ATI Radeon 9800 Driver

I bought a used Radeon 9800 pro (Mac) video card on ebay installed it and it seems to be running well.
However, I have read that I need to install drivers for it. I thought normally OSX took care of that for me... am I correct?
I have tried downloading from ATI and I am blocked from downloading at their site. I have looked at other download sites and they always point me back to ATI. So as of right now, I can not even find this driver to download if needed.
Can anyone give me some guidance.
Thanks

Hi-
OS X has the drivers that are needed for the ATI cards.
The only thing that you might want is the ATI Displays panel. Click on the download link, and be patient. A page or two may flash, but the download should start automatically.
The only driver update, The ATI RADEON Installer, contains the following items:
ATI RADEON9700.kext
ATI RADEON9700DVDDriver.bundle
ATI RADEON9700GA.plugin
ATI RADEON9700GLDriver.bundle
ATI RADEON9700VADriver.bundle
ATI RADEON8500.kext
ATI RADEON8500DVDDriver.bundle
ATI RADEON8500GA.plugin
ATI RADEON8500GLDriver.bundle
ATI RADEON.kext
ATI RADEONDVDDriver.bundle
ATI RADEONGA.plugin
ATI RADEONGLDriver.bundle
ATI ROM Xtender
In Mac OS X/System/Library/Extensions, you should already have the above listed drivers.

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    ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98,
    ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750,
    ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650,
    ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670,
    ATI FirePro M5750, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP),
    ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600,
    ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650],
    ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL),
    ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740,
    ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770,
    ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT,
    ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL V4000,
    ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610,
    ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2,
    ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850,
    ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550,
    ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon HD 4350,
    ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series,
    ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI FirePro RG220, ATI RV630,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT,
    ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP,
    ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630,
    ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600,
    ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE,
    ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon RV710,
    ATI Radeon HD 3470, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series, ATI Radeon HD 3450,
    ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430, ATI Radeon HD 3450,
    ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260,
    ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP,
    ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT,
    ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670, ATI Mobility FireGL V5700,
    ATI Mobility FireGL V5725, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics,
    ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics,
    ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics,
    ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics,
    ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon 4100, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200,
    ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4290,
    CYPRESS, ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series,
    ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series,
    ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series,
    ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670,
    ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series,
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, CEDAR, CEDAR, CEDAR,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
    ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, CEDAR, ATI Radeon HD 5450,
    CEDAR
    (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
    (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
    (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
    (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
    (II) RADEON(0): TOTO SAYS 00000000c0100000
    (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x00000000c0100000: size 64KB
    (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 0 func 0
    (II) RADEON(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
    "Builtin Default ati Screen 0" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
    (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
    (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
    (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor
    (II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
    (II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
    (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so
    (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 0.1.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
    (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000
    (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888
    (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
    (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE)" (ChipID = 0x5653)
    (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000d0000000
    (II) RADEON(0): PCIE card detected
    (II) Loading sub module "int10"
    (II) LoadModule: "int10"
    (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so
    (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
    (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10
    (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
    (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS detected
    (II) RADEON(0): ATOM BIOS Rom:
    SubsystemVendorID: 0x144d SubsystemID: 0x5653
    IOBaseAddress: 0x3000
    Filename:
    BIOS Bootup Message:
    M26-P Samsung M26 Firenze ATOMBIOS BR14537/rel9.10.1.0/CL199610
    (II) RADEON(0): Framebuffer space used by Firmware (kb): 20
    (II) RADEON(0): Start of VRAM area used by Firmware: 0x7ffb000
    (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS requests 20kB of VRAM scratch space
    (II) RADEON(0): AtomBIOS VRAM scratch base: 0x7ffb000
    (II) RADEON(0): Cannot get VRAM scratch space. Allocating in main memory instead
    (II) RADEON(0): Default Engine Clock: 358000
    (II) RADEON(0): Default Memory Clock: 345000
    (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 500000
    (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Output: 200000
    (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 13500
    (II) RADEON(0): Minimum Pixel ClockPLL Frequency Input: 1000
    (II) RADEON(0): Maximum Pixel Clock: 400000
    (II) RADEON(0): Reference Clock: 27000
    drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
    drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK)
    drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:00.0
    drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
    drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK)
    drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10
    drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:00.0
    (II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module version 1.32.0
    (==) RADEON(0): Page Flipping disabled
    (II) RADEON(0): Will try to use DMA for Xv image transfers
    (II) RADEON(0): Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory
    (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=131072K (PCI BAR=131072K)
    (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM)
    (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default
    (II) Loading sub module "ddc"
    (II) LoadModule: "ddc"
    (II) Module "ddc" already built-in
    (II) Loading sub module "i2c"
    (II) LoadModule: "i2c"
    (II) Module "i2c" already built-in
    (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=7 min=20000 max=50000; xclk=40000
    (WW) RADEON(0): LVDS Info:
    XRes: 1280, YRes: 800, DotClock: 68900
    HBlank: 128, HOverPlus: 21, HSyncWidth: 32
    VBlank: 16, VOverPlus: 4, VSyncWidth: 4
    (II) RADEON(0): Skipping TV-Out
    (II) RADEON(0): TMDS PLL from BIOS: 16500 b0112
    (II) RADEON(0): Skipping Component Video
    (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 has no monitor section
    (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "VGA-0" initialized.
    (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section
    (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "LVDS" initialized.
    (II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 has no monitor section
    (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus "DVI-0" initialized.
    (II) RADEON(0): Port0:
    XRANDR name: VGA-0
    Connector: VGA
    CRT1: INTERNAL_DAC1
    DDC reg: 0x60
    (II) RADEON(0): Port1:
    XRANDR name: LVDS
    Connector: LVDS
    LCD1: INTERNAL_LVDS
    DDC reg: 0x1a808
    (II) RADEON(0): Port2:
    XRANDR name: DVI-0
    Connector: DVI-D
    DFP1: INTERNAL_TMDS1
    DDC reg: 0x64
    (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA-0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
    Dac detection success
    (II) RADEON(0): Output: VGA-0, Detected Monitor Type: 0
    finished output detect: 0
    Backtrace:
    0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x809f7db]
    1: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x54715) [0x809c715]
    2: (vdso) (__kernel_rt_sigreturn+0x0) [0x7785e40c]
    3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (0x77226000+0x83208) [0x772a9208]
    4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (0x77226000+0x3790c) [0x7725d90c]
    5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (0x77226000+0x3988b) [0x7725f88b]
    6: /usr/bin/X (InitOutput+0x5c8) [0x80ab048]
    7: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a550) [0x8062550]
    8: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0x7747db86]
    9: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a2f1) [0x80622f1]
    Segmentation fault at address 0x7734f808
    Fatal server error:
    Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
    Can anyone help me? Thanks!

