ATI Radeon X1900 XT and Color

Hi Guys,
sorry to post this here but couldn't think where else to ask this. Looking at the recommended specs for the Final Cut Studio 2 and especially Color. The recommended card is the ATI Radeon X1900 XT, what is it about this card that Apple recomend it so highly?
The reason I ask is because I've seen a great card that had 320GB VRAM but hope it works with color and motion 3
What do you guys think?
James
Dual 2.3Ghz PowerMac G5, 1.5 Ghz Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

umm, i was advised while on a color demo pod at NAB with the writer of the product manual that the 1900 card is the sweet spot there. that's all the guidance i need. use what you want at your own risk.

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hi ! i have a realy tough one for you guys : since 3-4 days i've been getting this realy strange (and scary!) kernal panic screen / crashes / freeze with my macpro dual 2.66 with ati radeon X1900 xt.
the crashes keep coming while doing extensive work (video converting, renders) or just letting the macpro running doing nothing much all night long...
now this is what i found for now : if i disconect my 2nd display (samsung syncmaster 2493hm HD in DVI 1080p) it seem to be stable. when i reconnect it sometime it can run again with this 2nd display for a while but when i leave a render all night long the next morning it will be frozen, nothing on screen (all black).
after rebooting it get this crash report from the system :
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8ernc0ro,rrR2: 0xected error
CR3: 0x00e7a000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x24f9bed8, EBX: 0x1a6f198a, ECX: 0x1a6f198a, EDX: 0x004bc870
ESP: 0x24f9bebc, EBP: 0x24f9bf08, ESI: 0x00001e27, EDI: 0x035e1718
EFL: 0x00000006, EIP: 0x0019e9c0
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x439d58 : 0x128d0d (0x3cc65c 0x439d7c 0x131f95 0x0)
0x439d98 : 0x1a42cb (0x3d27fc 0x0 0x35e1718 0x12)
0x439f58 : 0x19c103 (0x439f70 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x24f9bf08 : 0x135888 (0x1a6f164f 0x35e3d40 0x3f91084 0x2)
0x24f9bf58 : 0x1359c9 (0x13d8a2 0x0 0x0 0x19e23a)
0x24f9bf78 : 0x13da53 (0x13d8a2 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x24f9bfc8 : 0x19b21c (0x0 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x4ebf4c0) Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0x0
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386
Model: MacPro1,1, BootROM MP11.005C.B04, 4 processors, Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 2.66 GHz, 2 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1900 XT, ATY,RadeonX1900, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1, 512 MB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2, 512 MB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1, 512 MB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2, 512 MB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
AirPort: spairportwireless_card_type_airportextreme (0x14E4, 0x87), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (4.170.13.1)
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en2
PCI Card: ATY,RadeonX1900, Display, Slot-1
Serial ATA Device: ST3250820AS P, 232.89 GB
Parallel ATA Device: OPTIARC DVD RW AD-7170A
USB Device: USB2.0 Hub, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: USB RECEIVER, Logitech, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA
USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA
FireWire Device: built-in_hub, unknown_value, Unknown
FireWire Device: GSA-5163D Super Multi DVD Rewriter, HL-DT-ST, Up to 400 Mb/sec
FireWire Device: My Book Device, WD, Up to 800 Mb/sec
here's my complete config if it can help :
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP11.005C.B04
SMC Version: 1.7f8
ATI Radeon X1900 XT:
Chipset Model: ATY,RadeonX1900
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x7249
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A52027-140
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.140
Displays:
SyncMaster:
Resolution: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Rotation: Supported
Television: Yes
S/M 955SL:
Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Rotation: Supported
anyone ever see this problem ? at 1st it seem to be related to my ATI card... but i'm no expert so if anyone can understand part of the crash log let me know ! thanx !!
also forget to say : did all the full apple hardware test + tech tool pro test (app that come with apple care) and nothing was wrong, all ok.
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I've been looking around these posts for a while and I can't seem to find this specific answer, so I apologize if my question has been asked already.
I am looking to purchase a MacPro tower. I don't use Motion. I don't play video games. I don't need 8 zillion giant monitors. I intend to use the computer mainly for Final Cut Pro 6.0 and probably a fair amount of Color as well.
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I am surprised .... I don't have (any ideas), so I don't know for sure
You know, that doesn't help or further things and puts out false ideas that there even might. Then I'll hear "but I read somewhere something."
Apple changed the firmware on 2008. That is well known and pretty obvious, and graphic cards have to follow suit.
Nvidia doesn't seem to know or follow ATI's path of using a "hybred" (for want of better term) EFD? ROM that works across EFI32 and EFI64. Been explained over and over, or if not explained, given as cause to why.
At least we have a few years before EFI128!
NVidia GeForce 7400 gfx card
Now that is very elusive.
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I think my video card (ATI Radeon X1900 XT) is about to die and I'm trying to figure out what to replace it with. (I'm on a 1st gen MacPro, still on Tiger).
What I can't easily figure out from this site, however, is a list of alternative cards I could purchase that will fit in this machine. I gather from the ratings that the ATI X1900 has failed for just about everyone that has used it intensely. And I'd like to avoid buying the same one that is about to fail for me now, but how can I tell what my alternatives are and if they will fit in the slot and/or be compatible with my machine?
I have been to the Mac Pro spec area, and it lists these as the "build to order" options:
* ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB (two dual-link DVI)
* NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB (stereo 3D, two dual-link DVI)
* Two NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
* Three NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
* Four NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
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Forgive me if I sound like a totally idiot. I'm just trying to learn...

You should visit Bare Feats and see the various reviews and benchmarks. You have several options now available besides the ones that came originally with your model. There is now an NVidia 8800 card in a version for pre-2008 MPs, the ATI 2600, and the new ATI 3870 just released. You can learn more at Bare Feats and by searching the MP forums.
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