ATI Radeon 9700 Pro - Power Supply too small?

I'm having a problem with my Powercolor 9700 Radeon Pro. My system will simply not power when i plug this video card in (no power supply start, no posting beeps, nothing).
The 9700 pro card I have will work fine on another PC that I have with a lesser power supply and lesser cpu so I know the card is ok. My Geforce3 card works fine in the new 865PE computer, so it seems the MSI board/AGP slot is ok.
I've tried unplugging all peripherals (HDDs, CD, DVD drives) and still no power up when the 9700 is plugged into the power supply.
My system consist of:
MSI 865PE Neo2 FISR(v1.7)
P4, 2.8, 800fsb
512MB Corsair XMS Twinx (2 256MB sticks)
2 HDD (Western Digital, 60 & 120GB)
DVD/CD drive
CD-RW drive
Soundblaster live
2 internal case fans
360w PS
Stats for power supply:
+5v - 35A
+12v - 17A
+3.3v - 28A
Bios settings:
CPU BUS (FSB) - 200
AGP Voltage - 1.5
PCI/AGP speed (PCI clock) - 66.33/33.33
PCI latency timer - 32
AGP setting - (if this is the 4x/8x setting, I can't find a way to change it)
APIC ACPI SCI IRQ - disabled
AGP aperature - 64MB
Dynamic overclocking - off
Performance mode - slow
hyperthreading - disabled
I've tried upping the AGP voltage to 1.6 and I have disabled cacheing.
I read that some folks have recommended setting the AGP down to 4x, although for the life of me, I cannot find a way to do that in bios or anywhere else.
Does this power supply sound acceptable? Do the 9700's draw their power off the 12v circuit? If this PS is weak, then what +12v amp. should I aim for?
Does anyone have any ideas of any of issues that might cause my system to not power up like this?
Thanks for any help!

Thanks for responding Sean,
I did try upping the AGP voltage to 1.6v while only having the the 9700 card attached to the power supply. Same result, no power-up what so ever.
The other computer's video drivers are were the standard windows vga drivers. I don't think that really is a problem since I can't get the computer/power supply to even come on, let alone load windows.
What baffles me is that I have a geforce3 agp card that works fine in the neo2, and the 9700 works fine in another computer. Other then the power supply, or a problem/setting with the mainboard, I can't imagine what the problem is. The thing is, I don't want to shell out $100 for a power supply until I know that'll fix it.
thanks

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Ouch,
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What I would try next is what some users have done as a possible workaround...It looks like the radeon 9700 on the MSI KT4 likes HIGH mobo fsb - so you might want to try unlocking your 1800 and run at 10.5x166 or lower multiplier with a 166fsb...
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Put your ram on SPD setting in the bios when you start bumping that fsb....
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Here

K7N2 Delta-ILSR - Radeon 9700 pro - no power.

