MIy help meDI channel 1 and my drum pads set to MIDI channel 10. The still play together. I've tried changing MIDI input on both channel strips to multitimbral, Channel 1 for the keyboard and channel 10 for the drum pads. Still playing together. I've tried changing attributes in the Mapping screen. Still...
I don't think its the Axiom. I've tried changing MIDI CC numbers but then it won't talk to either instrument. I'm currently using MIDI cables into a 3rd generation M-Box. I've tried using USB as well. Please, somebody help me!!

Sorry for the late responce, I've been in program mode and haven't had a chance to come back to this.
I figured it out. It was an option that I had over looked in the Assignments & Mapping tab in Edit Mode. At the bottom of the window that says All Devices. In that menu there is another tab that says Channel 1-16. If you click where it says Unassigned, down in the Screen Control Inspector there is a checked box that says "Send unassigned MIDI to all Channel Strips". If you uncheck that box then everything works perfectly. It is a little extra work having to assign the keyboard everytime you ad a channel strip but when you have to do some serious programming it's worth it.
Anyone who needs to program with multiple devices should uncheck this right out of the gate. It will save you from pulling your hair out.
Thank you Bruno for your help. It is much appreciated.

Multitimbral Instrument Plugins (ie 1 instument many midi channels)

I am using SampleTank and Kontakt and they way I use them just does not seem right ! The problem starts here..
- when I add Kontakt to a Instrument Strip the Midi channel is assigned in the strip in the environment window.
- If I create multiple tracks with the same Instrument and change the midi channel of a track they all change - Doh... not very logical.
The only work around to this that I have found is to create multiple instrument stips on env window and assign them all to the same instrument (ie instrument 1).... then give each a serperate midi channel - this creates lots of channels with the same audi meters bobbing up and down.
Sure I can use multiple instances of the same plugin (as with EXS24) but that is not very memory or processor effecient...
Now I know I can create Aux Channels and route channels to each - but you get in a "too many channels" mess !
So am I missing something is there an easy & logical way to put an instrument on a channel and route multiple midi tracks to it ?
Did I explain the problem clearly ? Any help/advice/guidance very welcome !
Cheers
Ian

Hello !
You have to go in the environment page, instruments, and create a new multi instrument, which you will name Kontakt for instance. Activate all channels by ticking each check box in the instrument icon in the environment page. Then open another environment page where you will choose to see the Audio objects, I.E. the mixer in that case. Drag a cable from you newly created multi instrument to the channel strip containing your Kontakt sampler. You get then a message saying that the ports are in use, do you want to change the assignment, and you answer YES. Now in the arrangement page, set midi channel of Kontakt to All. Now you can create Midi tracks for each midi channel. Multiple outputs are either managed inside the sampler itself or using the Multiple Output version of the plugin, depending of which plugin model.
Hope this helps

How to play multiple instruments simultaneously on different MIDI channels?

I'm very new (today!) to Mainstage and I have a Yamaha HX-3 organ with three keyboards (Upper - Channel 1, Lower - Channel 2, Pedalboard - Channel 3). I'd like to play all three channels live simultaneously with a different instrument on each one (ie. Piano, Organ and Bass) but I can't figure out how to do this.
I've managed to setup a concert with all three keyboards on different MIDI channels with three different instruments but I can only play one of the keyboards at a time. The other two show MIDI keyboard activity but no sound...HELP!
I also have Native Instruments Komplete 7 if that would help in this regard (I know the Hammond organ sound in Komplete lets me play all three keyboards at the same time).
Thanks,
Don Thompson.

First create 3 keyboards in Layout mode and assign each to its own MIDI channel (I think you may have done this already). Then, create three channel strips, either at the Concert, Set, or Patch level with the three sounds you want to use. Each Channel Strip can be assigned to a different keyboard from your layout. To do this, go to Edit mode, select a Channel Strip, and look at its attributes in the pane below your layout. I don't have MS in front of me but there should be a dropdown list with the keyboards that you have in your layout. Just pick the right one for each strip and you should be good to go.

