ATI Rage 128 Pro

Can it run apple 23 lcd?

A DVI to VGA just extracts the Analog signals (from that cross-bar thing at the end of the connector and the pins around it). It doesn't convert anything, and it doesn't work the other direction.
You would need a VGA to DVI converter (over US$300) which has all the VRAM and logic of a Display card. Much simpler just to get a fast enough display card with enough VRAM to do the job in the first place.

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Supported flat panel displays for an ATI Rage 128 Pro/G4 500

I originally was using an Apple 21" CRT display with my G4/500 until the display's picture tube failed. I am now looking to purchase a flat panel w/DVI, using my G4's DVI video port and the Rage 128 Pro card. I have found conflicting information on resolutions supported by the ATI card. I am looking at a Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD, and the requirements indicate that my system must be able to support WSXGA+ resolution (1680 x 1050). A 24" version of the Dell monitor requires the support of WUXGA resolution (1920x1200). WIll either of these flat panel monitors work with my G4? If not, what specs do I need to look at to determine compatibility? Thanks.
Apple G4 500 Mac OS X (10.3.1) ATI Rage 128 Pro Graphics Card

Hi JBernstein,
Karl,
I greatly appreciate your efforts to resolve my
question.
No worries, Mate!
To address a question you posed earlier, no, my G4
did not come with a ADC port. I have both VGA and
DVI-D ports on my G4/500 (Graphite) with the Rage 128
Pro ADP card, which is 16 mb and 2x.
From that, I would infer that you computer is not ADC enabled.
It was the Genius at
the Apple Store who mentioned the Radeon 9000 card as
a replacement. but he also suggested that the current
20" Apple display would work with my G4 ... we tried
that today, and the OS would not launch and power the
display. SO, we must replace the card, or live with
small displays.
Yes, the ATY 128 Pro generally does not have enough grunt to power the larger displays.
I did find a number of Radeon 9600 Pro Mac Edition
video cards on eBay, but most had a published spec of
4X, and the response to whether it was backwards
compatible with the 2x capability in my G4/500 is
that it will not work. Is that true?
All the information I have (via the ATI website) does not specifically state that the 9600 card will support AGP 2X. Other ATI cards that do support 2X have this specifically stated in the information. Therefore, there is no garauntee that the 9600 card will support 2X. Until I receive information that someone has used this card in an AGP 2X computer with success, I cannot advise trying to use it.
I have not
confirmed the Radeon 8500 as yet, but as you might
imagine, it is frustrating to get conflicting
responses.
The ATI Radeon 8500 will work in your computer (as, partially, will the 9000 - refer to my earlier posting).
Perhaps you might address a different question ... is
there any place within Apple that I can go, even with
paying a fee for services, that would definitively
provide an absolute solution to an upgrade type
question, complete with exact part number AND
guarantee that the information is quite accurate? Why
wouldn't Apple provide some type of infomration on
replacement/upgrade path for older products (geez ---
the G4/500 Graphite isn't even on the legacy products
list yet) so that the customer can invest and upgrade
without going through a challenging process to get
the right information? The information I've turned up
is vague and not geared towards solutions like this.
Apple, for all sorts of reasons (legal and commercial), is loath to provide "official" advice on the use of any third party upgrade hardware on their products. Moreover, discussions on the morality of this is probably against the terms and conditions of this discussion forum.
I'm all ears as to how to move forward with this G4
with a replacement card, if that is possible.
The way I see it, you need either an ATI 8500/9000 if your only desired upgrade is the capacity to run larger displays, or an ATI 9800 is you wish to do gaming, graphics and be able to make full use of all the new Tiger graphics facilities.
Cheers!
Karl

PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro

I just bought an ATI Rage 128 Pro 32MB PCI video card for my early quicksilver G4 (733 MHz, 1GB RAM). The idea was to add a second monitor to my 15" Apple Studio Display connected to the AGP card (ATI Rage 128 Pro with ADC and VGA). Doesn't work though:
Card does not show up in System Profiler.app in either PCI or Graphics/Displays
Display does not show up in System Preferences.app - Displays tab
Quick search on Apple.com, ATI, OWC, and Google reveals no driver information for this card.
Thanks in advance,
-- Aubrey Granner

The reason I bought this card was how I plan to use it and what I already have.
Right now, I have an older Apple Studio Display that I like and don't want to replace. It requires a Apple Display Connector, so that means I have to keep the current AGP card:
from System Profiler
ATY,Rage128Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,Rage128Pro
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 16 MB
Vendor: ATI
Apple Studio Display:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported
I just bought a new LCD TV and it's near the mac so I thought I'd get a VGA cable and watch videos on the new screen. I don't need the "horsepower" because I'm not doing intense graphic processing, just flat, high-resolution video (I like to watch European TV shows).
Because of these reasons I bought the cheapest PCI card I could: $20
If there's another card that will work for what I want to do without breaking the bank, please let me know.
Thanks,
-- Aubrey Granner

ATi Rage 128 PRO with DVI adaptor

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and those on G5 and Mac Mini?
Is there any other solution that I can output the display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
Thank you so much!!
Cheers,
Lawrence

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a
VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work
with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for
PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences
between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and
those on G5 and Mac Mini?
It's not the port, but the card that matters. The conversion to video is done by the card. The adapter just sends the output to the correct pins. I think the only cards that work are the recent ATI cards. Yours is probably too old. ATI's web-site doesn't have any information on it.
Is there any other solution that I can output the
display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
You can get a newer graphics card or use a VGA to Video converter.
<http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/PC-TVvideoadapter.html>
There are other, cheaper, ones.