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The Radeon mostly worked for over a year, [trouble booting cold] now it does'nt. [not with my MSI]
The card works with my old board, LEX BN790E via KT266A, 512mb, AMD XP1700+ and all extras.
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This is my first time posting to these discussion group... I've been going through related threads and have not found an answer to my problem...
I have a Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 G4. Awhile ago I upgraded the processor to a Sonnet 1.8ghz so I could run Leopard.
I just bough the ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x video card. I researched around and that seemed to be a card that would work in my machine. I even read a review on Amazon where someone had also upgraded to the 1.8 processor used this card with no issues.
I do have an older monitor - Apple Studio Display CRT with the ADC connector. So I also bought the Apple DVI to ADC adapter kit.
I installed the card and do not get any picture at all - I believe I have installed everything correctly. I'm pretty sure I can hear the fan on the video card in the machine. The monitor is getting power from the adapter since the button lights up when I press it - but it does not stay lit -- the monitor never turns on. Using my old graphics card the monitor makes a little "beep" when it turns on.
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In looking at the topics here I came across the link about taping the 3 and 11 pins on the video card. Even though the card I have is 4x/2x not 8x I thought I'd give it a shot. That did not work either.
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
Within reason, the early G4's (Sawtooths) are capable of using the Radeon 9800 Pro. The GE has the same 338w PSU as the DA (they are interchangeable), so there is plenty of power for the 9800.
One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
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Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
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Reducing heat/increasing cooling by using a third party fan on the 9800 is highly recommended. The 9800 is a hot card, and the stock fan is prone to early failure.
Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
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Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model: PowerMac3,5
CPU Type: PowerPC 60? (1.1)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 2 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1.25 GB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Display
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,R350
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4e48
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A07525-130
I have been looking for someone with the same or similar problem as mine to no avail
Ok so heres my problem...a few months ago i noticed that the screen saver had frozen on my G4 mac
At the time i didn't think anything of it so i try to reboot but it wouldn't get any further than the "Blue" screen after weeks of trouble shooting, reading through logs and surfing what felt like 90% of the net i tracked it down to the "ATI Radeon9700 Extensions" in my system folder.
As you can see from above i have a "ATI Radeon 9800 PRO" and i presume that it runs off the 9700 drivers because there are no 9800 extenstions in the driver updates from ATI....
Anyway this is the strange bit ....if i boot up in "Safe Mode" and delete all the "ATI Radeon9700 Extenstions" below
ATIRadeon9700.kext
ATIRadeon9700DVDDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin
ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeon9700VADriver.bundle
Then trash...
Extensions.kextcache
Extensions.mkext
Then put a new copy of the "Radeon9700 Extensions" from the 10.4.8 upgrade back in, it boots fine.
These extensions come with the apple OS updates so everytime i upgrade the OS i have to go through the above steps again.
I am starting to think that the openGL capabilities of my card is fooked because the screensaver that im talking about is "Flurry" and it is really jerky now if i try to run it
I know that the SS users openGL
Also if i try and launch UT2k4 i get a crash log error of "unable to create pixel format.
This is what the boot up log looks like before i trash the extensions
13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 962:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 963:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 964:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 965:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 966:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 967:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 968:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 969:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 970:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 971:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 972:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 973:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 974:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 975:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 976:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 977:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 978:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 979:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 980:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 981:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 982:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 983:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 984:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 985:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 986:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 987:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 988:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 989:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 990:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 991:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 992:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 993:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 994:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 995:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 996:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 997:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 998:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 999:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1000:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1001:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1002:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1003:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1004:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1005:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1006:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1007:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1008:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1009:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1010:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1011:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1012:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1013:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1014:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1015:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1016:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1017:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1018:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1019:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1020:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1021:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1022:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1023:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 0xaeba99b7
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x01004e48 4f000207 00000007 20080178
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x13c280a4 c0003a0c 00000002 00000008
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x80000003 0000001f 00002a2a 8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000002 00100000 51b3a220 40000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x60000000 0002000a 0008bbbb 00000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000003 0000444f 10031004
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0:0x000101ce
There was a lot more of this but i dont want to spam the thread
This is the interesting bit...
" Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100"
Any ideas ...please dont just say"Buy a new card" i would really like to get to the bottom of this...if it turns out that my card is fried then fair enough
Quick silver 2002 Mac OS X (10.4.8) processor upgrade to 2Ghz gigadesign 7A</

I'm getting exactlly the same error. This occures after several weeks of sudden & spontaneous shutdowns. And now I get this error whenever I try to launch W.o.W.
Feb 25 07:41:52 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Feb 25 07:41:53 drive-0 kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x80016100
Feb 25 07:42:04 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Now, my card is actually a 9800 Pro. I think it's something to do with OpenGL. I'm gonna try to launch other apps that access OpenGL directly and see what I get.

Can I replace an ATI RADEON 9800 PRO-(256MB)-MAC EDITION with Mac ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb Video Card For G4/G5