Assigning different midi channels to Mainstage

Hello,
I'm trying to get Mainstage working with a midi accordion. For this to happen I need to be able to assign different midi channels to the different instruments I want i.e., piano for the right hand of the accordion would be midi channel 1, Double Bass for the left hand would be midi channel 2.
I've been looking through the manual and cant find a way to do it.
Does anyone know if it is possible?
Thanks
Angus

Thanks for the help! Here's a summary of the solution from the posts above:
Let's say you have a MIDI controller transmitting on more than one MIDI channel. Naturally you want to trigger different sounds on each MIDI channel. In my case, it's a Kurzweil MIDI keyboard/controller capable of 4 MIDI channels at once with split points and layers created in the MIDI performance setup.
My goal was to replace rack of MIDI modules with a MacBook running Mainstage (much easier to carry). I want to keep the MIDI setups in the keyboard and duplicate the multitimbral rack modules in Mainstage so I have a choice of taking either the rack or a laptop to the gig.
Here's what worked:
In the Mainstage layout tab I created 4 keyboards. each keyboard was set to the MIDI interface device and a unique MIDI channel. Each keyboard is named for its MIDI channel.
In the edit tab I created a single patch with multiple channel strips. I selected the first channel strip and assigned the sound I wanted in the channel strip itself. On the left side, in the channel strip inspector, I assigned the channel strip to one of the MIDI chanels (one of the keyboards I created in the layout tab).
Then on the right side at the upper right corner of the channel strip I hit the "+" to add a second channel strip to the same patch. I added the plug-ings I wanted and again in the inspector on the left I assigned it to one of the other channels. I created 4 channel strips in the patch.
The result was a multitimbral setup with piano, strings and sound effects on 4 different channels. All active at the same time but only sounding when I selected a MIDI performance in the controller that sends note data to these channels.
It worked very well at my gig last week. Still a couple of details to iron out, such as disabling volume control for certain channel strips.
Hope others find this helpful.
Carlos

Audio Instrument Midi Channels

Hello, all. Can someone explain to me the pros and cons of having the MIDI channel for your audio instruments set to 1 as opposed to all All (or All as opposed to 1, for that matter)? I ask this because I was having some problems with a third party plug (Native Instruments' Reaktor 4); namely it was playing in one instrument track (1), but then when I would set up another track with another instance of the same plug, it wouldn't play at all on the new track. This was very odd because when I inserted a different plug on the second track, I WOULD hear the new plug. Anyway, to make a long story short, I noticed the MIDI channels of all my instruments were set to 1. I changed them to All, and everything is now working and I can hear all my instruments. However, I was (still am) wondering if I, perhaps, just detrimented myself in some manner I know not what by changing my intrument MIDI channels from 1 to All.
Any help on clearing this up would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much, one and all, for all the help and support.
Javier Calderon

Thank you very much for the response, Natural. I'm glad that as far as you know, midi channel 1 generally works well.
Interestingly enough, I actually have to manually set the midi channel to 1 (on all tracks other than inst 1, that is) because whenever I create an instrument, Logic seems to automatically assign the instrument to its corresponding midi channel - i.e. inst 1=midi 1, inst 2=midi 2, etc.
And what you said regarding some software instruments being sensetive to the midi channel you assign seems to be thoroughly correct. However, it seemed to be channel 1 that caused the bugaboo in my NI Reaktor plug. Setting the midi channels to All seemed to work well.
Thanks again.
Anyone else have any knowledge or advice to impart would be welcomed and appreciated.
Javier

NI products only sound midi channel 1 of instrument instance

Set it up right. Multichannel Instrument cabled to Audio Instrument in Environment. But only channel one responds in every sub-channel selected in the arrange window. Whew! This is driving me crazy. What am I doing wrong? Port=All. Name of midi channel changes as it should in the parameter window, but I can only hear midi channel one in any subchannel when triggered from keyboard. The only way I can hear the other instruments is to use the NI onscreen keyboard. Still all midi info plays back on midi channel one which is not the sound I want for everything.
What a work out: an exercise in futility. Any ideas?

After letting the problem rest a couple days, I returned to it and got the setup to
work. I don't know for sure what I was doing wrong in the first place but here is
what I did differently that worked:
Before opening Audition, I opened keyrig.exe and set up the MIDI channels for the
instruments I wanted. I then SAVED the instrument profile for the GM4 module in the
GM4 Patch folder under the Keyrig Data folder (I think the folder names are correct
but am doing this from memory).
Then I opened Audition, did what I needed to do to get the keyrig loaded to play on a
MIDI track. I left the MIDI input on <All> and the output on <None> in the Sequencer.
I then clicked on Settings which brought up the keyrig.exe control panel. Then on
the GM4 module I LOADED the profile I had made above. Then, as I selected each
channel via the keyboard, I got the correct instrument and was able to record them. So
by "preloading" the instruments instead of trying to select them while in Audition,
the setup worked.
Observations: Audition and the keyrig.exe software do not like each other. If I had
the keyrig.exe software open (Settings) and accidentally clicked in a non-button area
of the interface, Audition crashed. Once I loaded my profile as above, I could then
assign new instruments to different MIDI channels from within Audition but since it
was easy to crash Audition while keyrig.exe was open, I would try to avoid it. Once
set up--it was a blast to goof around with the different sounds.

