Ati Radeon HD 4870 out of order?

Hi folks,
im using a mac pro 1.1 with an ati radeon hd 4870 since aprox. one year without troubles.
since two weeks i habve the problem, that when i start the machine the fan of the graphik card is very loud, the power led is blinking and there is no starting at all. First i thought it would be the ram/ or riser cards. Then i installed the old graphik card (Nvida Model no P345 that one came with the computer) - and everything was ok. so i think the problem is NOT the ram. (am i right?).
My Problem FCP X is not working with this card (too slow)
Did anybody have the same trouble with that graphic card? is the gpu out of order? please help
This is my first post in any forum concerning computer-problems. sorry for my bad english, i´m german
thanks for your answers (which i long for)

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http://www.amazon.com/Apple-ATI-Radeon-5770-MC742ZM/dp/B003Z6QH6M
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/726537-REG/Apple_MC742ZM_A_ATI_Radeon_HD_5 770.html
How To Install and Remove Memory Mac Pro
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4433
2x2GB FBDIMM DDR2 667MHz @ $32
http://www.amazon.com/BUFFERED-PC2-5300-FB-DIMM-APPLE-Memory/dp/B002ORUUAC/
Those 512s fail. They are 7 yrs old. They were not as well engineered at what is being made and sold now, in the last year. These I use (1,1 8x2GB) are not just fine they are great (run 10-15*C colder)
You should use Temperature Monitor to see what thermal and other sensors report, fan speeds, temps of DIMMs (over 70*C is not good contrary to early reports).
Temperature Monitor
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/12381/temperature-monitor
http://www.bresink.com/osx/HardwareMonitor.html
SMCFanControl 2.4+
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23049/smcfancontrol

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lead_org is incorrect. a converter cable on the S20 is not needed. it already has two PCI 6 and PCI 6+2 power sockets, allowing it to run two cards requiring 6+8 pin power sockets such as the 4870x2 natively.(edit: typo... meant to say 6+2, not 6+1)
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