[Athlon64] cool'n'quiet

Hi there.
I have cool'n'quiet question/problem.
I've enabled cool'n'quiet in bios, installed latest amd cpu driver for winxp 1.2.2.0, latest corecenter 2.0.0.4 and set power management to minimal.
CPU speed droped to 1000Mhz in a second. But, shouldn't it drop to 800Mhz? Second thing is cpu rpm, corecenter states around 3200 rpm @ 1000Mhz. Shouldn't it be lower?
Thanks, Laki.

The fan speed should drop by itself usually but it can take some time to do so. I know some folks with Windows XP have stated in the past that it did not happen for them. There are options in Core Center or at least were there. I don't use Core Center though as it is junk. I use Speedfan and it works fine for that. However you have to set up Speedfan and that can be tricky. Do a forum search in this area for Speedfan to get links and some helpful info on how to set it up so that it works. You can also search for Core Center if you like to use that util and get some info on setting it up as well.
For whatever it is worth Speedfan does have more setup ability than does Core Center and thus more control. That is why so many of us preffer it.

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[Athlon64] Cool n Quiet and AMD driver problem...

I hate to be the one to start another cool and quiet thread, but this is a problem I can't figure out. I have been running cool and quiet on my NEO Athlon 64 motherboard for over a year now, and it has worked perfectly, until today. I re-installed windows, because it was giving me problems, thanks to one too many virus and spyware attacks over the past year. Anyway, I installed windows, installed service pack 1, and all the assorted drivers for my hardware. I downloaded the latest AMD cpu driver and installed it. I have my power option set to minimal. I have everything just as it was, but the cool and quiet never kicks in. I am monitoring it with the Cool and Quiet panel, and it just sets at 2000 mhz. Cool and Quiet is turned on in the bios, and so is acpi. Windows xp reports having ACPI installed. I'm stumped. Is the fact I am using SP1 and have not upgraded to SP2 have anything to do with this? I notice the latest AMD cpu driver mentions it is for winxp SP2. I am avoiding SP2 because it has an issue with software that I use on my network. If it's because of SP2, is there a site I could download the older AMD cpu drivers from, to get this thing working? Thanks for any help you can offer.

Hello dude!
Well I remember to be in the same case, but when I reinstalled the WinXP, it comes with the SP2 integrated and I just active the Cool n Quiet installing the AMD Power Monitor lasted version and set se PM to Minimal, and it works perfectly, And about your problem with the WinXPSP2 Firewall you just have to unmark the LAN protection from the Firewall settings and thats all...
Enjoy the Life, Enjoy AMD...

[Athlon64] No Cool'n'Quiet in K8MM-ILSR alias MSI 6741 + Athlon 64 2800.

Hi everybody,
I use the 3.6 bios ver and my option Cool'n'Quiet is Enable, In XP PRO SP2 I have dowlnload and installed the last drivers of AMD Athlon 64.
My fan speed is always at 3013, when I start CoreCenter (Last version of msi utility) I have no option for Cool'n'quiet.
With Google image i have seen some screen shoot with Cool'n'Quiet in CoreCenter.
What can I do, i'm feed up to listen this fan with 1% of cpu activity.
@+.

Quote from: dannol48 on 25-May-05, 20:57:16
Cool'n'Quiet and fan control are separate functions. I've got the board (see specs) and CnQ is working fine. My core frequency and core voltage do throttle.
Fan Control isn't an AMD CnQ function. Varying fan speed is a different function that's dependent on the motherboard's engineering. That's done by varying the voltage to the fan headers. I don't believe this board has that abiliity.
Danno
Edit: Using fans with thermistors to vary RPM can accomplish that function independent of the board.
How control the fan, i test this afternoon and anoter car K8N Platinum and when run Corecenter we can saw Cool'n'Quiet in the program and when i active in then fan speed fall at 900 in fact of 3100 ???.
@+.

Lockups caused by Cool and Quiet?

