[Athlon64] TV tuner problems on MSI k8t neo

Hello,
I used TV@nywhere Master. Since beginning it worked.
After graphic card reclamation (MSI GeForce 6800 LE) I tried another graphic cards (at first Legend 64 [1 MB, PCI], later Riva TNT 2 vanta [16 MB, AGP], GeForce 5600 VIVO [128 MB, AGP]). With this Legend graphic card at first my PC beeps for a while, but Windows XP started (even without graphic drivers). I tried another graphic cards (with correct graphic drivers), but since then there was no video on my TV tuner (channels were recognized, sound was possible to hear, but only black screen). I got new GeForce 6800 LE card, but the problem was the same also with this card.
I reinstalled windows XP several times, but always with the same behavior.
Maybe similar as it is mentioned here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=27537.msg158205#msg158205 (TV@nywhere Master sound but only black picture.)
I tested TV tuner at my friend's PC and it worked, so TV tuner is not broken.
So I bought new TV tuner card (Sapphire theatrix 550), but this card was not even detected under Windows device manager.
When I tried to install ATI drivers, I got BSOD and my PC was restarted.
(there was no problem at my friend's PC [athlon xp 2200, nforce 2 chipset])
Is it problem with PCI slots of my motherboard?
My system:
MSI k8t neo (k8t800 chipset)
Athlon 64-3000+
512 MB DDR
MSI GeForce 6800 LE
Windows XP SP2

Just to note:
there was also problem with network (not detected).
Reclamation was necessary.
There was no similar problem with returned motheboard.

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[Athlon64] Electromagnetic Interference on my MSI K8T Neo 2 FIR MBO

I have a system built around a MSI K8T Neo 2 FIR Athlon64 3000+
Recently I've put a poratable TV near the PC (1.5 meters or so) and noticed quite strong interference on VHF TV channels.
First I thought that it came from the case itself, but I discovered that the interference practically dissapeared when I unplugged the PS2 keyboard.
So I thought that it was the keyboard and bought another basic PS2 Logitech one. No difference at all.
Then I bought a USB cheapo keyboard, only to find out that the interference doubled, at least.
I tested the interference with my TV, using the room "antenna", actually a coaxial cable plugged in the antenna socket of the TV with the other emd free, and the central vire just physically clamped with a metallic "crocodile" clamp. A loop on that side and this is the best room antenna money can buy!
I approached the end loop to the keyboard and its cord. I showed an extraordinary amount od unterference. the TV image turned to snow and the sound started hissing.
My guess is that the Keyboard acts like an antenna for the MBO and transmists interference to the outside, probably trought the voltage line.
Or I could have flawed keyboards, but tree... and PS2 AND USB!?
My power supply is not in question. I tried two, high quality ones of different producers - no difference at all.
Anybody had similar interference experience with this or other MSI boards?
Did you succeed to solve it?
I often read that LCD monitors are better for your health because they radiate less, but I tested my old CRT monitor, and it produces much less EM interference than my keyboards!!!
Any Ideas? Bad MBO?

What does that option "spread spectrum" do?
I have Bios 3.3 (I think), I will check if I have this option at all at reboot. I can't remember seeing it?
The interference is not affecting the monitor,which is LCD, but a small TV set, 1.5 meters away from the PC.
IT is not coming from the case (which has no transparent side) but from the keyboard(s) and keyboard wires (both USB and PS2 keyboards produce inteference).
I tested it precisely with a coaxial cable acting like an antenna with a looop at the end and a simple crocodile clamp fixed on the central wire (this produces a very ensitive antenna witch can precisely pinpoint the source of interference. When I approach the loop of he coaxial cable to the keyboard it produces strong "snow" on the TV image and a hissing sound (The TV is set to a local VHF TV station).
So I guess that the keyboard is acting like an antenna , leading interference from the Mainboard out.
I did a little search on the internet and it s amazing how many people with various computers have interference problems from keyboards.
Information comes mainly from radio amateurs who use computers to control sophisticated radio equippment and suffer interference in their reception.
I bet that many people have it and not being radio amateurs or not having a TV near their PC they are not aware of it. Many of you reading this probably have electomagnetic emissions emanating from your keyboards.
But what worries me in this story is that these electromagnetic radiations are not exactly healthy.
I bought a new LCD monitor precisely because I read in many magazines that LCDs radiate less than CRTs. But since it appears that my keaboard is radiating much more than my old CRT, it kind of defeats the purpose...
These things shouldn't happen because computer components, MBOs included, should comply with FCC standards (class B) and a keyboard should not act as an emitting antenna for electromagnetic interference from the mainboard. But it seems that many manufacturers are not really complying with EMI/RFI standards.
This seams to be a very weak point for many computer components, from what I saw on the internet after some Googling.
Some guy even tested all the computer equipment in his company and found out that 90% were not FCC standards compliant, even if they claimed they were !!!
Needless to say that I am not happy, and should it appear that MSI is to blame for my problem, they will hear from me.
I will try some other keyboards, some top of the line this time, made in Germany not in Taiwan. If they produce the same interference, then I will be sure that this is MSI's fault and that the interference is not produced in the keyboard itself but just transmitted to it from the mainboard.

