[Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Hi,
I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
My PC is :
-MSI K8T NEO-V
-AMD-64 3200
-Power : 400W
-ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
-1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
-Hercules Digifires 7.1
I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers). Even if all are updated, it freeze.
There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

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See my testing pages starting here:
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I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
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One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
I think you'll be satisfied with the explanation.......
Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
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Super heated air moving through the PSU reduces the cooling ability of the PSU. A hot PSU doesn't produce reliable power.
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so I was wondering what your experience using this card is like with Aperture, even-though it I realize that it is not the current top of the line card ?
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I have noticed a few people on this board have the
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Special Edition (256MB- G5
only) listed on thier specs on the bottom of posts
so I was wondering what your experience using this
card is like with Aperture, even-though it I realize
that it is not the current top of the line card ?
How about a rating from 0 to 5 stars where 5 would be
the best currently available.
I have just the card you mentioned.
I think how happy you'd be with it depends on what kinds of files you are using. I work with TIFF files because my camera is not supported, and performance with those is better than with true RAW files.
I generally do not see much delay but a few adjustmnet tools (Shadows & Highlights & Spot/Patch) can get a bit pokey.
Honestly if I were upgrading my card all over again I would bit the bullet and get the x800XT, which I am mulling over even now... I was hoping it might drop a bit more in price but it does not seem to be doing so.
If you want an absolute rating I guess I'd give it three stars, though again that is with the files that I use. For other larger RAW formats like D2H files and such, I think it's more of a two.
One last thing to note is that I have not tired other raw formats since the update, so it might be upgraded from a two... I was waiting to see what kind of speedup Aperture 1.1 offered in addition to just the system update. I'll report back when that update comes out.

ATI Radeon 9800 PRO openGL Troubles

Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model: PowerMac3,5
CPU Type: PowerPC 60? (1.1)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 2 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1.25 GB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Display
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,R350
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4e48
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A07525-130
I have been looking for someone with the same or similar problem as mine to no avail
Ok so heres my problem...a few months ago i noticed that the screen saver had frozen on my G4 mac
At the time i didn't think anything of it so i try to reboot but it wouldn't get any further than the "Blue" screen after weeks of trouble shooting, reading through logs and surfing what felt like 90% of the net i tracked it down to the "ATI Radeon9700 Extensions" in my system folder.
As you can see from above i have a "ATI Radeon 9800 PRO" and i presume that it runs off the 9700 drivers because there are no 9800 extenstions in the driver updates from ATI....
Anyway this is the strange bit ....if i boot up in "Safe Mode" and delete all the "ATI Radeon9700 Extenstions" below
ATIRadeon9700.kext
ATIRadeon9700DVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin
ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700VADriver.bundle
Then trash...
Extensions.kextcache
Extensions.mkext
Then put a new copy of the "Radeon9700 Extensions" from the 10.4.8 upgrade back in, it boots fine.
These extensions come with the apple OS updates so everytime i upgrade the OS i have to go through the above steps again.
I am starting to think that the openGL capabilities of my card is fooked because the screensaver that im talking about is "Flurry" and it is really jerky now if i try to run it
I know that the SS users openGL
Also if i try and launch UT2k4 i get a crash log error of "unable to create pixel format.
This is what the boot up log looks like before i trash the extensions
13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 962:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 963:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 964:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 965:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 966:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 967:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 968:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 969:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 970:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 971:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 972:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 973:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 974:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 975:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 976:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 977:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 978:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 979:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 980:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 981:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 982:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 983:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 984:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 985:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 986:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 987:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 988:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 989:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 990:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 991:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 992:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 993:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 994:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 995:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 996:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 997:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 998:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 999:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1000:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1001:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1002:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1003:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1004:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1005:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1006:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1007:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1008:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1009:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1010:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1011:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1012:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1013:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1014:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1015:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1016:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1017:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1018:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1019:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1020:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1021:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1022:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1023:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 0xaeba99b7
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x01004e48 4f000207 00000007 20080178
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x13c280a4 c0003a0c 00000002 00000008
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x80000003 0000001f 00002a2a 8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000002 00100000 51b3a220 40000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x60000000 0002000a 0008bbbb 00000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000003 0000444f 10031004
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0:0x000101ce
There was a lot more of this but i dont want to spam the thread
This is the interesting bit...
" Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100"
Any ideas ...please dont just say"Buy a new card" i would really like to get to the bottom of this...if it turns out that my card is fried then fair enough
Quick silver 2002 Mac OS X (10.4.8) processor upgrade to 2Ghz gigadesign 7A</