Since a few months, I have a MSI K8T Neo2 FIR motherboard with an Athlon64 3200+ (Venice) CPU, equipped with 2x512 Mb dual channel memory. No overclocking or any non-standard BIOS-settings; BIOS version 9.1. The system works great, but for one thing: I had frequent lockups...
After some time, I started noticing that my lockups occurred only when the system (running Gentoo Linux) was not doing very much (idle, or only doing some browsing with Firefox). Because of that, I started suspecting that my Cool and Quiet-setup had something to do with it: the lockups occurred when my system was running at 1000 MHz, never when running at 2000 MHz. Since I turned off Cool and Quiet (in the Linux kernel, I didn't touch the BIOS-settings) a week ago, I haven't had a single lockup, even though I've kept my computer running 24 hours a day mostly. So I guess my guess was right.
Can anyone explain what exactly is happening? Why is my system less stable when in 1000 MHz than in 2000 MHz? Can I do something to make the 1000 MHz-mode stable and return to running Cool and Quiet?

hi,
i have the same problem with the same chipset. (even if its another mb)
your post has been a big hint because after my lockups occured i tried to reproduce them with system/cpu torture tests but have not been succsessful. after that i declared that my system has been miraculously cured and went back to normal (i.e. mostly idle) usage and. bang, lockups again. so i disabled cool'n quiet for now and will see if that helps.
raoulst

K8NGM2-FID Cool-n-Quiet Problem & Resume from S3 Standby

I all I have a new K8NGM2-FID. I've installed all latest available drivers/BIOS from MSI, nVidia, AMD, and Microsoft.
I have a stability problem with system when I enable Cool-n-Quiet via Power Options (Control Panel on WinXP Pro SP2). Minimal Power Management. System is Dual Core Athlon64 4200+ with two 512MB DIMM (one is 333, and other is 400/333/266) Total 1GB RAM. Have no PCI/PCI Express cards installed. Once minial power options is enabled running apps begin to fail & generate Dr. Watson erros, and system will eventually BSOD. Cool-n-quiet is enabled in BIOS. Processor came out of another system with ATI Radeon 200 chipset, and Cool-n-Quiet was working fine there.
Also when I put systems in standby S3 mode, PATA IDE is not recognized (this is not main OS drive). But 36GB SATA WD Raptor drive works fine (this is main system drive).
Ideas? Suggestions? Fixes? ???
TIA

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If you're ocing your system my advice to you is disable C&Q.
No OCing here.
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What is your bios version?
Per initial post:
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I've installed all latest available drivers/BIOS from MSI, nVidia, AMD, and Microsoft.
This includes 3.2 of BIOS.
At this point I'm leaning towards getting new (matched pair) Corsair RAM.
Thanks for suggestions.
Any other things I can check? Suggestions

RS480M2 - Cool'n'Quiet fan control fails after hibernation

I'm using my RS480M2 as a HTPC base.
Works great (integrated s-video out is NICE!)
Cool'n'Quiet works great when the system is booted normaly but efter hibernation the fans doesn't reduse speed.
Anyone knows anything to fix this?
Maybe disable Qool'n'Quiet fan control i bios and use speedfan instead?
My current config
WinXP Pro SP2
Latest reference drivers for Chipset/Graphics from ATi
Latest reference drivers for sound and LAN from Realtek
Athlon64 3200+ (90nm winchester core)
2x512Mb twinmos DDR400 cl 2,5
60Gb 2,5" Hitachi HDD
Any Ideas?

I always use speedfan in the BIOS and leave C&Q enabled.
As C&Q does more then regulating the fan, it also regulates the speed of the CPU.
But you can remove corecenter for fancontrol and use speedfan in the BIOS.

