Ati card on nvidia chipset board?

Would my ati 9700pro work on the;
MSI K8N NEO Platinum skt 754 800FSB nforce3 +7.1 ch.audio +SATA RAID +USB2 +F/Wire (up to DDR400) +GigaBit LAN
whilst i wait b4 i upgrade my video card to 6800 gt?
zippy

My 9800pro works great with this board so the 9700pro should be fine as well. But take note to what Xee said, if your into online gaming. Another thing to be sure and do is... when your ready to switch from ati to an nvidia card make sure that you clear your old drivers out 100%. Dont just uninstall the old ones; rather, use a program to clean things up or you may have tons of problems with your new nvidia card. Ive seen it before.

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Motion 3 with new iMac 2.8 - ATI card or Nvidia GeForce card?

I'm considering a new iMac 24" 2.8 penyrn and am wondering if Motion 3 performance would benefit significantly by upgrading the stock card? My options are:
1. ATI Radeon HD2600 Pro w/256MB (stock)
2. Nvidia GeForce 8800 GS w/512MB (upgrade)
The upgrade card is +$135. I've seen on other posts that the ATI is better for 2D applications and the Nvidia for 3D. I've been running Motion 2 so I've never utilized its 3D capabilities.
Any input appreciated.
Jeff
Message was edited by: Jeff Morgan1

Thanks! I've been trying to ascertain whether Motion 3 will run at all on the new 2.8 iMacs. I was at the Apple Store over the weekend and they had it installed on Mac Pros and MacBook Pros... Not on the iMacs, though. I'm upgrading from Motion 2 on a Powerbook G4. Was NOT impressed with how Motion 3 ran on the MacBook Pro (2.5) they had in the store.
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Anyone have an ATI card that can confirm if QuickTime H2.64 works?

Can anyone that has an ATI card (not nVidia) running on Windows XP and DirectX 9 confirm that QuickTime movies encoded in H.264 play inside a browser without crashing the browser?
For me and many others, QuickTime movies that are encoded in H.264 and embedded into web pages are crashing the browser when trying to view. I am trying to determine if my nVidia card (nVidia drivers) are the source of the problem or if it is DirectX 9 or just simply the latest QuickTime version.
Also, is there anyone with an nVidia card on Windows Vista (DirectX 10) that can confirm if QuickTime H.264 movies work inside browsers?

I should know by Saturday when I install Nvidia 8600 GTS under x64 version how it works - though I must say that everything I've been reading doesn't convince me it is a wise idea to install QuickTime under Vista x64 just yet. :-<

CS5 cannot support nVidia and ATI cards in same machine?

Until recently, I was operating fine with a Radeon HD 5750 on dual monitors. I wanted to add and utilize a third monitor (had some trouble with the DisplayPort output), so I just stuck in an off the shelf nVidia 8400 card.
With the latest drivers on both, and both using OpenGL 3.2, CS5 seems to just freak out. (The issue seems to be OpenGL centric.)
Photoshop x86 just crashes while loading.
Photoshop x64 will load, but it immediately reports that my cards do not support OpenGL acceleration and disables it. It otherwise seems to work fine.
After Effects will sort of run, but some strange things crash while it's loading (like gpu_sniffer.exe). It crashes all the time during RAM previews, now, and the option to accelerate the GUI (or previews) with OpenGL is disabled. So, while it's use-able, it's slow.
Premiere Pro absolutely refuses to start. I cannot even get a splash screen.
(The other apps I do not use much.)
I've gone back to dual monitor for now on the Radeon card (problems resolved with disabling the nVidia card), but do the CS5 apps really have that much trouble with two video cards with different chipsets? Is there something I am forgetting to do? I am not asking any of the apps to utilize the third monitor, so I cannot fathom what the issue is. Again, the OpenGL version is the same on both cards...and both cards have the latest drivers (both from November).
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction or let me know what I should do to enable the nVidia card to peacefully co-exist and still be able to use OpenGL with the CS5 apps.
Thanks for your help.
Machine specs:
* P43-based ASUS motherboard
* Intel Core2Quad (each core at 2.8Ghz)
* Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)
* 16 GB DDR3 RAM
* ATI Radeon HD 5750 (1GB)
* nVidia 8400 GS (512MB)
* CS5 Master Collection

It's not that the apps don't support mixed cards - but that the OpenGL drivers for the cards do not work well together.
Even mixing different models of cards from the same vendor can run into problems when using OpenGL.
Some apps have made mixed cards work - by using one GPU and completely ignoring the rest.
We've talked to the GPU vendors to see about improving the situation, but, well, they're competitors.

