ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 and S20 ??

Hello,
Could somebody help me with this card ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 ?
I was wondering if we can put this card into S20 and if yes ..what exact we need to do this ? If not why ?
As far as i know there is different power socket on card ? So do we need some adapter or ??? to put this card
into S20?
Many thanks in advance
Regards
prosek
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lead_org is incorrect. a converter cable on the S20 is not needed. it already has two PCI 6 and PCI 6+2 power sockets, allowing it to run two cards requiring 6+8 pin power sockets such as the 4870x2 natively.(edit: typo... meant to say 6+2, not 6+1)
Message Edited by erik on 07-09-2009 03:53 PM
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