ATI 5970 in a 2010 Mac Pro?

Seen a little about this, also have seen some people put them in older Mac Pros.
I am guessing the 5970 needs a 6 and 8 pin power adapters.
Anyone done this? Does it work?
Thanks

If you have seen this done, it wasn't here but likely on MacRumors.
http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1

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