Athlon Thnuderbird and k7n2 Delta 2 Platinum [SOLVED]

Hello there.
I needed to upgrade my machine but keep my current CPU, so after a little reading around i decided to go for the K7N2 Delta2 Platinum board.
Alot/all the places that sell this product in the UK, list it as being able to utilise the AMD Athlon Thunderbird chip. It also states that the board supports the "AMD Athlon" so i thought it was a safe bet.
Anyway i recieved the board today and the machine will not post. The fans are spinning and it does'nt beep. I have tried different RAM and a different PSU. I have read the manual and ill be honest when i say i was a little suprised to see "no go action" as this is the first computer i have built thats ever given me any trouble.
The chip that i have is an Athlon Thunderbird 1.0 Ghz 266 fsb axia-y. With the multipliers unlocked from an experiment from some years ago. I know the chip works as i have used it for about 4.5 years untill this morning when my new bits arrived.
I wonder if you would all be kind enough to give me some pointers.
Thanks
Take Care
G_N

Quote from: tyongchi on 15-September-05, 01:14:59
The mobo boots? Reply from MSI technical support suggested that this mobo does not support T'bird. I'm unable to achieve any POST (using T'bird 1.4GHz, 133 MHz fsb and 1.75Vcore) Sympton is similar to yours earlier. Pls advice how u do it?
I am really sorry but i dont really know what to suggest. Does yours switch on atall ? Mine didnt.
Off topic: I was installing Gentoo and i got a segmentation fault. I thought, uh oh, Faulty RAM.
Ive am doing some testing right now with memrest86 and Goldmemory, and they both find a load of errors.
Ive not given up and i tried a few bios setting to see if i could make a difference, or whether it was dodgey hardware. But to no avail. Untill i put the memory in Dimm1 and 2, thus taking it out of dual channel mode. So far so good, as far as the mem testing goes.
Ill let you know.
My bios settings for the memory are by SPD and the memory voltages is set to Auto. Safest i thought.
I thought about updating my bios, if it needs it, ill have to check. But i am relectant to just incaser the change decides it doesnt like the t'Bird.
Any thoughts on why i cant (it seems so far, dont wanna speak too soon) run the memory in dual channel mode? Or should i start a new thread ?
Take care all and thanks for all your input.
G_N

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I've recently got one of these.
Had a lot of fun installing the operating system etc direct from a K7N2G-ILSR board. Most of them revolved around the fact that the RAID controllers are different so I had no choice but to wipe the discs and do a clean install. BACK EVERYTHING UP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING (yes I'm shouting, so you can hear me....)
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Quote from: Richard on 11-August-05, 01:22:03
rickshaw,
The DLED indicated RAM that is not compatible with nForce. I would still recommend trying nForce Approved RAM to be sure.
Take Care,
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cuando tiene otro cpu enciende correctamente pero cuando le pongo el xp 3000+ no enciende el monitor ni marca ningun error solo no inicias, pero si enciende.

Why do you say Bios doesn't go to default options if with other CPUs Mobo turns on ? You must have in mind that each time you replace the CPU you must Clear CMOS to return to default options, and also you should clean HSF base and CPU die from old thermal grease. At least you know both CPU and Mobo works.
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