ATI AIW 8500DV slow on KT3 Ultra2

Imagine my suprise when I discovered my new Athlon2000/ATI8500 system was much slower than my old P2-400/GeForce2MX when playing Microsoft Motocross Madness. I discovered my ATI AGP card will not run at AGP 1X, 2X or 4X, no matter what I set the BIOS for. Performance is extremely slow. I have the latest drivers for video, AGP, bios, etc. I stripped the motherboard down to just the CPU, RAM, AGP video card, keyboard and mouse (no other cards or devices are installed in the PC).
Moved ATI card to old P2/400. Card ran at AGP 2X (top speed for motherboard) -- thus the ATI card appears to function fine. Installed an old GeForce2 card in the MSI motherboard, and it ran at APG 2x (card's limit).
Is there a known issue with the ATI All-in-Wonder 8500DV in a MSI KT3 Ultra 2 motherboard?
Configuration: MSI KT3 Ultra 2 motherboard, single 512 MB DIMM Kingston ValueRAM PC2700 (333DDR) running at 166 MHz, Athlon 2000XP running 133 FSB, ATI All-in-Wonder 8500 DV with latest drivers as of January 2, 2003. Windows 2000 Pro
The MasterOfGoingFaster - ( 8) motocross, that is...)

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Originally posted by wonkanoby
what via 4 in 1 drivers are you using
I downloaded the latest versions as of Jan 2, 2003. I don't recall the version number (I'm at work, PC at home).
All drivers for the MB and video were downloaded Jan 2, 2003 -- just a few weeks ago...

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Originally posted by maesus
You have to clear the CMOS, and 100% make sure it's really cleared. ie, removing battery, discharge all capacitors on the board (with power off and power cord attached for 5 minutes), unplug power cord, set the CMOS jumper to reset for couple of minutes... etc
Yes, I have done all of that.

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I think if it does it again I will disable CPU fan monitoring in the bios.
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I just bought MSI KT3 ULTRA2 -Sound Motherboard
and for the RAM, I want to buy:
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(for detail of the RAM, please read at: http://www.toshiba.com/taec/components/Datasheet/THMD1GE0SBxx-010702.pdf )
Do you guys know if that RAM is supported by MSI KT3 ULTRA2?
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Mother Board : MSI KT3 Ultra2
Processor: AMD Athlon 1800+ XP
HDD : Western Union wb1000 100 gigs 7200
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CASE: any suggestion?
Cooler: suggestion?
CD-R: 48x16x48 Asus
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KT3 Ultra2-R

I'm having problems getting my cpu to register its true clock speed. I just bought a MSI KT3 Ultra2-R w/ Athlon XP 2000+.
I am getting 1.25 Ghz and am only able to get it to run at a FSB speed of 100Mhz.
When I push it to 133Mhz the system crashes, and I have to reset the BIOS and start over again. I tried the CPU in another and got the same results!
Here's what else I've done - and all still to no avail:
- Removed heatsink, remounted (tried different H.S. - same prob.
- Took cpu to store where I bought it, and it worked fine on theirs - so its not the cpu.
- Have 2 mem sticks - took each one out, put them in 1 at a time- still same prob.
Temp in bios is 114F.
Im at a loss...............
Any Ideas?
Specs: 512MB PC2100
ATI Radeon 64MB
SB Live 5.1
Thanks.