ATI videocard for a 550 NVidia chipset mainboard ??

Hi there,
I have an MSI K9N Neo-F mainboard (550 nVidia chipset) and an MSI 7600GT video card. I decided I wanted to upgrade the video card for my 3D gaming (first-person shooters). After deliberating on what card to get, an nVidia 8800GT or ATI HD3870, I decided to get 3870 on the grounds of better image quality (a 10% less framerate was not important for me) and just because I wanted to try ATI.
So I got the 3870 card. The image quality noticeably improved (e.g. in Team Fortress 2), however the performance of the card did not seem to be as good as it was with 7600GT. Now, the frame constantly tears, so that I had to enable VSync. With VSync, the frame does not tear anymore, however I can see that the framerate slowered, so that I can feel it (jerky movements etc). With the settings, the card should be blasting at the framerates of around 100 fps !
A thought occured to me: was that detrimental for the performance of my computer system that I got an ATI card for the mainboard with an nVidia chipset ? Should I have got an nVidia video card instead on those grounds ?

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 18-March-08, 19:17:27
It doesn't matter. You can use what VGA you like (ATI or Nvidia).
Get Driver Sweeper,(http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=driversweeper) and remove currently VGA Drivers(Both Nvidia and ATI). Do that in "Safe Mode".
Reboot PC,
Install DirectX Release - March 2008: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=114542.msg865914#msg865914
then download latest Catalyst from ATI and install them: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
Reinstall your game too, then re-try.
Thanks for letting me know. I discovered that the ATI driver/Catalyst Control Center (CCC) is unreliable. First, I installed CCC, but got no sound. Then I played with the settings (not changing anything really), rebooted the computer, and got the system sound (but still no sound in Windows applications such as game or Player). Then I played with settings again (not changing anything by the end of the day), and rebooted the computer. Now I got sound everywhere I wanted it. I do not know what happened.
Secondly, last night I tried to enable VSync in CCC and in-game (I got massive "tearing"). It did not work. I played with the settings around, uninstalled the CCC 7.11 and installed ATI Tray Tools (ATT). I enabled VSync via ATT, but it did not work. I uninstalled ATT, and installed the latest CCC from the link you gave (CCC 8.3). For some reason, I could now enable VSync (from within game). "Tearing" disappeared.
I do not appreciate what is happening. ATI provides a good picture quality (and that's why I chose it), however the drivers and work with them are unpolished. For me, having a polished product is a major reason why I get the product.
Now, few seconds after booting the computer into Windows, CCC crashed. I restarted it, and ran the benchmark "Aquamark 3D". After few minites, it crashed. An error window popped up saying that "the program could not read from or write to the address XXXX". This surprised me. I never got errors like this with nVidia Control Panel, or generally with nVidia drivers (their nTune often could not work, though).
My plan now is to uninstall CCC and .Net 2.0 it comes with; after that, I will install ATT and see if I get crashes.
As for getting a new PSU. It looks like so far I do not have the problems associated with underpowering the PC (like shutdown of PC). I will monitor for such symptoms and for symptoms of overheating the current PSU; in this case, I will get a new, more powerful PSU.