AMD Athlon 64 Cool and Quiet - not working

Hello,
everything is now working on my Arch workstation, except c'n'q.
First, I searched the forum for information and tried quite a lot of things, yet it is not working.
The following modules are loaded:
* powernow-k8
* cpufreq_ondemand
As for the daemons:
* acpid
* cpufreqd
The CPU is always up running at full speed. In other distros I was used to daemons like powernowd who did the frequency scaling, and so I went on and pacman'ed powernowd (pkgbuild), yet it does not work. Of course c'n'q is enabled in BIOS. Btw, I also tried athcool.
I'd be glad for any help.
Vic

[*] CPU Frequency scaling
<*> CPU frequency translation statistics
Default CPUFreq governor (performance) --->
--- 'performance' governor
<*> 'powersave' governor
<*> 'userspace' governor for userspace frequency scaling
<*> 'ondemand' cpufreq policy governor
<*> CPU frequency table helpers
<*> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow!
These are all the options I have enabled in my kernel to handle CPU frequency scaling and I added this to /etc/rc.local
echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
Under normal usage, this is my /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 31
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1001.731
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow lahf_lm
bogomips : 1966.08
Under heavy usage...
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 31
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1803.116
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow lahf_lm
bogomips : 3538.94
Cool n' Quiet works perfectly for me.

Again: Cool`n Quiet and K8m Neo-V

Working on a new computer for my wife. She wants her new computer to be quiet and powerful (no gaming), so i bought MSI K8M Neo-V and athlon 64 2800+. I have two problems now:
1 I had the same problem as described in an earlier post, it would not post after enabeling cool`n quiet. A bios upgrade fixed that. But: The fan speed does not go down ! Win Xp tells me the cpu is running at 990mhz, but the fan is still going at over 3000rpm. This must be wrong?
2 I bought 256 Mb ram (TwinMos PC3200). But the motherboard tells me its only 196 Mb Win Xp says its 192 Mb of ram... Is this a motherboard problem or faulty ram? Didn`t help putting the ram in the DIMM2-socket. Any suggestions?
Thanks, great forum

Thanks bosskiller, great link to the cool`n quiet FAQ. I understand now, that its up to the mobo-producer to give us a way to adjust fan speed. As far as I have found out, MSI have not given us this important possibility yet. The newest bios (ver. 3.2) does not adjust fan speed automatically, and there is no way to do it manually.
The newest version of CoreCenter from MSI does not support this mobo yet (I think)(it does not controll the fan, but it gives you the rpm). New versions of the bios and/or CoreCenter can fix this, I hope. Otherwise we must buy technical regulators like Zalman Fan Mate 1.
About Ram: I think bosskiller is right about the shared memory, the VGA part occupies 64 mb ram. CPU-Z reports the ram-module as 256 mb. The os only gets 192 mb.
I bought only 256 mb ram, TwinMos PC 3200, single banks I think. I was planning on using my old windows millennium, and save some money on both os and ram.
The ram is running 400 mhz, no problem there.
I use Zalman ST-300BLP power supply. 300w, 15A for the 12V. I dont think the power supply gives me any problems. I have used it with my P4-system before, no problems there either.
(I use thermaltake fanless power supply with the P4 now, and its great )
The athlon64 system looks very quick, if MSI solves the fan speed issue, this system is going to be great!

AMD Cool 'n Quiet (powernow-k8 module)

Hi,
Im having a little problem on getting CnQ to work, here is whats going on>
[root@archcrow crow]# modprobe powernow_k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-ARCH/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
[root@archcrow crow]#
Im using the stock arch scsi kernel26.
Im missing something here? or the stock kernel has a problem with cool and quiet?
Just in case: I do have an Athlon64 and a motherboard supporting the feature, also its activated in the BIOS