Hi hal 302
I have exactly the same problem with my KT3 Ultra.
I believe, that my Ram is O.K. because I can let it run on 333 Mhz while running 100 Mhz fsb rock stable.
For a couple of weeks everything was fine at 133 FSB... until
I was trying to set Ram timing to faster settings including SLIGHT voltage increase at Ram and CPU.
From that day on I can not set FSB to 133MHz any more.
This really annoys me.
I am suspecting a broken Mainboard.
btw. I described my problem to MSI Support and they replied: Check Ram. Check CPU {which I have done} if all is O.K. send in your Mainboard. {no word of my power supply}
My SYS:
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KingMax DDR 333 256 MB
PowerMan 300 W Power supply
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PROBLEM: (story has 2 very exciting parts)
Part 1: When start using apps with intencive accellerated graphics, the computer gives a blank screen and hangs there forewer. After a while, monitor goes into powersaving mode.
Ex.: After passing the 1st, low-res (truck) test on Sysmark2001 successfully, sysmark happily and consistently hangs on the hi-res (truck) test.
Part 2 (More Interesting part): After the computer goes into blank screen (explained above), I push "reset" button and get:
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- several beeps (8 or 9). It is hard to say how many beeps; they all a short and first one is Very abrupt.
- The "D-"-whatever lights show code for "Testing RTC (Real Time Clock)"
- same thing happening no matter how many times I press reset. I have to unplug the computer for a while to make it boot normally.
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MSI KT3 Ultra2 mobo
Athlon 1800+ CPU
PowerColor Radeon 8500 based 128meg AGP video card.
No-name manufacturer 256mb PC2100 DDR RAM sticks
No-name manufacturer 400W PSU
all my other cards were removed for/while troubleshooting.
THINGS TRIED:
Since the "issue" continues after reboot, I immediately rule out the software problems. (though I did reinstall windows and tried other/newer chipset and video drivers for the heck of it)
- used 1 other memory chip (different brand) (no help)
- Used the Video card and memory in other computers (work fine)
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- updated bios (no help)
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THINGS DID NOT TRY:
(I do not have unlimited budget, you know..)
- Another brand of accellerated video card (what is the point? I like my Radeon8500-128mb and it works with other boards. If KT3 is incompatible, screw KT3)
- Did not try another PSU (Do not have any better than the one I have.) If it is a problem, I do not mind buying a new one. But, is IT the problem?
- What else did I not try? You tell me.
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Thenk you guys for such a prompt response
Let me address your questions/comments
> (maesus) Did you try - Load BIOS Setup Default
Yeah, I tried that.
> (maesus) do not overclock, everything goes default
I am a heat, noise and temperature control freak. I never overclock. I am more likely to underclock than overclock. Incidentally, I did try to underclock the FSB and memory to 100Mhz in order to see if the problem goes away. - It does not go away.
> (maesus) Update VIA 4-in-1 drivers to 4.43v and ATI Catalyst to 2.3
I tried Via 4-in-1 v 4.43, 4.41. I tried Catalyst 2.3 and 2.2. As for trying older drivers, my philosophy is the following: If the board makes me downgrade drivers and features in order to be functional, I get rid of the board, not the features. Downgrading Via 4-in-1 does not make much of a difference. Downgrading Catalyst further brings performance and features down significantly enough.
> (maesus) My suggestion to the AGP Driving signals is EA.
Thanks for the suggested value. It is so hard to find things like this. I looked all over the net and PowerColor groups to find values that work, and found none that match my system. I did try this value, though. I keep a list of values that usually work for me, and EA is one of them. Nothing from my list worked.
As a side-note, setting AGP to bellow 4x usually makes Driving Value setting irrelevant. On my previous boards, I would set AGP to 2x and Driv Value to Auto - the board would usually work OK. With KT3 though, The problem consistently happens even at AGP 1x.
> (maesus) Please try another more powerful PSU, borrow first before you buy
I will try this later in the week.
> (hjongste) You may need to clear CMOS first. Sometimes there is more to it than just shorting the jumpers. Read my page on this.
That is a neat site you have! I will try your suggestion later in the week. Right now the board is back in the box.

KT3 Ultra2 stuck on Initializing Hard Drive Controller

AMD Athlon 2200
KT3 Ultra 2
Antec 400W
Maxtor 60G
512
I put the machine together and it does not display anything. On the D Bracket it shows 2 red 2 green "Initializing Hard Drive Controller". I have depopulated motherboard all the way down to just one stick of Ram, One hard drive the bare necessities. It still doesnt work. Swapped hard drives, video cards and Ram. Measured voltages for power supply. Rebuilt it twice from ground up. Reset CMOS. Still same thing. It shows the 2 red 2 green as soon as I turn it on, doesnt seem to be running any POST tests.
Any suggestions? :O