Questions regarding ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card in Sawtooth

Hi, i was checking on the web regarding the specs of my Sawtooth and stumbled upon this page: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermacg4/stats/powermac_g4_400agp.html
My Sawtooth comes with the ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card. Its indicated the max resolution support is 1920x1200. I was wondering if it is able to support resolution 1680x1050 for wide monitors like the Samsung 205BW? Have anyone tried using a wide screen monitor with the Rage 128 pro card? Does it work well?
I'm not a gamer and i don't intend to upgrade the graphic card. (Though it would be nice to get my hands on the a Radeon 8500 or 9000.) I mainly do graphic work, and currently using a Samsung 740B monitor set at 1280x1028 resolution.

Hi, I posted the exact same question in another forum, and i was directed to this link: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=58395
So i guess it does work. Though maybe, to a certain extend, like mentioned by one of the forum members:
"My old Sawtooth 400MHz G4 had an ATI Rage 128. It drove my 20inch Apple Cinema Display (the current design) with DVI. Not the best graphics, but it could do it, and without any hacks too..."
Hope this helps with anyone having the same questions... : )

ATI, Rage 128 pro display card won't work on 23"hd cinema display Help....

My rage 128 pro won't work on this 23" display, it simply went black, i would like to know if I can purchase a vga to dvi adapter to solve this problem without buying a new video card? thanks
G4 400mhz Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Are you in the US?
Europe?
These 6-pin cords are readily available for not much money, but the searches are toturous, often involving references to the G5. Like this one from Amazon (US):
http://www.amazon.com/PCIe-Power-Cable-nVidia-Video/dp/B002UR1654/ref=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&qid=1388019109&sr=8-1&keywords=6-pin+aux+power+G5

G4 Cube w/ ATI RAGE 128 Pro graphics card and Cinema Display?

I now have a 15" Apple flat panel (M7928ZM/A). Apple used to offer a 22" flat display (M8058ZM/A)for the Cube but I can't find it anywhere. Would a 20" Cinema Display work?
Thanks.

Probably not, me thinks just update the computer. So you can get the Cinema to work basically because of evolving software and the requirements needed.
GOOD LUCK

Hmmm.... Original 16 Meg ATI AGP Rage 128 Pro or 32 Meg ATI PCI Mac 7000 ?

I have both of these cards installed in my 466 (soon to be 733) MHz DA tower.
Which one should I be using for best all-around performance ???
M

Jeff sez:
The Radeon GPU is better/faster than the older Rage 128 Pro. In addition to having more memory, the Radeon cards have DDR SDRAM, as opposed to the SDRAM found on the Rage card. The performance difference between the two cards is noticeable, so I'd go with the Radeon.
I sez:
To check out the difference between PCI vs AGP video performance I used a 22 inch LaCie set at millions of colours on my AGP Graphics Digital Audio G4 tower, I installed two contemporary video cards in it and then ran only the video component of XBench on the computer twice, once with the monitor connected to each card and nothing connected to the other. The results were more or less what I expected, but they were interesting. The two cards I used for the test were both ATI cards. One of them was the 16-meg Rage128 Pro AGP card that came stock in my 466 MHz DA G4 tower and the other was a theoretically much better 32-meg DDR ATI Radeon PCI 7000 Mac Edition. The only other installed PCI card (besides the Radeon 7000) is a VIA Vectro VT6212L USB 2.0 card.
When the video testing was all finished the AGP card, with 16 Megs of VRAM, scored considerably higher than the 32-meg PCI card in every category of the test. The overall XBench score for the computer, with no other changes, was 32.08 with the PCI video card and 38.04 with the Rage 128 Pro AGP graphics card installed. Frames per second for spinning squares results were 55.58 with the PCI card, 65.77 with AGP. What was most notable was the Text results: only 2.13 thousand characters per second with the 32-meg DDR Radeon 7000 Mac Edition versus a whopping 5.12 thousand characters per second with the 16-meg AGP card.
I suspected the AGP was better than PCI but I did not expect a 16-meg AGP card to overwhelm a PCI card with 32MB of double data rate memory. Live & learn.