Nvidia card giving me same trouble as Ati card

Okay, originally I was using a Radeon 9500 Pro video card. The problem was that anything OGL accelerated completely froze my system; I couldn't run glxgears without it freezing. I tried and tried and tried to find a solution to the problem, using the open source drivers v. proprietary ones, minimal xorg.conf files, whatever. Nothing worked. Same symptoms on Ubuntu and Arch. Since I was dual booting with Windows, I tried the card on Windows; it worked fine with any 3d application (I even tried Planet Penguin Racer so I could use the same game on each OS. Windows could handle it, Linux froze as soon as the game booted up everytime.)
So I ordered an Nvidia 6200 to hopefully remedy the problem because I assumed it was a video driver problem. I installed the card, pacman'd the nvidia drivers, generated a xorg.conf and rebooted. I made it to the desktop and typed glxinfo into the console. I had direct rendering and everything seemed to be okay. I ran glxgears. 1600fps, 1600fps, 1600fps... boom, my computer went back to KDM. Uh oh. I logged back in and ran glxgears again, except this time it hard froze JUST LIKE my Ati card. Big uh oh. I powered down and powered back on (because alt-ctrl-backspace couldn't kill X) and logged in again. I tried to watch a video file, and it rebooted my machine. At least my Ati card let me do that safely. I tried again just to double check myself, and sure enough my computer FROZE again, it didn't just reboot. Now here I am, out of options.
Obviously there is something wrong with my machine somewhere, whether it be buried deep within Linux or my motherboard or god knows where else. What I want to know is how I can diagnose this problem? I'm not going back to Windows, there are too many reasons for me to stay in Linux (most are for development reasons as I'm a CS major, but the media applications are way better in Linux too.)
In summary, is there anything I can do to remedy or diagnose my problem? This is very frustrating... I can't afford a new computer to 'start over' and buy hardware that I KNOW is compatible.
Edit/Update: I reinstalled my Ati card because I'm going to RMA the Nvidia one. I've got a working xorg.conf file (at least, it can connect to the Xserver). However, it always freezes when I load KDE, before it even makes it past that loading bar and to the desktop. I don't know what causes it, but I do know that I can run TWM without it crashing AND I have direct rendering. Any ideas how I can remedy this?
Here is the xorg.conf, btw. Just in case.
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Driver "fglrx"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Radeon 9500 Pro"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
Last edited by The Orange Peanut (2008-04-08 21:51:43)

I had this on my desktop - I had switched from ATI to NVIDIA and as a result, all my 3d/videos kept freezing or crashing - turns out it was a conflict with the libGL libraries. I had some wrongly-linked files left over.
You could try removing mesa (which shouldn't be on your system), and reinstalling the nvidia driver, and checking the system for any stray libGL.so.* libraries.

Upgrade MacPro1,1 with ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512 MB and Open GL 1.7.7. to recommended system requirements for heli simulator: OpenGL Version 2.1 compatible 3D-graphics card from NVIDIA or ATI with 512MB.

I want to install a helicopter simulator into my MacPro1,1 with ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512 MB and Open GL 1.7.7. Recommended system requirements for the heli simulator are: OpenGL Version 2.1 compatible 3D-graphics card from NVIDIA or ATI with 512MB (at least as fast as NVIDIA 8600, 9400 or ATI Radeon HD 2400). Is there such a graphics card available that will work in my Mac Pro?

Are you really still running 10.6.3? you will need 10.6.5+ so do that and make a clone.
ATI 5770 from Apple Store - like 1000s of others have done and in the comments section on the store page.

My MSI Board and ATI Cards

I have been looking into upgrading my Video Card and I am very much looking at one of the higher-end ATI Radeaon cards. But I also hear some complaints concerning my board and the ATI cards, with respect to the AGP slot and the whole 4x/8x issue. Can somone tell me what ATI board, if any, will work with my board with no issues?
Or am I being forced t ostay ith GeForce Boards?
I currently have the 1.80 BIOS for my board.
Thanks

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Official statement from MSI :
KT4 Ultra was tested OK with ATI Radeon 9700 in MSI lab.
Some applications incorrectly detected the card as AGP2x. (refer to [1] knowing that this board only supports AGP4x and AGP8x). ATI addresses this issue here. Other tools like PowerStrip correctly shown AGP8x.
Detail discussions were taken place here. The current workaround is :
* do not install or uninstall any VIA AGP drivers, including those in VIA 4-in-1 drivers.
Thanks to everyone contributed to the KT4 vs Radeon 9700 thread.
We assume Radeon 9700 Pro, 9700, 9500 Pro and 9500 should work flawlessly with KT4 Ultra as virtually no complain report against these products at the moment.
I saw this in the Forum Troubleshooting FAQ. I was Planning on getting a 9700 PRO or later card. Has anynone had any issues with that card?

Hp 15-r033tx laptop does not show the Nvidia chipset information and only uses Intel HD graphics

My Hp 15 r033tx laptop has windows 8 64 bit installed in it and as it comes with NVidia Ge Force 820 M 2GB graphics card , I have also installed Nvidia and Intel HD Graphic Drivers but in the dxdiag selection it does not list the Nvidia Chipset and information but only lists Intel HD Graphics with 1786 MB.
Also it does not show any Dedicated Video Ram that is normally showing in my other friends desktop with Nvidia Graphics properly installed
Any solutions?