    When I install an old xf86-video-ati package from 27.02.2010, everything works. So the problem seems to be the new ati-driver.

  • ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x in Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 PMac G4

    Hi,
    This is my first time posting to these discussion group... I've been going through related threads and have not found an answer to my problem...
    I have a Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 G4. Awhile ago I upgraded the processor to a Sonnet 1.8ghz so I could run Leopard.
    I just bough the ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x video card. I researched around and that seemed to be a card that would work in my machine. I even read a review on Amazon where someone had also upgraded to the 1.8 processor used this card with no issues.
    I do have an older monitor - Apple Studio Display CRT with the ADC connector. So I also bought the Apple DVI to ADC adapter kit.
    I installed the card and do not get any picture at all - I believe I have installed everything correctly. I'm pretty sure I can hear the fan on the video card in the machine. The monitor is getting power from the adapter since the button lights up when I press it - but it does not stay lit -- the monitor never turns on. Using my old graphics card the monitor makes a little "beep" when it turns on.
    In reading the other topics I am wondering if it might be a power issue? According to Other World Computing's profile my machine has a max of 220 watts. Although they suggest this video card as one the will work in my machine.
    I have disabled the hard drive that came with the machine (too small) and am using two Maxtor hard drives that I added - one ATA (120gb) and one SATA (500gb) that is connected to an SATA pci card. I also have two additional pci cards with usb 2.0/firewire ports.
    In looking at the topics here I came across the link about taping the 3 and 11 pins on the video card. Even though the card I have is 4x/2x not 8x I thought I'd give it a shot. That did not work either.
    Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

    I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
    It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
    The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
    Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
    Within reason, the early G4's (Sawtooths) are capable of using the Radeon 9800 Pro. The GE has the same 338w PSU as the DA (they are interchangeable), so there is plenty of power for the 9800.
    One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
    It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
    I think you'll be satisfied with the explanation.......
    Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
    The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
    Reducing heat/increasing cooling by using a third party fan on the 9800 is highly recommended. The 9800 is a hot card, and the stock fan is prone to early failure.
    Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
    Super heated air moving through the PSU reduces the cooling ability of the PSU. A hot PSU doesn't produce reliable power.
    So, add the 9800, add some cooling, and enjoy!