Assigning midi channels

I want to assign various instruments to a differnent midi channel per instrument, then on my midi controller press midi channel 3 for example and mainstage changes to the patch I would have set-up in the application. Having difficulties working this one out and finding any info on the subject. Hope you can help.
Thanks
P

boothman wrote:
When I change the midi channel on my keyboard, Mainstage is not changing the patch
Hi
Mainstage offers a variety of Patch Changing methods:
Mouse/Trackpad
Key Commands
In-Coming MIDI Program Change messages
Assign in-coming MIDI messages to buttons mapped to next/previous patch etc.
Assign a hardware control and map it to the Patch/Program number action
MS does not currently allow you to change (MS) patches using MIDI channel alone.
What you originally asked was basically how do I setup MS such that I can address different Instrument Channel Strips by changing MIDI channel on my controller.
You can do this as described above: make as many Instrument Channel Strips (in ONE PATCH) and assign them to different MIDI Channels as described in my previous post.
You could then set up additional MS Patches with another bunch of strips setup similarly. You would need to change MS Patches by one of the methods described above
HTH
CCT

Freeze tracks that use instrument objects: explode by midi channel?

Hello everyone,
I've hit a CPU and/or Disk speed wall and need to start freezing tracks. I've setup my environment to use "instrument objects" to control my sampler instruments, allowing for most of my instruments to access multiple articulations from one track. Great method for composition/arranging, but unfortunately it makes freezing instruments a challenge!
I know other users employ a similar method in their own Logic setups, and was wondering how do you guys deal with freeze files? Is there an "explode by midi channel" function which will separate a single track into multiple tracks per midi channel, which I can then easily freeze?
In a somewhat related question, how do you guys with similar setups use folders? Can I put all these "exploded" parts back into a folder for organizational purposes?
Thanks in advance for your reply!

Jonathan,
I'm very very slow to adopting the freezing of tracks to free up resources. I highly doubt that I'll be using it much in the future, because I don't like the fact that the behavior of simple commands like CMD-A doesn't work to select frozen tracks. There are other things about freezing that interrupt my work methods.
I'm very seriously considering getting a second computer to act as an orchestral "module" which I can play via MIDI (over a network, preferably). Based on my experiences during my latest project, doing 4 complex orchestrations, I can see that the amount of time and trouble it takes to freeze tracks/disable instruments to free up resources, and then re-enable them if a change is needed to any given part, will get very long in the tooth after a while. The biggest problem with this is running the risk of Logic crashing when it runs out of RAM.
So for now I'll use the occasional frozen track, or print parts as needed to free up instruments, but budget willing, not for much longer.
Best,
-=iS=-

Control only the software instrument of one channel strip at a time with one Controller

Hi people,
I have a Nord Lead 2 and a Korg Nanokontrol and I want to use these as Midi controllers in the following way, but don't really know how to set up the system:
I have 4 Channelstrips and each has the free software instrument Tyrell N6 inserted. I have the opportunity to change the volume of each channel strip with my faders on the Nanokontrol which works fine and gives me the opportunity to make layers and change also to only use one sound at a time. And this works fine. However, now I want to have the opportunity to change the parameters of each Tyrell with my Nord Lead. But with 4 channelstrips each with a Tyrell N6 I want to have the opportunity to only somehow manipulate only one instance of Tyrell at a time and change the channelstrip for which the Nord Lead manipulates the Tyrell. Is there an opportunity in Mainstage to do that?
Hope it is understandable. Help would be really much appricated. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Hi DaCaptain,
Thank you very much for your answer. I tried it yesterday, but it doesnt really work for me to be honest. The thing is that I really wanna stick to one patch, so that I can have like one patch for each song.
However, if you might be interested I found a way to do it yesterday on my own. This is how I have done it:
In Layout-Mode
- Create Controls for each instance of Tyrell. For my purpose I created 4 times:
             - controlls for the Filter Section
             - controls for ADSR1
             - controls for ADSR2
- So you have 4 Sections of controllers in Layout Mode. Each meant to controll one Tyrell Instance
- Now each section gets its own Midi Channel. So all the controllers of section 1 respond to MIDI Channel 1 and the controllers of section 2 respond to MIDI Channel 2 and so on.
- Now you tell the Nord Lead that it should send via MIDI Channel 1 and you assign the Cutoff-Controller of the Nord Lead to the controller (the one of the first section) that is suppose to control the cutoff of the first Tyrell. And you proceed this way until all the controllers of the first sections are assigned. Then you swith to MIDI Channel 2 on the Nord Lead and assign the Cutoff-Controller of the Nord Lead to the controller (the one of the second section) that is suppose to control the cutoff of the second Tyrell. And here again you proceed this way until all the controllers of the second sections are assigned. Then you go on with the third and fourth section taking MIDI Channel 3 and 4.
In Edit-Mode
- In Edit Mode now you of course assign the controllers to the functions in each Tyrell
Result
- Now you can switch between the MIDI Channels on the Nord Lead. This is quiet easy because you can assign a MIDI Channel to one of four buttons on the Nord Lead.
- So if you switch to MIDI Channel 1 you can controll the functions of the first Tyrell and if you switch to MIDI Channel 2 you can controll the functions of the second Tyrell. And all in one Patch with only one controller which is even from the nineties. I find this really great. The only problem is that the Layout might get really messy, if you try to maybe control more functions of each Tyrell. And I really think maybe Mainstage in future could give us the opportunity to create bigger Layouts - maybe with different Windows or something.
Hope you might find this interesting or even helpful.
See you