[Athlon64] !URGENT PLEASE! MSI K8T Neo-V + Sempron 2600+ !URGENT PLEASE!

I just bought a MSI K8T Neo-V, a Sempron 2600+ proc, 512 MR DDR 400 and an ATI Radeon 9250. So i'm trying to put all these things together using an old 250W PSU but my computer is not booting at all. Everytime i switch it on it stays on for about 5 seconds and switches off again. Could anybody help me with the matter???
Thanks very much inded.
pedro.

That link does not really say much. What brand is it? I would stay to known good PSU's like Antec, Enermax, Tagan or something like that. I noticed they carry Q-Tec. Do not use those as they are proven to fail.
I wish I could say that is the only problem you have. However we can't tell that until you have appropriate power. These newer rigs all take more power than older computers and while the older stuff ran mostly off 3.3 and 5 volts these newer rigs run almost entirely from the 12v rail. This is why the ATX 12v standard came out for PSU's. This allows the PSU's to meet the needs of these newer rigs. Look at it this way. If you have a big SUV would you try to start it with flashlight batteries?

Problem with MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R

When I boot my computer I get a message invalid boot.ini then it says c:\windows and windows starts normaly. What I don't understand is why do I get invalid boot.ini Anyone knos how to fix this?

I'm sorry for no specs. Here you go
MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R
AMD 64 3000+
2X 512MB 400MHz Ceon CL=2,5
HDD 120GB WD
HDD 4GB SEAGATE
CDR DVD-RW NEC ND3520
CDR SONY
400W POWER SUPLY
primary master CDR DVD-RW
primary slave NONE
secondary master CDR SONY
secondary slave HDD 4GB
and last HDD 120GB on primary raid
NONE on secondary
I have ORIGINAL windows xp with sp2 on 120GB HDD. I bought this computer and they put windows xp on my system.

Card Reader problem with MSI K8T Neo

Hi,
I have the K8T Neo motherboard, and every once and a while my Atech Flash 9 in 1 card reader (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-176-003&depa=0) doesn't power up, thus I can't use it.
What's odd is that all my other USB devices work flawlessly.
The only way I'm able to use the card reader again is to power down my computer and then flip the power switch on the psu, then turn it back on, or unplug the reader from the usb header on the motherboard and plug it back in.
I've noticed other people have had similar issues...
Any ideas what causes this, or any ideas on how to fix this?
Bio Haz

Yes, I had the same hanging problems as well with older BIOS versions then 1.7.
But that isn't the problem I'm talking about, the computer always starts up, it's just a matter if the usb reader will work or not.
Maybe MSI has yet to make a BIOS that is compatible with all card readers.
BioHaz
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Originally posted by me_AMD
...yes, I had USB card reader problems but it caused the computer to hang during POST, and that was fixed with BIOS v1.7...
...I've had what you describe happen on another machine with a Mitsumi card reader/floppy drive combo...not sure what caused it...had to disconnect it and then plug it back in...???...

[Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Hi,
I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
My PC is :
-MSI K8T NEO-V
-AMD-64 3200
-Power : 400W
-ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
-1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
-Hercules Digifires 7.1
I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers). Even if all are updated, it freeze.
There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

Problems with OC in MSI K8T Neo FIS2R!!!