  • [Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

    Hi,
    I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard.  Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
    My PC is :
    -MSI K8T NEO-V
    -AMD-64 3200
    -Power : 400W
    -ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
    -1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
    -Hercules Digifires 7.1
    I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
    The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
    But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
    I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers).  Even if all are updated, it freeze.
    There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
    So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
    Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

    What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
    You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
    If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

  • ATI Radeon 9800 PRO openGL Troubles

    Machine Name: Power Mac G4
    Machine Model: PowerMac3,5
    CPU Type: PowerPC 60? (1.1)
    Number Of CPUs: 1
    CPU Speed: 2 GHz
    L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
    Memory: 1.25 GB
    Bus Speed: 133 MHz
    Display
    ATI Radeon 9800 Pro:
    Chipset Model: ATY,R350
    Type: Display
    Bus: AGP
    Slot: SLOT-1
    VRAM (Total): 128 MB
    Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
    Device ID: 0x4e48
    Revision ID: 0x0000
    ROM Revision: 113-A07525-130
    I have been looking for someone with the same or similar problem as mine to no avail
    Ok so heres my problem...a few months ago i noticed that the screen saver had frozen on my G4 mac
    At the time i didn't think anything of it so i try to reboot but it wouldn't get any further than the "Blue" screen after weeks of trouble shooting, reading through logs and surfing what felt like 90% of the net i tracked it down to the "ATI Radeon9700 Extensions" in my system folder.
    As you can see from above i have a "ATI Radeon 9800 PRO" and i presume that it runs off the 9700 drivers because there are no 9800 extenstions in the driver updates from ATI....
    Anyway this is the strange bit ....if i boot up in "Safe Mode" and delete all the "ATI Radeon9700 Extenstions" below
    ATIRadeon9700.kext
    ATIRadeon9700DVDDriver.bundle
    ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin
    ATIRadeon9700GLDriver.bundle
    ATIRadeon9700VADriver.bundle
    Then trash...
    Extensions.kextcache
    Extensions.mkext
    Then put a new copy of the "Radeon9700 Extensions" from the 10.4.8 upgrade back in, it boots fine.
    These extensions come with the apple OS updates so everytime i upgrade the OS i have to go through the above steps again.
    I am starting to think that the openGL capabilities of my card is fooked because the screensaver that im talking about is "Flurry" and it is really jerky now if i try to run it
    I know that the SS users openGL
    Also if i try and launch UT2k4 i get a crash log error of "unable to create pixel format.
    This is what the boot up log looks like before i trash the extensions
    13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 962:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 963:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 964:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 965:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 966:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 967:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 968:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 969:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 970:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 971:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 972:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 973:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 974:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 975:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 976:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 977:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 978:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 979:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 980:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 981:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 982:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 983:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 984:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 985:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 986:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 987:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 988:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 989:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 990:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 991:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 992:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 993:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 994:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 995:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 996:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 997:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 998:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 999:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1000:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1001:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1002:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1003:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1004:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1005:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1006:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1007:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1008:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1009:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1010:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1011:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1012:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1013:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1014:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1015:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1016:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1017:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1018:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1019:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1020:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1021:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1022:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1023:0xffffffff
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 0xaeba99b7
    Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
    Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x01004e48 4f000207 00000007 20080178
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x13c280a4 c0003a0c 00000002 00000008
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x80000003 0000001f 00002a2a 8401c100
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000002 00100000 51b3a220 40000000
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x60000000 0002000a 0008bbbb 00000000
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000003 0000444f 10031004
    Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0:0x000101ce
    There was a lot more of this but i dont want to spam the thread
    This is the interesting bit...
    " Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
    Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100"
    Any ideas ...please dont just say"Buy a new card" i would really like to get to the bottom of this...if it turns out that my card is fried then fair enough
    Quick silver 2002   Mac OS X (10.4.8)   processor upgrade to 2Ghz gigadesign 7A</

    I'm getting exactlly the same error. This occures after several weeks of sudden & spontaneous shutdowns. And now I get this error whenever I try to launch W.o.W.
    Feb 25 07:41:52 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
    Feb 25 07:41:53 drive-0 kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x80016100
    Feb 25 07:42:04 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
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