ATi 4870 in boot camp?

The fact that the Mac Pro is getting the 3870 at the same time as windows gets the 4870 is a joke, however, I was wondering if it would be possible to leave in the 2600 for OSX and throw in a 4870 to use in boot camp Windows? If this is a feasible option then I would be interested in upgrading back to Mac.

Agreed...
I had two 8800GT's in my MacPro (3.0GHz) which worked fine (individually) in both OSX, and Vista64. (Ubuntu's X11 config is another story!)
But now, I have an XFX GTX280 in slot 1 and an one of the 8800GTs in slot 2.
To do this, I had to rewire one of the supplied 8800GT PCIe power connectors, because they use a smaller, scaled-down version of the 6-pin PCIe cable connector that connects to the MP mobo. I showed my PC buddy who builds PC Audio workstations for a living, and he's never seem them before...
Gee, thanx Apple for not using standard modular PSU PCIe connectors on the MP mobo!!
Keeping the scaled-down connector end, (obviously) I wired onto it a 6+2 PCIe connector to drive the GTX280 as it requires (like the new 4870) 1 x 6-pin and also 1x8-pin PCIe power connectors. So both the MP PCIe power connectors coming from the mobo are powering the GTX280.
This site is an excellent description of the 6+2 PCIe connector that included power diagrams for the 6, 6+2 and 8 pin PCIe Connectors. Infact if you need to make your own "anything" power cable, this site is I keep coming back to...
http://www.playtool.com/pages/psucon...onnectors.html
Why use a 6+2 pin PCIe power connector and not the 8-pin PCIe connector? Cos now I can revert back to having 2x 6-pin connectors anytime I need to put the 2nd 8800GT back in...
My rewiring wasn't pretty, but it gets the job done. So much for the MP having a nice cable free mobo feel about it...
So, Given that I used up the 2 6-pin cables from the MP's mobo, to get power to the 8800GT, I used the XFX GTX280's supplied 6-pin PCIe to 2-Molex connector and sourced power from the 2 optical molexes that power the optical drives.
Consequently, I don't have the optical drive connected at the moment, but I want to do more testing before I use a molex splitter.
Given that the 2 video cards are never used for 3D gaming simultaneously, I'm already confident the MP PSU is coping well with the power requirements. (1200W is what I've read elsewhere!! )
So, Assuming no OSX drivers for the 4870. (any word of OSX drivers for the 4870 yet?)
If one were to install one 4870 in a MP for Windows, some splicing-and-dicing would be needed (like above) if you wanted to use a 3870/4870 as well for OSX.
Note: Holding down option to choose what to boot from via EFI is not possible unless I have the 8800GT installed. The GTX280 is not displaying anything on screen when in EFI.
With my DELL 24" monitor connected to the GTX280, the Dell's LED on the front is not aware/powering-up/receiving-signal etc etc either.
The GTX280 was bought for an Nvidia mobo that can do 3-way SLI so I'm still hoping that 2x 3870s in crossfire is not going to be the fastest and best option for Windows gaming on a MacPro, AND while still have the use of the video cards in OSX.

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