Hi @Suraj2410 ,
Thank you for your inquiry, I will do my best to help.
I see that you have Windows 8 installed and are not seeing your switchable graphics.
When I checked the specification page I see it came with Free Dos. When I checked for support drivers they are listed for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.
HP 15-r033tx Notebook PC specifications
HP 15-r033tx Notebook PC Drivers
Here are three document to assist you with overcoming this difficulty.
Resolving Video and Graphics Issues
Overview of Switchable Graphics or Dual GPUs
Switchable Graphics on Notebooks Configured with Intel and ATI GPUs
If you are still having difficulties, with it being a recent purchase, I suggest contacting HP support for assistance.
Please call our technical support at 800-474-6836. If you live outside of the US/Canada Region, please click the link below to get the support number for your region. Phone Assist Worldwide
Sparkles1
I work on behalf of HP
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Fresh Win7 install S410 won't reconise ATI card

Hi,
I recently purchased an S410 and installed Windows 7, I've installed all the drivers and everything works fine except the ATI graphics card.
I have installed the correct drivers from this site but I can't figure out how to get the computer to use the card.
In the device manager there is a yellow flag by the ATI card and the ATI catalyst control centre has no option, jsut a webpage. (Looks like this: http://imgur.com/kYkJN8q ) Now I may be wrong but on previous computers it had more options.
I'm at a loss now as to how to get my computer to use the TI card, so if anyone has any suggestions they would be extremely welcome.
As a second issue the intel graphics chipset drivers won't install, instead I get this message at the end of installation:
"This computer does not meet the mim=nimum requirements for installing this software"

Disable GDM and see if you can boot into the basic system.
As the IG and BG suggest, it's best to reboot just after installing the basic system. When it comes time to install X, take baby steps, testing and rebooting as necessary.

ATI card image on display at restart

Maybe someone else has seen this.
The machine has a ATI 9800 128 from ATI. The card has been replaced by ATI for various reasons other than this.
This last replacement card works perfect untill I have to do a software update that requires me to do a restart. On restart I get a card image of the card with the external power leads to the molex connector blinking red and the OS does not load.
I checked the voltage on the connector and all of the voltages are there and are right on spec. The fan on the card is running.
If I shut the machine down and power up the next day everything is ok untill the next restart.
The machine has no issues with the OEM ATI 9000 card even on restart.
ATI says its an Apple problem.
Apple says the machine has no issues with the OEM ATI card. (Will not test the machine with the updated ATI 9800 128 card)
Does anyone know what card image of the card with the external power leads to the molex connector blinking red really means?

Supposed to mean a lack of good/clean +12VDC at the molex connector or could be flaky components in the DC-DC conversion on the board( ie bad voltage regulator or capacitors ).

ATI Primary and Nvidia Secondary for Hardware MPE Acceleration

Hi everyone,
I'm not sure if this has been discovered yet. I think it is very exciting, and very important for anyone with an AMD (ATI) GPU who wants hardware MPE acceleration.
It is possible to use Hardware MPE acceleration while using an ATI video card as your primary adapter, and a lesser CUDA Nvidia GPU as a secondary adapter not connected to any monitor.
My system:
CPU: 1090T
Mobo: 890GX
RAM: 8 1333
RAID: No
GPU1: 5870
GPU2: GTS 450
As you can see, I have a Nvidia and AMD GPU in the same system. The 5870 is obviously by far the most powerful of the two, and it is what I use to record rendered footage using FRAPS.
Recently, I became aware of the powers of hardware MPE. I concluded that the best way to obtain HMPE and maintain my FRAPS recording was to purchase a GTX 480. However, this was out of my wallets league as I could not sell the 5870.
I was already aware that PhysX (A CUDA physics calculation library) could only be run on Nvidia CUDA GPUs (Like HMPE). Many Nvidia card users used secondary CUDA cards to accelerate physics calculation in games. ATI card users could not use a secondary Nvidia card for physics calculation as the Nvidia driver locked down PhysX in the presence of an active ATI GPU. Luckily a clever fellow called GenL managed to hack the Nvidia drivers to force PhysX to work in the presence of an ATI GPU.
I hypothesised that if I performed that hack, HMPE would gain access to CUDA in a similar fashion to PhysX, thus allowing me to buy a far cheaper GTS 450 and pair it as an HMPE renderer with my 5870. After buying a GTS 450, I failed at implementing the hack and was about to give up.
HMPE worked when my monitor was connected to the GTS 450, but if i tried to start PPro with the 5870 connected to any monitor HMPE was unavailable.
I had two monitors connected to my GTS 450, and was playing around with adding stupid amounts of HMPE accelerated effects to an AVCHD clip. Realising that it was impractical to constantly switch the DVI cable from 5870 to GTS 450 I decided to leave my primary monitor connected to the 5870 and give up on HMPE. So, I reached around behind my computer and did it, but crucially did not quit PPro before I did so.
When the screen flickered back to life, the yellow HMPE preview bar was still yellow. The timeline still scrubbed perfectly smoothly. HMPE was still working with a 5870 as the primary monitor: The PPro window was on the 5870 monitor, and the 5870 was rendering the window!
I found that provided I did not close PPro, I could switch between HMPE and SMPE at will, all while using the 5870 as the primary adapter.
I tested this using a 10 second composition of 3 AVCHD 1920x1080 Clips with CC, drop shadow, gaussian blur, edge feather, Basic 3D, transform, Ultra Key, drop shadow applied, rotatating amongst each other. I could still switch even if the 5870 was the only card connected to a monitor.
Rendering this test clip via PPro direct export takes 30 seconds in HMPE mode with the 5870 and 1.43 in SMPE mode with the 5870.
However: Rendering performance in AME stays the same whether I selected HMPE or SMPE. I believe this is because AME is a separate application that 're-detects' the ATI card and disables HMPE before beginning the encode, in the same manner that restarting PPro while using the 5870 removes the HMPE option. Rendering the clip in SMPE and HMPE modes using the GTS 450 gave the same 30 second vs 1.43 minute result.
Therefore, as long as you are happy to encode via direct PPro export you will still see the benefit of HMPE while using an AMD card as the primary adapter.
I hope this is as terribly excited to other users of ATI cards as it was for me. This has saved me several hundred dollars.
Cheers,
NS2HD