I'm getting exactlly the same error. This occures after several weeks of sudden & spontaneous shutdowns. And now I get this error whenever I try to launch W.o.W.
Feb 25 07:41:52 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Feb 25 07:41:53 drive-0 kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x80016100
Feb 25 07:42:04 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Now, my card is actually a 9800 Pro. I think it's something to do with OpenGL. I'm gonna try to launch other apps that access OpenGL directly and see what I get.

Ati Radeon 9800 Pro won't start up mac!

I just got this Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB AGP from ebay and installed it promptly but my mac just won't start up!
I tried placing back my existing nvidia card and it booted up fine. Am i being ripped off with a PC version or something? I noticed there's a extra piece of chip to insert from my old nvdia card but not the new ati one.
But i checked on the net and found that the ati radeon 9800 mac cards also do not have that extra chip.
Here's a URL of the card i bought. (http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/da/aa/1988_1.JPG)
Any idea or advice guys? Thanks in advance.

Hi-
The image is just a stock image from ATI, of a 9800 Pro- which one is impossible to tell.
Since you are calling the card a 256mb version, the card is a PC card (unless it,s blue). It was advertised as a Mac card? If so, it has been flashed. BUT, if it is an 8x AGP card, it needs pins #3 and #11 taped to work in your 4x AGP QS. See this article.
Do you have the eBay link to the card that you bought (the listing)?

ATI radeon 9800 pro (256MB)-- Apple 23" HD

ive had this graphics card for a good couple of months, about 6 or so to be exact, a card given to me by a friend who just didnt need it anymore, upgraded to something or other.
now, the issue is that two days ago, it just stopped working. i tried to turn on my comp and it turned on as usual, but the monitor did not. i thought it was the adc to dvi adapter that i bought to use this type of graphics card for such a screen. but it reconnected everything and still nothing. i then finally got my old graphics card, yes i still had it =D, and i tried turning it on with the adapter still connected, simply swapped cards, and the monitor worked. since then ive tried reconnecting because i wanted to make sure the wires are ok but no luck with the radeon 9800 pro (256MB). anyone have any clues what i can do? it doesnt have warranty due to it being somewhat old, friend had it for a while.
annyone have different ways to connect this card? maybe i can try a different method? is there a place i can take this card, to see if it is indeed something wrong with the card and not something with my computer itself acting weird to it? oh and btw i have a powermac G4 (MDD) 1 gig or ram.

Hi,
The card symptoms do indeed sound like it's malfunctioning. If re-seating the card doesn't help, the aux. power is plugged in and the fan is running - that's about it.
Malcolm is right (as usual) about that card only being available for less than 6 months. In addition, it has a 3-year limited warranty from ATI. If it is the 128MB model, it still may be under warranty. I would persue that angle, for sure. ATI info
BTW, what G4 are you running? That would help us in answering further questions.
Regards,
Dave

Will the following ATI Radeon 9800 Pro work on a G4 MDD?

I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 128MB DDR, and I'm wondering if anyone can verify if it will work on a G4 MDD. It was bought for a G5, but that G5 doesn't exist.
Embossed on the front of the card it says:
PN: 109-a14400-01
On the back there are 3 stickers:
1) J53480YRQ74B 603-4070
2) SN + PN: 102A1440103 000009
3) J53480YRQDMA 630-4908
On the metal back-plane it has etched: 805-5422-A
The card has 1 ADC connector with 25V/4A Max written beside it, and one DVI.
Google brings up some hits, but nothing definitive concerning G4 vs G5.
Thanks in advance!

If it looks exactly like this one, including the "teeth" along the bottom, it won't work in any G4.
This card has an "AGP Pro" connector, which gets all of its power through the slot (it has no molex connector).
Even if the card was cut to physically fit in a G4, the AGP slot in a G4 (any model) can not provide enough power for a 9800. It would fry the G4, the card, or both.

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