ATI Radeon 9600 XT & SyncMaster 305T - problems

Hi everyone - I just purchased a 30" Samsung SyncMaster 305T and have been trying to get it to run properly. I have a Dual 1.8 GHz G5 with the ATI Radeon 9600 XT card. The largest resolution it's allowing me to set on the monitor preferences window is 1280x800 (ideally i'd like the option for 2560 x 1600). Anyone know if there's any incompatibility issues with this monitor/graphics card combo? Please help.... otherwise, i'll have to either return the monitor or buy a new graphics card. Soooooo bummed. =[ Thank you in advance!

Welcome to the forums, Rabidart!
First off, you're probably better off starting a new topic for your question, since this one is marked as "answered" and many folks won't see your new question at the bottom.
But since I'm already here...
Secondly, I notice that you're running Leopard. I'd recommend staying away from the ATI cards if you're powering a 30" on a G5. For an explanation, check out this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1195747&start=0&tstart=0
You have two options: deal with the inherent ATI issues until Apple or ATI/AMD address them, or get a compatible nVidia GEForce AGP card with Dual-Link DVI. There are many on eBay, and a few users in the thread listed above have installed them with a 100% success rate (so far).
By the way, a replacement card, once you find one, is VERY easy to install. Retail packages will include instructions, and many of the sellers on eBay include instructions with theirs.
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Das Problem ist gefunden. Der Mac wurde 2003 gekauft, und wie viele von dieser Serie waren Motherboard fehlerhaft. Ich habe 2 davon. Die Motherboards waren dann 2004 ausgetauscht zu unterschiedlichen Zeiten. Der 1. in April andere November. Dann war alles scheintbar O.K.
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ES WAR MOTHERBOARD DIE FEHLERHAFT IST. In 2. G5 von 2003 geht die Karte einfach wunderbar. Ich hofe das Ich damit helfe den Tausenden da draussen die gleiche Problem haben vor allem in Apple forum, und keiner hat Lösung.
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ATINDRV.kext
ATITVOut.kext
ATIRadeon.kext
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ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin
ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700VADriver.bundle
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ATIRNDRV.kext
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My solution for this moment is only this one. If I know my solution from Apple, ATI or another one look sometimes on
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Steve should get the Solved Green Star...
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i have a 1st generate Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHZ / with Radeon 9600 Pro
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<http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3170810>
ATI Radeon® 9600 Pro PC & MAC Edition RoHS 256MB AGP (one single-link, one dual-link DVI)
<http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3170809>

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