Assign Profitability segment for Depreciation Run

Dear all,
I want to assign profitability segment for depreciation a/c,Where can i do this?please give me advise .
Thanks&Regards
Kumar

Hi Kumar,
Profitability segments are used to analyze contribution margins earned out of customer/customer segments. Here COGS is deducted from revenue to get the margin.
If you want depreciation to be picked up in profitability segment..It has to be picked up through COGS. To do this the depreciation has to be first posted to the cost center involved..which I think you must already have because of cost center assignment to assets. Later from the cost center you got to move the depreciation to production orders through activity or OH allocation, so that the asset depreciation gets picked up in COGS. After this COGS takes care of flow to COPA
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