I am a 17 year old high school student who has put together a total of 12 machines. There are a couple of issues I would like to address:
1. Every PC I built was based around SOCKETA platform and EVERY board was an MSI.
2. I just finished building two machines around the KT3 Ultra-2 board (I am typing on now), have given the one to my uncle and aunt. NO PROBLEMS. XP2100 512 PC2700 Two 30Gb Maxtors RAID0 Saphire Radeon 9000 Pro 128mb DDR.... No trouble. They went together in about 45 minutes... I have hauled mine (I kept one for me - yippee!!) up to my cabin and back again... never ever failing...
3. I understand everyone's frustration in this issue, for it is DEFINETELY an issue, BUT, MSI I can guarantee is working out the solution and they stand behind their products. I was having trouble with an Nforce based board. Sent it back, got a new one in 4 days... That has been my only trouble MY ONLY TROUBLE. And on top of it, I later learn that it was my fault. I was the one who grounded mysterious pin 9 on the USB header... It was how the case came set up---you know with the front USB ports...
4. I also know that MSI's boards are the most stable I've seen . I've helped other students with home built PC's who use Gigabyte, ASUS, Abit, ECS... and I've seen trouble with all of them.
5. Stick with it. Don't give up. Get your board and if need be your proc. replaced, and move on. This board is worth it. It is so nice. I have had my machine on for two weeks straight. Running XP PRO. Nothing but solid.
6. WHY DOES EVERYONE BLAME EVERYTHING ON THE PSU??? I have used cheap-o 300W generic supplies (granted, I have never owned or set-up a GF4) but plain and simply put, I have not had any stable problems with MSI boards and cheap power supplies. MSI does an excellent job with their power stabilization portion of the board, and design their boards around imperfect voltages. Nothing is perfect. "30 amps", that's rediculous.
Anyway, I hope that I have changed a few minds about MSI and their boards, and that you will take the time to get your problem resolved. If you do, you will do just like me, and return to MSI for all of your computing mainboard needs.
-AlwayzAMD
MAXTOP case - ALLIED 350w ATX
MSI KT3 Ultra2
512Mb PC2700 DDR Ram (Samsung)
AMD Athlon XP 2100
Saphire ATI Radeon 9000 PRO 128mb
Thermaltake VOLCANO 7 HSF
2 92mm Case fans
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Lite-on 48x24x48 Burner
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Okey once again problem with this board!
I decided to upgrade the comp a bit.
From Barton XP2500+ to Barton XP3000+
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I need the FSB to be 166MHz(x2=333MHz) for the Barton to run at the proper speed, I have never been able to get the multiplier to work, probably cause the CPU is locked.
Now the newly bought PC3200 refuses to run at a lower speed then 200MHz(x2=400MHz), No matter what I do, User settings, set SPD to HCLOCK. Dosn't matter. As soon as I insert a third DIMM, a PC2700 they obey my rules and works fine at 333MHz, but this board, cant handle 3 DIMMs at 333MHz, running MEMtest86, phat chance.
Using one of the PC3200 with the PC2700 works fine.
Using the second PC3200 with the PC2700 works fine.
But I cant set it up to work with only the two PC3200 cause they wont run at 333MHz, and I cant have all 3 DIMMs cause the board gives me the finger.
Ive also tried using one of the PC3200 and two PC2700, same thing, 3 DIMMs dosnt work.
So my question is, how can I force my PC3200 to run on 166MHz(x2=333MHz)?
Mainboard MSI KT3-Ultra2 (6380E ver1.0 with BIOS 5.7)
CPU AMD Barton XP3000+ (333MHz version)
Graphic-card Powercolor ATI Radeon 9800 PRO (No OC atm)
PSU Chieftec (HPC-360-202) 340W, 5V 35A, 3.3V 28A, 12V 17A.
Whole bunch of memories that pass the test when set up properly
4x512MB DDR PC3200 TwinMOS (matched 2 and 2)
2x256MB DDR PC2700 Nanya (matched)
1x256MB DDR PC2700 KVM

Frobe, lets be clear about this. Your rig ran fine with the set up which you described namely 2500 barton and 3x256mb pc2700 Ram. Is that correct?.
You now upgraded to xp3000 (in you sig you say xp3200) and are now using 2 sticks of pc3200 ram. Is this now correct?
With the new cpu and ram your rigs posts and works but you say that your new memory is detected at 400. Where is this showing 400 are you looking in the Bios and it shows HClck+33? Or is this by way of some software utility.
This board can only handle 333 mem by default, I have pc3200 mem in my pc (see my sig) and the bios runs it at HClck speed. There is no Hclck+33 option available.
This board is fussy about all 3 ram slots being used slots 1&3 work best as slots 1 & 2 share the MA channel to the northbridge whereas slot 3 uses the MB channel.
Try Running Fast command at 'Normal' (in advanced chipset>dram control) if you are not already.
You should have no trouble whatsoever running an xp3000 (333) together with pc3200 memory as described. The only reason I have only 1 stick of 512mb in my pc is that I dual boot with windows 98se and it does not work (with98) otherwise have run 1gb of ram with no issues.
What I would also suggest is that you clear the bios and check the clear nvram in the bios as well as follow Fredrik Åsenius advise namely to change the mem from spd to user.
Hope this helps

