AT&T 2wire network with Airport Extreme and Airport Express

Howdy,
I have AT&T DSL with a 2wire 2701hg-b plugged in one room but would like to extend my network to connect my Direct TV in my living room. Can I somehow connect my Airport Extreme (recently purchased) to the 2wire and use my Airport Express to wirelessly connect the Direct TV in the room? An additional concern is that my wifi keeps dropping on my Macbook Pro but not on my HP laptop. Any guidance/assistance is greatly appreciated.
Francisco

Well that's great news. . . I figured it probably just wasn't compatible. Just for the heck of it though, does this tell you anything? (I thought I could post a screenshot but I guess not. Here's the text)
+Public Routed Subinterface+
+(check box) Enable+
+Check ENABLE to create a route from the Internet to the public network specified below.++
+Router Address:+
+Subnet Mask: +
+(check box) Auto Firewall Open+
+(check box) Default DHCP Pool+
That was a portion of the 2Wire Routers settings page. What do they mean by Public Routed Subinterface?
Tyler

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