Help! I can't get Mainstage (2 or 3) to map patches to different midi channels

I recently upgraded to Mainstage 3, partly in the hope that I could solve this problem I've had.
So, I use an M-Audio Axiom Pro 61 and I want to have 2 channel strips on 1 patch: an organ sound controlled by the keyboard and some drum samples controlled by the drum pads.
In layout mode, I've set the keyboard to Channel 1 & the Drum pads to Channel 10 and in edit mode I've set each channel strips' midi input to the appropriate multitimbral settings.
When I play the drum pads I only get drums - so that's working fine - but when I play the keyboard it triggers both channels, and no amount of tweaking has got me round this issue.
I've tried to go into the Axiom Pro settings and change stuff there but haven't had much luck (though i'm not as well learned with the inner settings of the keyboard so I wonder whether there's something I can do there)
Can anyone help? I really want to multitask!
Thanks

For this scenario, you add 2 MIDI actvity or keyboards to your workspace. Name one "Organ" abd the other one "Drums" and assign both to your Axiom, but set the MIDI channel for the "Organ" to 1 and for the "Drums" to 10. Here's where the splitting by MIDI channel happens.
Now, switch from Layout to Edit mode and set the MIDI input of the organ channel strip to Keyboard "Organ" and the MIDI input of the drum channel strip to Keybaods "Drums". The Multitimbral setting in that section converts the MIDI events from the Keyboard objects and if the instrument reacts to all channels, it won't make a difference. This is meant for some AUs, that support Multitimbrality, like NIs Kontakt or the Apple's Vintage B3, that can make different sounds for upper, lower and pedal manuals.
Small re-cap: If you need to split by MIDI channels, you need to do this in Layout mode by adding objects, that react to a specific MIDI channel only.
Hope this helps!
DaCaptain

How do you change the midi channels of a region?

Lets say i have a region recorded on midi channel 1, how do I change the notes to be midi channel 2? Thanks

Depends.
First of all, are you talking about a MIDI region or an Audio region (Audio regions can "be on a MIDI channel", so to speak, if they contain controllers, i.e., volume, pan, etc.).
So let's say you're talking about MIDI regions for now.
The first order of business is to recognize that the actual channel of the MIDI events contained in the region is determined primarily by the MIDI channel that your controller is sending on. For simplicity sake, let's say your controller sends on channel 1, and the track you're recording on is set to play MySynth on channel 1.
If you're wanting to change the channel from 1 to 2, chances are you want to do this to assign this part to play a different sound on a multi-timbral synth. Let's say that the MySynth object -- as seen in the Environment -- is indeed a multi-timbral synth. If the synth selected for that track is currently assigned to play MySynth 1 (i.e., channel 1), just change it to MySynth 2 (from the track's menu).
Now, if you opened the Event Editor, you'd see that the channel of the MIDI data is still on channel 1! This is normal. Logic is able to "channelize" the data when you select a destination instrument that is on a different MIDI channel from the one that the data was recorded on. So if your track is now set to play MySynth 2, you can go into the Event Editor all day and change the MIDI channel of the data, but it will still be channelized to channel 2 because that track is assigned to play MySynth on channel 2.
There are many many reasons why you might still want to change the MIDI channel of the data in the Event Editor despite the channelizing that goes on. But without going into a whole shpiel about these kinds of applications, just know that the primary way to change the MIDI channel is to select an instrument on the desired MIDI channel.

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