KT3 Ultra2 (MS6380E v1.0) and XP2800

I am at my wits end.
I had a MS-6380E board running fine with an XP1900.
Since upgrading to an XP2800 (which according to the MSI site is supported) I can’t get my system stable except by setting the FSB to 100 in BIOS. As I understand it, it should be set at 166. However, every time I attempt to set it at that value (or indeed any higher than about 125) the system shuts down (powers off) within a minute of booting up.
Consequently the CPU is running slow – about 1.25Ghz. If I increase the FSB to 166 the boot screen recognizes that it is running an XP2800 processor but I then have the instability problems described above.
I have tried everything I can think of. The BIOS (5.7) and motherboard drivers are all up to date. The fan tests fine. I went out and brought a new power supply (specs below) believing it would solve the problem (previously using a 350W PSU). It hasn’t even improved things. Maybe I need more power, but I would have thought that what I have bought is ample.
My system:
Codegen 450W ATX2.03(P4) Model 450x; 3.3V/25A, 5V/35A, 12V/16A (235W Max)
MSI KT3 Ultra2 MS-6380E v1.0
Athlon Barton XP2800 OPGA 1.65V 85C 512k 333MHz
2 * 256Mb 3200 Kingston (400)
MSI MS-StarForce GeForce4 MX 420 (NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420)
Creative SB Live! Series (WDM)
IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller
ST320420A and WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 HDDs
LITEON DVD-ROM LTD165H, LITEON CD-RW LTR-40125S
FDD
CanoScan LiDE 20/N670U/N676U
HP Laserjet 1000 series
SoftV92 56k Data Fax Modem
Logitech Cordless MX Duo keyboard and mouse
Win XP Pro
I hope this information is adequate. Unfortunately I am only semi-computer literate.

"...2 * 256Mb 3200 Kingston (400)..." I really don't know for sure, but think Bios update (5.7) didn't change the Mobo's memory support, so, the max. speed supported should be PC 2700 (running 1:1 with CPU speed). You were running the old CPU with same memory ? At what speed ? Try with only 1 module to see if it works. Or if you can, try a PC 2700 memory to see if it works. Also agree with Wonka about P.S. Codegen are really not good. You must have in mind that this Mobo takes most of it's power from 3.3 and 5v. rails and the 3.3v. 25 A. isn't good for a pretty loaded PC as yours. But you say it runs for a minute or so, then also you could have a temp. problem as said by Toenne. Is HS seated OK ? (Not 180 degrees upside down and with only a drop of thermal grease, and is it strong enough for the job ? )

Problems with KT3 Ultra2 and Barton 2500+

I have a very big problem.
I buy new Athlon XP2500+ ty my board.
KT3 Ultra2 support 166FBS, but AGP and PCI bus is overclock (83/42) and my system is very instabile. Now using 133FBS. Can I fix bus to 166/66/33???
My configuration:
Win98SE+WinXPSP1
MSI KT3 Ultra2 (bios version 5.7)
Athlon 2500+@1900+ (Barton 11*133, 1,65V)
+ Spire 5F271B1L3 FalconRock II™
256MB RAM DDR-400 Kingmax (CL2 at 333, 1.7V*)- sorry I mean 2.7V*
Daytona ATI Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
SB Live! Value
AMD 10/100 LAN adapter
40GB Seagate HDD
Lite-on combo
FDD teac
add: 4 april 2004 at 15:17
My PSU is Emko 300W ''JS-300 P4''parametres in:http://www.emko.cz/emko_cz/index.html
1900+ temps: CPU: Chipset:2500+ temps: CPU: Chipset:At 2500+
Stability configuration si withount SB Live! value and LAN.
result: Memtest86 - O.K.
3DMark2001SE build330 - O.K.
SiSoft Sandra 2003 - O.K.(burn-in: CPU and memory test 20time)

what sandra version did you use?
next to temps and psu, please tell us, what bios is installed. barton cpus require version 5.7
"(CL2 at 333, 1.7V)" did you mean 2.7V? cause 1.7V are llittle too low.
sj

ATI AIW 8500DV slow on KT3 Ultra2

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