ATI 8x AGP

First off, this is what i'm running.
MSI K7N2 delta-L
Amd xp 2600+ @2.1ghz (10.5x200)
512 pc3200 ddr
Ati Radeon 9700 pro
Whenever I run the video card at 8x agp it will crash out of anything 3d in 5 seconds flat. I jump it down to 4x and it's fine.
I've seen that alot of other people have had this problem with msi boards and i guess msi hates ati.
I would like to run the video card that I spend a load of money on at its full potential.
Besides that, this board rocks.
Does anyone know when i can expect a fix (driver or bios) for this, or does anyone know a way to get this thing to run stabaly at 8x?
Thanks.

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Originally posted by andovers1
NV2000
As ridgerunner stated this is not a problem exclusive to MSI, it is a problem with many NVIDIA Chipsets. I\'m running a ATI Radeon 9700 at 8x with no problems other then the common boot problem that you read about on the forum. I could also fix that if I wanted to flash back to Bios 3.3.
What type of memory are you using? Do you have any IRQ conflicts? What type of PSU are you using? ATI cards are power hungry!
Listen, you don't know the situation. And I don't have an Ati, I have a FX5800!!! You know this card??? :P
Wonkanoby knows about it,MSI knows about it (and they promised a fix for it)

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[snipped]
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