Hi!
I have faced problems when making OC in my Athlon 64 3400+. I do not obtain to increase the FSB for 213Mhz more than without that they occur stopped or reset. I am using 1Gb (2x512) of Ram (Corsair CMX 3200LL PRO).
In the internet many stories exist that chip VIA K8T800 is not good for OC, because the AGP/PCI cannot be stopped with fixed values.
Exists some form to obtain with stability in this Mobo one overclock descent, with FSB of at least 220Mhz? The lack of stability in overclock limits the processor very, what it finishes in forcing to who knows to abandon the K8T Neo, passing to a Mobo that uses Nforce3 250, for example.
If somebody will be able to help with tips to try one overclock for FSB in 220mhz with stability would be very grateful, friends!
my system
Athlon 64 3400+ (cooler venus 12)
MSI K8T Neo FIS2R
1Gb Ram (512x2) Corsair CMX 3200LL PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT 256Mb
120Gb SATA Maxtor 8mb buffer
Audigy 2
420W Thermaltalke
Case Lanfire Thermaltalke
Monitor LG Flatron 17 700P
CD/RW+DVD
LAN (adsl 400k) + Fax Moden (56k)

Take your sata drive off and you can overclock higher. There is no PCI/AGP lock so the speeds are affecting your sata drive. 210 mhz. system clock is about the limit before the sata drives start to act up.
The problem is with that particular VIA chipset. No way around it has been found to work in a practical manner.

[Athlon64] MSI K8T Neo FSR / Early Chipset Initialization

Hi There,
My MSI K8N Neo Platinum has a broken LAN interface, i don't have the papers of it so I can't send it for RMA. So i bought a MSI K8T Neo FSR.
But there is a problem, when i power up the system, the fans are spinning, the hard disk spins up and the CDRW/DVDROM drives are working. The only thing the system does is hanging at the "Early Chipset Initialization" state accoding to the D-Bracket.
- Tried an other VGA Card > No result (Radeon 9200, Club3D)
- Bought other memory (I do have 1GB now , but still no result)
- Tried resetting the BIOS > No result
- Tried removing the RAM, the system beeps there's no RAM in the system, but when i put it back in the system wouldn't boot again.
- Tried to boot up only with R9200, CPU and RAM, and still it won't work.
- Tried to boot outside the case, but still no result.
I tried my processor, memory, PSU and vga card (6800LE) back in my K8N system and it works great, so i don't think my PSU is too weak.
And I aint thinking that my motherboard is broke, it still beeps without memory in it.
I am getting really confused, i'm out of money now so i can't buy some new stuff.
Anyone ideas?
Specs in signature. (PSU 18A @ 12V), sorry for my bad english.

Quote from: fafner on 03-May-05, 20:55:16
Why don't you get a PCI network card for the K8N system? No need to fuss around with a new mb just to get a LAN connection.
Don't want to use PCI-Cards
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Have you tried removing the RAM and then doing a Bios reset? Sometimes things get sticky if the RAM is still in place during a Bios reset.
I would also unplug anything that is not entirely needed to boot so you can simplify the problem.
Another hint. As the RAM controller is inside the CPU the system will not do anything right without RAM. The CPU will imediately hang.
Just tried a BIOS reset without RAM in the system, the system won't boot. Only the CPU, VGA card and the memory is placed. Only the 4pin 12v and the 20 pin is connected.
It just won't work, maybe the board is dead?

[Athlon64] MSI K8T Neo FIS2R BIOS Update when? CnQ no workie!