Interesting results. I own a system manufactured by BOXX, a system developer out of Texas who really knows their stuff. I had asked them if it would be possible to purchase a CUDA enabled card and put it in my secondary slot and use it for MPE while maintaining my current (nvidia) card to run my monitors (also giving me the ability to run four screens). They said that no, according to the Adobe developers they were working with, Premiere could only use MPE off the CUDA card if the monitor previewing your work was plugged into that card. I guess they were wrong!
Also, from my understanding, you don't see lesser results with AME because it's a separate program that starts separately, you see the lesser results because it has not yet been coded to take advantage of CUDA.

HW acceleration problem with ATI cards

Hello all. This is my first post here
I have noticed the following issue/problem and would like your feedback about it.
We have a lot of intel macs here at the office (15 macs).
Most of them are intel imacs using ATI graphics.
We also have an intel macmini with a nvidia 9400 graphics card, a macbook pro 17inch, core 2 duo with nvidia graphics etc.
My personal macs are:
1) a macpro 1.1 (upgraded to 2.1) with (upgraded) 2 x5365 xeon cpus @ 3ghz (8 core machine), 10GB ram, ΑΤΙ HD 4870 1GB, INTEL 80GB G2 SSD ...
2) an imac 2.93Ghz i7 27inch, with 16GB RAM and an ATI 5xxx card (i do not remember the exact model, i think it is the 5770 card as a successor to the 4850 card).
I have noticed the following issue on ALL the macs i have access to: whichever mac runs nvidia card, irrespective of the specification of both the nvidia card and its cpu, has hw acceleration working properly when browsing the web.
For example, if i visit these links:
http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Default.html
and i run the respective test on any of the macs we have here equipped with an ATI card i get slow frame rates, ie. on my macpro, with a dual monitor setup 2560x1600 (apple 30inch) and 1680x1050 (apple cinema display) i get 20s FPS when running the tests and this is only when using safari.
The same applies when running these tests on my imac i7 as well as on all other macs that are running ATI hardware.
On the contrary if i run the tests on a mac which is equipped with a nvidia card i get (depending on how old the hardware is) 50+ or even 60+ FPS.
I do know that things are complicated with hw acceleration on OS X Lion and in particular when browsing the internet (partially working hw acceleration) but why the difference between ATI and NVIDIA?
All drivers .kext files are original and not patched.
When running benchmarks, the results appear on par with similar systems.
Of course all of our macs are running OS X Lion, latest version with latest updates installed.
Also cleared safari cache (by manually deleting the cache.db file as well), disabled all of the plug-ins, installed latest version of adobe flash, to no avail.
I just want to know why there is different hw acceleration behaviour when running a NVIDIA instead of an ATI card on OS X LION.
From a practical perspective i think this is why sometimes when i browse the web i have excessively cpu utilization even on powerful systems (i7, 8core macpro etc) running ATI hardware.
Please excuse my English, it is not my main language

UPDATE:
After reading here http://betanews.com/2012/02/10/google-releases-chrome-18-beta-get-it-now/
i just tried the Google Chrome Beta v 18.0.1025.11 and i saw a dramatic difference. On a 2560x1600 screen i am now getting on this test (http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/ ) approximately 40+ FPS. Nevertheless my question still stands: why people with NVIDIA cards on a mac do not have this problem?