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I am trying to help a friend whose graphics card has bust.
The old one was an ATI RADEON 9800 PRO-(256MB)-MAC EDITION.
I've been looking on ebay and it seems a lot cheaper to get a Mac ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb Video Card For G4/G5.
Can I just swap them over? The connectors are not identical according to the photographs.
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I'd like to thank everyone for all the really useful information in this thread. It helped me solve a similar problem, which I'll describe here briefly in case it helps someone else.
I have a 2004/5 dual 2 Ghz PowerPC G5 and an Apple Cinema HD display linked, as I later found out, with the now defunct ADC connector. The display suddenly started to look like that scene in The Matrix, when code falls like rain down the screen, and I worked out I needed to replace my Radeon 9800 pro video card (I discovered the board was blue when I removed a thick layer of dust).
I took japamac's excellent advice and bought a Geforce 6800 Ultra from the linked eBay seller in Hong Kong, who delivered it extremely quickly, along with the cables to plug it into the DVD drive power source and a CD with installation instructions. It was only then that I realised the card had two DVI connectors and my display needed ADC (I hadn't understood the difference).
eBay came to the rescue again with a seller who had a secondhand DVI to ADC adapter, which Apple produced when it phased out ADC about six years ago but no longer sells. It has its own power supply and looks like a large version of the Mac laptop power cables - and has added signifcantly to the pile of spaghetti under my desk.
Installing the Geforce 6800 Ultra is fiddly, and a bit scary if you're not used to delving into the insides of a Mac, but the instructions were clear and illustrated with useful photos. The video cable has four connectors. Two fit into the end of the card, the other two (linked in a Y shape) form a bridge between the DVD/superdrive and its power cable. You have to remove the DVD drive, unplug it, and then plug one of the two Y video card connectors into the DVD power cable and the other into the DVD drive itself. Then you replace the DVD drive, plug the two remaining cable connectors to the video card and ease it into the old card's AGP slot.
Finally, with the G5 reassembled, plug the adapter's DVI connection into the back of the card, plug the Cinema Display ADC cable into the adapter block, plug the adapter's USB cable into the G5 (this enables the the USB ports on the back of the display to work), and power up.
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Quote
Originally posted by Rob454
Hi,
What are your rails on your power supply.
+12v, 3.3, and 5v.
12 v = 17 A
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5 v = 32 A
3.3 & 5 = 185 W ?(
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AIW Radeon 9700 Pro card no work

I just put together this sytem:
Dual Opteron 242 (1.6ghz)
MSI 580 Master2
3 sticks Samsung 512 MB ECC Registered PC3200 400Mhz DDR
All in Wonder Radeon 9700 Pro
Antec 550 Watt TruePower:
+5V 40A
+12V 24A
+3.3V 32A
-5V .5A
-12V 1.0A
+5 SB 2.0A
At this point i turn on the computer and the fans go on but then the power is cut - I think by the power supply. After a while I realized how to at least keep the computer running - I unplugged the Radeon's REQUIRED power supply (via HD..CD.. etc power cord) and it worked, problem is video card wont work without that power.... So um what do i do.
Card worked on my former Abit comp which I have used for over a year....

Im going to shift this thread to memory, the All in wonder is not the problem, and the boot-up problem MSI knows about but has resisted to fix it probably because they dont know how, a workaround is to hotplug the power adapter in which is not the best or safest way but its the only way. My new case doesnt have a PC speaker for some reason so i ran a wire from a PC speaker to it... I get continous long beeps... sounds like memory problem, I've tried Samsung 266mhz 2700 (worked in my old comp), and what i want to use, PC3200 Samsung 400mhz. Both are ECC registered.
I have 3 sticks 512MB... they go in DIMM's 1 2 and 3 correct? And you only push down until the clips snap in correct? I've tried just one stick of both types in all 4 different DIMM's, same end, I tried no memory, same result.

Can I use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition 128MB Video Card in a Mac Min

Looking to buy a Mac mini.
In 2004 I upgraded the graphics card in my dual processor 450 MHz G4 desktop with an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition 128MB Video Card to run a 20-inch Cinema Display.
Now my G4 has died (probably the power supply and I'm being told it's not worth it to fix---buy a Mac mini!)
But I've read that the graphics card in the Mac mini is not stellar and I'm wondering if I could reuse the ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition 128MB Video Card in the Mac mini. Would this be a good thing to do?
Any thoughts/advice would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers,

There are people that claim to have hooked up a PCI-e 1x card (yes, the Mini uses PCI-e). But that requires some serious hardware modifications including soldering, a PC power supply, and so on. But that card is an old AGP card so even that wouldn't even work for what you've got.

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