ATA PCI card with 48 bit BIOS support?

Hello,
I have an iMac G3 CRT purchased at the very end of 2001 (last of this model.) I am about to install a new hard drive. I am replacing an 80GB with a 160GB Maxtor (because they were the same price!) The drive box says that drives larger than 137GB require a Mac-compatible ATA PCI card with 48 bit BIOS support. Do I already have this? Is this part of the mother board? If not I will exchange the drive for a smaller one.
Thanks.
iMac G3 CRT Mac OS 9.2.x

I forgot to mention something. Firewire cases can allow you to make use of a larger drive though. So you could keep your internal and put the new drive in a firewire case that supports large drives and get lots of extra space.

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