Nvidia based board for AMD Phenom X4 9550

Hi,
I want to build system for AMD Phenom X4 9550 ( or 9750)
I am thinking about this MSI board
MSI K9N2GM-FD GeForce 8200 (MCP78S)
This has
- AM2+ support (required for Phenom)
- DVI-D port
- DDR2 800 support up to 8GB
- NVIDIA chipset that probably has support for Linux and Solaris
What does it mean by HT3.0 (5200MT/s) when max RAM speed is 800?
I want to put
RAM : DDR2 800 4GB (2GB x 2 or 1GB x 4)
LCD monitor : 22" (22" Viewable), 1680 x 1050 (Maximum Resolution)
there is K9N2GM-FIH but I really do not want HDMI (and buy HDMI-DVI converter).
I do not need SLI.
I want best utilization of CPU power , RAM speed and disk IO speed.
there are lot of Motherboards supporting AM2+ cpus
http://global.msi.com.tw/html/popup/MB/AM2/page_e.html
what would be best motherboard for me?
has anyone tried Linux and Solaris on K9N2GM-FD ?
- Surinder

Also, where do I get Thermal Design Power (TDP) information about MSI motherboards.
Your best guide there is to look at the CPU support list for the motherboard and look at the max TDP of the CPUs in the list. For example the one you are asking about shows 125W CPUs are supported.
You can have a look >> here << also.

Snow Leopard and ATI cards

I have a 800 MHz RAM bus mac pro (a 2008 model). It shipped with an ATI Radeon 2600XT graphics card (and OSX Leopard 10.5). I then upgraded to a SECOND graphics card which is the NVIDIA 8800GT. With Leopard OS the two cards played nicely together.
However, after upgrading to 10.6 the ATI card no longer works properly.
booting 10.6 in 64 bit kernel (the default) with the ATI card installed is un-successful (with the ATI card in the machine, it WILL NOT BOOT.)
My suspicion is that the ATI firmware does not support the 64bit kernel because when I boot the mac pro in 32 bit kernel mode the machine boots and the ATI card is recognized (displayed in system profiler: BUT DOES NOT OUTPUT VIDEO!) When reverting and booting from 10.5 (anyway a 32bit kernel system) the machine boots EXTREMELY SLOW and the ATI card is visible BUT NOT USABLE. When shutting down the computer (in verbose mode) I get about 12 screens of ATI debugging codes before the machine powers off (this all flies by very very quickly).
I see on the apple support downloads an updater called:
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT Firmware Update
HOWEVER, the installer will not let me install this update even when I do get my machine booted in Leopard with the card installed, because it tells me I need the Leopard Graphics Update (it's a 10.5.8 system...) ***?
when i completely remove the NVIDIA card from the computer and attempt to ONLY use the ATI card, nothing works. NADA.
Is my only chance to get 4 video outputs from this machine to buy a second 8800GT?
I know that the ATI card is not fried, but that there is a driver or firmware problem. how can I fix this issue? thanks in advance,
|K<

ATI 2600XT is an iffy card.
Early shipped models of that card had a firmware update, newer cards were 'fixed' and didn't need the firmware update. Firmware only seemed to make its fans run more and be louder and was annoying.
A lot of things happened with 10.6.4 and graphics. Even video out issue. Some have downgraded to 10.6.3.
There are 4 other options also:
GT120 is cheap and fine
8800GT is EOL and ebay only, and look for "2nd generation Apple Mac Pro"
ATI 4870 or wait to see if Apple comes out with 5800s
Nvidia GTX 285 ($450)
Some cards require 2 power connectors, the GT120 does not need any.
Wait for 10.6.5+ or downgrade to 10.6.3 and see how that works
Mac Pro 2008 required an EFI on graphics cards to work with the UEFI/EFI64 so I am unsure that the card or its BIOS is an issue... but haven't seen much of that.
10.5.2 era there was a Leopard Graphics 1.0 update that was rolled into 10.5.3.
I'd ditch and get the GT120 or wait and see if GT3xx.

Ati card on nvidia chipset board?

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