The MSI K8T Neo FIS2R (MS-6702) hasn't had a BIOS update since 3-4-2005!
I put a Sempron 64 3000+ in my motherboard, and was very disappointed that it is recognized as an "AMD Unknown Processor". Sure, it works, but one of the reasons I bought it is in the hopes of getting AMD Cool n Quiet to work. However, apparently the AMD driver can't recognize the CPU due to the old BIOS on the motherboard.
Every other MSI skt 754 board supports Sempron E6 revision already. Why not the K8T Neo FIS2R? Where have all the MSI BIOS programmers gone? I have been waiting 2-months for a BIOS update to support the E6 Semprons. I have asked and begged MSI Tech Support. I am tempted to switch to ASUS or some other company that is actually timely with BIOS updates. Only reason I haven't yet, is this board is everything I want EXCEPT for Cool n Quiet not working. It's starting to look like there is no BIOS update in sight, so I am very disappointed.
Anyone here work for MSI can confirm there are no plans for a BIOS update? Because I don't want to wait around for something that's not going to happen.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I thought the mods here are MSI staff... I was just kind of hoping there's MSI staff lurking here, seeing what people think of their products or seeing what people complain about.
No, pretty much C 'n Q is the only reason I'm disappointed, but it was something I was really set on getting to work since this is a server that's up 24/7, but isn't utilized but maybe 4hrs out of a given day. I could reduce frequency and voltage, but unlike C 'n Q, it won't automatically increase speed and voltage based on demand - which is something I want since although it's a server, I also use it as a regular PC as well.
I've even tried the 2.33 beta BIOS with no change, and even found a 5.52 BIOS in their BIOS testing directory. I guess that BIOS was for a different kind of 6702, although I had pulled out the peripheral modules with AMI's MMTOOL and they looked the same as the existing BIOS, but that BIOS killed my motherboard so it couldn't have been for a regular 6702. I had to desolder the BIOS chip with a heat gun, reprogram the old BIOS back on it with an EPROM programmer, and solder in a socket. I guess that shows my dedication to get C 'n Q working!

MSI K8T Neo 2 FISR Memory problems....

Could someone please help me
I have a MSI K8T Neo 2 mobo, with 500w powersupply, AMD 64 3500+, and 4 sticks of 512mb PC3200 ram (not all installed).
2 of my sticks were bought from PC world as PC3200 DDR400 ram.
The other 2 are Nanya 512mb PC3200 DDR400 ram.
I ONLY NEED TO USE 2 OF THESE STICKS.
This motherboard was chosen so that i could run DUAL channel.
However when running memory in slots 1 and 3 as manual suggests, the pc crashes when playing games. If i run 1 stick in slot 1 it happily runs all day long.
I have tried running memory in slots 1 and 2 but only making a frequency of 157.1mhz. See screenshot of CPU-Z:
MY MEMORY CONFIG
Surely this should be 200Mhz?
Basically i can only make 200mhz using a single stick and no joy with dual channel.

Don't know if this will help
You probably already know about this......

AMD64 3200 + MSI K8T Neo FISR2 memory problem

I've had one KVR400X64C25/512 and it have worked like a charm. Now I've bought another one (total 1gb).
When I've inserted it and start the computer I only get the CoreCell logo scren, it do not boot correctly.
AMIBIOS is version 3.21a
I've tried the following:
* run only the new memory [works]
* run only the old memory [works]
* DIMM1 + DIMM3 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM1 + DIMM2 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM2 + DIMM3 [only a black screen]
what should I do?

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 22-August-05, 21:48:12
A PSU is rated to run at +/-5% and that is well within it's rating. As for wether ists big enough there is no way we can say as you still did not give full system specs.
If it won't run with the third stick of RAM then pull it out for the moment and see if the system will boot again. If it does then during post you will see a Bios version listed. That board only supports Bios versions to 2.2 at the moment so please also list what actuall Bios version you have.
Ok, have booted with one instead of two sticks (one works, two don't, do not have three sticks)..
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2 released 030405. The autodetect settings (at startup): Clock = 400Mhz, CAS 2.5 which seems correct.
More info:
AMD64 3200
MSI K8T Neo FISR2
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2
Seagate 120GB SATA (no ides)
CD rw + DVD-r combo drive
floppy drive
Saphire GF6800 (no GT or Ultra)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
that's whats running in it

Msi k8t neo fis2r xp install problem

I tried to install xp on my sata drive..i downloaded the raid drivers and put them on a floppy, it accepts the raid drivers (im not trying to use raid, just regular sata), and i select the hard drive and attempt to install to it, but the files from my xp cd keep saying something about invalid image has been installed to your hard disk (or a similar message to that)
also part of the time the comp will not boot properly, it will just beep on and hang and nothing will show to the monitor, or if i have a disc in my cdrom when i try to turn it on it wont turn on, but then when i take out the disc and reboot the comp it turns on again..no clue what might be going on..
my specs are
a64 3000+
512 mushkin special 2-2-2-5 cas 2.0 ram
80gb WD SATA 8mb cache HD
radeon 9800 pro (sapphire)
MSI K8T NEO FIS2R
sparkle 400 watt power supply