Hi,
This were my modules before doing anything:
[root@archcrow crow]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
eth1394 21640 0
uhci_hcd 34576 0
parport_pc 28996 0
parport 38600 1 parport_pc
irtty_sir 7424 0
sir_dev 18492 1 irtty_sir
irda 144188 1 sir_dev
crc_ccitt 2432 1 irda
pcspkr 4044 0
ohci1394 35716 0
ieee1394 111416 2 eth1394,ohci1394
nvidia 3465660 12
pci_hotplug 34748 0
joydev 10560 0
usbhid 45824 0
snd_intel8x0 34336 1
snd_ac97_codec 78176 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss 56612 0
snd_mixer_oss 21120 2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 101252 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 27140 1 snd_pcm
snd 59108 6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 10848 2 snd
snd_page_alloc 10244 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
forcedeth 18560 0
ehci_hcd 35332 0
ohci_hcd 23560 0
usbcore 125560 5 uhci_hcd,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
tsdev 8128 0
evdev 9984 0
rtc 13128 0
nls_cp437 6144 2
vfat 14976 2
fat 42912 1 vfat
I could load the "freq_table" module, but the "acpi_cpufreq" answered with the following error:
[root@archcrow crow]# modprobe acpi_cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.10-ARCH/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
Its the same as powernow-k8.
Dont understand whats wrong with this:
Yes the CnQ is enabled in BIOS, and YES, ACPI is also enabled (also tryed disabling it).

Is Cool 'n Quiet stable?

I run a K8N Neo2 Platinum (MS-7025) with 1.4 bios, 3800+ NewCastle CPU and Kingston HyperX 400MHz memory.
The setup works like a charm, but when I enable "Cool 'n Quiet" it seems to cause lock-ups and reboots.
The system is NOT overclocked, everything is set to AUTO in BIOS, except for memory which has been set to a bit slower settings than SPD reports.
When I have Core Center open on screen to watch what Cool 'n Quiet does, it seems like most of the time it reports 200MHz x 5.0 at idle, but when I start up an application, it can peak to 380MHz x 12 ?
Neither memory nor CPU should be able to handle that kind of FSB clock, so is it a system bug that the clock peaks at way above 200MHz? I really don't DARE to use "Cool 'n Quiet" for that reason, I need a stable system that doesn't hang or reboot in the middle of working.
Later,
Anders.

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Originally posted by mrpiercer
{snip} both Core Center and cpu-z reports huge momentaneous jumps that takes the FSB to new heights.. Way over 300MHz in extremely short periods. Could it be that both applications simply gets tricked to think that the FSB is changed? If so, how come the systems locks up dead hard WITH C&Q enabled, but never once WITHOUT the C&Q enabled?
Andres,
I'm not getting the BSODs but the fluctuations do have me concerned. This thread is interesting. Blue screen caused by Vcore flucuations?
Raising the Vcore from 1.50 to 1.525 or 1.55 does seem to help stabilize my system but the CPU temp goes up. I've got a Thermalright XP-90 on the way so heat shouldn't be a problem.
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What I've found so far...
Cool & Quiet disabled in the BIOS.
Start CoreCenter running.
Start Speedfan running.
Start WCPUCLK
Put a full load on the CPU. (seti@home)
Just moving the mouse around causes a few alarming fluctuations seen in CoreCenter.
WCPUCLK doesn't register the fluctuations but I'm not getting BSODs.
1) Open CC. Click on CoreCenter , the program title button.
2) Click User
3) Set the fans on high
4) Click Apply.
Now the Vcore and FSB stabilize.
It appears that C & Q is turned off.
===============================================
It looks like what the other guys have been saying...Don't use CoreCenter except as a reference to help set up other programs like MBM and SpeedFan. Hmmm...RightMarks RM clock also sounds interesting.
Having a quieter system with Cool & Quiet turned on in the BIOS is nice. I'll have to do more testing to see if its stable. If C & Q is still causing instability after raising the CPU VID to 1.525 in the BIOS...I'll leave it off...Cie La Vie.
Later, Conrad

Cool'n'Quiet not working like it should!

Well, I decided to try Cool'n'Quiet to see how much cooler and quieter my system would get. So I enabled it in BIOS and set Windows power management to Minimal, and watched the clock speed and voltage go down as the CPU load went down.
It stopped at about 1.3v and 1800 Mhz. It won't go any further! My friend practically has the same setup except he uses a 3000+ ClawHammer, and his clock speed and voltage decreases much more than mine. I've read that the clock speed should hit 1000 Mhz.
To answer some possible questions, yes, I have installed the latest AMD processor driver and yes, the CPU load is under 10% when I'm checking.
Thanks in advance!

