Associate old keyword tag (name) to a face in PSE 8.0?

I have been using PSE 5 for a while, and am considering the upgrade to 8 .
In the trial version, I saw a nice face recognition engine, with labeling capabilities.
My question is, how to associate the names of people, that I have already labeled
in the old version of PSE, with the new type of tag that is attached to automatically
recognized faces.
I have thousands of images in my catalog, most of them tagged with the names
of the people in them. After importing to PSE 8, the names are considered as
"keyword" tags, but I would like to turn them to face recognition features.
By the way, is there a way to see the list of faces PSE recognizes, and Edit/Arrange them ?
Thanks,
Gideon.

Thanks for your assistance.
Since long time has passed from the time I asked the question, I discovered
a few things.
1) This observation is correct, but since I used to have PSE 5, which does not have face recognition, it does not matter much.
2) This is what I would expect from the program. However, from my question one can understand that it does not actually happen. What I found out since, is that it sometimes happens. I think that generally, if I first tag the image with the names, and then apply the face recognition procedure, the program would identify the tag with the name I gave the face. This does not always happen though (I think). However, if I just apply the face recognition program, and give a face a name (that already exists as a tag), the program adds a new tag with the same name and the association is not made. I believe there are further complications which I have not investigated fully. After the program recognizes a face, by its pattern recognition, and this name already exists as an old name tag, does it actually use this tag, or does it add a new name (assuming the picture was not previously labeled).
3) I would expect the program to perform face recognition on old pictures, which are already labeled with names, for which the program was already trained, by giving priority to these tags in the face recognition.
Gideon

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"sherlock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
I have created a webservice in workshop that has some methods what returnstring-data.
Now I want to create clients with different software-products. Because Igot some
errors with one of these products, I looked into the WSDL and noticed thatthe
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