You better get something like an Enermax 465 for your rigg, as yours:
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Output: [email protected]/28A,+5V@40/28.5A,[email protected],+12V@15A,[email protected],+5VSB@2A
Could blow to pieces any minute now....
15A @ 12V is way too light.....
The Enermax has 33 of them

Msi k8t neo fis2r odd post issues

well, i went over to a friends house, pulled out his ram..put in in my computer..it posted and boot to windows..perfectly..
so then i go into the bios and up the voltage..so that i can put my old ram back in..it stopped responding when i updated the bios becuase it set the voltage back down to default..so..
i put my ram back in once the voltage is set to 2.75 v and it booted a few times perfectly..i unhooked everything and came home..well
now i try to boot the pc and once again it will not boot? is it possible that the cmos got cleared when i unplugged the pc???
i know my ram isnt bad..i ran it on a friends system while playing games for hours..this motherboard is driving me insane..someone really dropped the ball when they made these..so many issues with having to fool around with voltages etc..cant even get the damn system to post if the voltage isnt up and even then sometimes it seems to not want to ..its crazy..
i know none of my components are NOT broken because ive stresssed them all fully in other peoples computers..
if anyone has any clue as to how i can get this thing to post to get back in the bios plz reply..im at wits end
my system specs are
athlon 64 3000+
512mb mushkin special 2-2-2 ram (i will change the timings to the recommended slightly delayed timings but i have to actually get into the bios to make this possible)
msi k8t neo fis2r bios 1.4

Southmike is sooooooooo right on that one. I see a lot of folks running stuff on other computers with + results and then nothing on the Athlon64 - equipped systems. Well, I think it's O.K. to a certain point, at least to find out if an item is not defunct. But, most of the problems are RAM and PSU related. After that, I believe the BIOS is the biggest issue. And I think some of our forum readers don't actually understand the settings they mess with. I for one, do not fully understand a few of them myself! That is why it's important to make changes in BIOS one at a time.....if you are not as experienced as a lot of folks here at the forum are.

MSI K8T Neo FIS2R- Corsair Twinx XMS4000

Two weeks ago I have bought one MSI K8T Neo FIS2R with an AMD Athlon64 3200+.So far I used the computer with one DIMM of 256MB DDR PC2100 memory. This morning I have installed in the motherboard a pair of CORSAIR TWINX XMS4000 which comprises of two DIMMs of 512MB DDR 500MHz memory.
The computer did never worked again. As soon as I have turned it on, although the whole system got power the screen was blank and the motherboard did not boot. Moreover, the D-Led system of the motherboard has all its leds red which according to the manual means that the processor is probably damaged.I have never overclocked my system and before install the memory it worked perfect. I have disconnected the whole computer but the problem still exists. Can you advise me what I have to do to fix it? What is the cause of the problem? Is there any way so that I can fix it?

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Originally posted by karinio
Two weeks ago I have bought one MSI K8T Neo FIS2R with an AMD Athlon64 3200+.So far I used the computer with one DIMM of 256MB DDR PC2100 memory. This morning I have installed in the motherboard a pair of CORSAIR TWINX XMS4000 which comprises of two DIMMs of 512MB DDR 500MHz memory.
The computer did never worked again. As soon as I have turned it on, although the whole system got power the screen was blank and the motherboard did not boot. Moreover, the D-Led system of the motherboard has all its leds red which according to the manual means that the processor is probably damaged.I have never overclocked my system and before install the memory it worked perfect. I have disconnected the whole computer but the problem still exists. Can you advise me what I have to do to fix it? What is the cause of the problem? Is there any way so that I can fix it?
Hi dude i had identical problem, bought i extra stick 512 400 ddr and the system wont start. Make sure your motheoard support the made of ram. In my case Asus did not support corsaire. Also it could be the slots which are damage.
bye

[Athlon64] TV tuner problems on MSI k8t neo

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