If you install the latest beta BIOS 1.2B12, you will see that CnQ can drop the multiplier down to 5. But some people have seen instability with that BIOS. I have not.

How to disable Cool N Quiet driver when it isnt in the bios or registry for Roxio game capture?

1. HP G60-120 US Notebook PC
2. Windows 7 32-bit
3. No error messages
4. No changes before issue occured.
I was told by Roxio (company of the capture card I bought to record gameplay on my Xbox) to call HP and get my Cool N Quiet driver disabled after I updated my other drivers and still had problems with my capture card. Can somebody tell me where to find it other than in the registry and bios because it is NOT in there and I have looked already more than 5 times or if you know where I can get it remotely disabled. HP cannot remotely disable it because I just talked to them and they don't have the power to do that.

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Originally posted by kensterman
Does Cool n' Quiet need any software for it to work, or does the CPU/Fan slow down automatically? I notice that I have to use MSI's Core Center to activiate Cool n' Quiet. Anyone??
No, Corecenter is almost useless and is NOT needed to "activate" Cool n Quiet. The best it can do is tell you fan speed and temps, and even that is questionable. It will also tell you clock speed but you can get that from right clicking "My Computer" choose Properties, go to General tab, note mhz displayed there. If it is about half of full clock speed for your CPU, then CnQ is working right. If it shows full clock speed, then CoolnQuiet is NOT working and you need to re-read Mr. Woo's original post which gives details about how to enable it.
Next, about fan speed. You have to understand that CnQ does not have anything to do with fan speed directly. Unless you have fan speed control disabled in BIOS, then your fan is going to control as you described whether you have CnQ enabled or not. In BIOS, in the H/W Monitor section, there is a place to enable or disable fan speed control - it's called CPU Smart Temperature Monitor or something like that.
As long as it is enabled and your fan is compatible and hooked up right, the fan will ramp up and down to control temperature. This is independent of CnQ. And it is independent of Corecenter. Disable CnQ and shutdown CoreCenter, the mobo still controls fan speed.

AMD cool n quiet

Can I get some BIOS with AMD Cool n Quiet option enabled?
I get irritate when my A8 5550m cant get higher than 2.1GHz when the CPU can handle even 3.1GHz. I can fix this with restarting only, and it get back to 2.1GHz when I power on my laptop
G405s-7577 users. Thanks.
nb. Sorry for my bad english

64 bit I hope. Go into the device manager and look for the processor. Right click on the processor and choose properties then driver, then driver details. It should say amd processor rather than generic processor. The driver name should have amd in it (amdk8.sys) and not just processor.sys or something generic. For mobile processors the correct name is PowerNow! not Cool 'n Quiet although I cannot recall if the zv5000z actually uses a mobile processor or a desktop processor. I believe it is mobile.

SB Audigy 2 ZS and AMD's Cool'n'Quiet = Incompatib

Hello! Is anyone using these two combines on their machines? If so, then do you have any problems like crashes, blue screens, etc. especially after your computer speeds up overnight of idleness/long slow downs? I seem to have them in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with all updates, latest non-beta Audigy 2 ZS driver, etc. No problems if I disable AMD's Cool'n'Quiet in CMOS. Thank you in advance.

Just for kicks, I decided to install this card on a Dell that I happen to have around.. the specs are above and beyond the configuration of my regular computer (whose specs are above and beyond the specs listed for the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum).. and I am unhappy to report that the same freezing problems occur. I am still unable to use any web update features for ANY of my software, and I am still unable to record in 24 bit audio.

Cool and quiet can't be disable?

Hi, Is it me or cool N quiet can't be disable?
on CPUZ and coretemp i keep seeing my mhz drop, i want to disable it to run overclock test. But it still doing it after i adjust FSB and landed on 3640 mhz. I have read it should be disable.
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