No kext for Xserve's ATI RAGE 128 in Leopard

Xserve running OS X Server 10.5.2
The Xserve has an ATI RAGE 128 PCI graphics card from an old G3 Blue & White. System Profiler shows no kext loaded for the graphics card. The monitor displays OK, but ScreenSharing and Timbuktu both display ragged text and graphics when connecting to the Xserve.
The Extensions for the older ATI RAGE 128 graphics cards are absent from Leopard, since it isn't spec'ed to run on the B&W.
Has anyone tried using the ATI RAGE 128 Extensions from Tiger in Leopard?
Has anything changed in the way extensions are implemented that would cause Tiger's ATI RAGE 128 Extensions to fail?
TIA,
Sam

The Rage 128 Pro has all the drivers it needs in OSX, and OS9.2x. Since ATI considers it a discontinued product, they do not supply any drivers or support for it anymore. Try a google search for a manual, you might find one. Make sure to look for the Mac Rage 128 when you look it up.
Here is the thing, because these cards were shipped OEM by Apple (not retail) they didn't come with any cables or manuals, that I am aware of. You might find one for a similar Mac ATI Rage 128 based video card.

Latest Patch can't support ATI Rage Fury Pro AGP,32MB optional Video In/Out

I tried the Latest Patche -> "109401-10"
"http://www.sun.com/io_technologies/solaris-drivers.html
SUN claimed it will support Rage 128/Rage 128 pro/Radon.
But after I installed this patch and select Rage 128/Rage 128 pro/Radon 32 MB.
The system can't recognize the video card and indicated
there is no any this kind of video card installed.
ATI said Rage Fury Pro is based on Rage 128 Pro graphics.
I have a friend install ATI Xpert 2000 AGP with 32MB video card successfully.
I'm confused that SUN have tested all ATI video card or not before they put the patch into production.
Jianwei

If you do just have a different revision, you can do the following:
- use prtconf -v to find your graphic card. Note down the values given in the line after it (something like this: pci104c,ac15)
- now locate your graphics card in /etc/driver_aliases and in /boot/solaris/devicedb/master. You need to add a new line to those files with the values you wrote down from prtconf. Looking at my laptop just now, you may get away with just /boot/solaris/devicedb/master for your video card.

Which graphics cards will work in a G4 that came with a Rage 128 Pro AGP?

My ATI 9800 Pro Mac just died and, though it is under warranty, it is taking ATI a while to replace it. They don't sell them any more, so they told me they refurbish them. I need a card that works so I can use my computger NOW, while I'm waiting. I have a heavily upgrade G4 that supports my software so I don't want to upgrade with a new system. Any ideas for a quick fix would be greatly appreciated. I'm losing faith in ATI.
Thanks,
zrants.

Better still, if you are just looking for a card to fill the AGP slot until your high performance card comes back from the shop you could EITHER
a/ pick up another 16-meg AGP Rage128 Pro if you can't find your old one. That Rage 128 Pro card was actually a VERY decent card for its time and is compatible with the new versions of the Mac OS.
b/ put in any cheap 8 or 16-meg OSX-compliant PCI card (unless all of your PCI slots are filled).
If its simply a matter of asking you could probably borrow something for a few days. Everyone who has played with PCI Macs has at least one old ATI PCI video card kicking around in a box in the basement or sitting on a shelf.

Driver for the ati rage 128 ultra graphics card

WE ARE SUPPILED SOLORIES 8 (INTEL BASED) 02/02 TO ONE OF MY CUSTOMER.WE TRY TO INSTALL ON HP XE 320 PC.GRPHICS CARD DRIVER WAS NOT SELLECTING AUTOMATICALLY.IN THAT SYSTEM ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA GRAPHICS CARD(32MB ).WE ARE TRYING DIFFERNT ATI CHIPSET BUT NOT LOADING O/S FINALLY WE SELECT 640*480 STANDARD DRIVER AND LOADING COMPLTELY.I REQUIRE DRIVER FOR ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA DRIVERS.CAN YOU PL. PROVIDE ME.

Hello,
the drivers have been supplied with patch 109401-10. Maybe there are laters revisions.
Patch-ID# 109401-10
Keywords: security X11 6.4.1_x86 video driver ati 810 matrox nvidia s3 kdmconfig
Synopsis: SunOS 5.8_x86: Updated video drivers and fixes
Date: Jul/23/2001
Solaris Release: 8_x86
SunOS Release: 5.8_x86
Best regards
Michael

8600 and ATI Rage 128

Hello all. I have an 8600/200 with a Sonnet G3 400 upgrade card running OS 9.1. I installed an ATI Rage 128 video card from a PM G3 (blue and white, I think). It works OK but when I'm surfing the web and I scroll up/down the page doesn't scroll smoothly, but is instead choppy. I know the card is not native to this 8600 model, but is there any way to smooth out the scrolling choppiness? Is there a driver download from Apple or ATI? Or, would there be another type of video card that would remedy the scrolling for this machine? I installed this card to help speed up the startup since I am using an IBM monitor and at startup it takes longer for the monitor to turn on. Before I installed the ATI card, it had a VGA adapter which worked OK but also had the same startup delay for the monitor, but the scrolling worked better. I've had the same delay with other monitors. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. John

I'm with Grant in assigning 40-odd MB of Ram for use by any OS 9-and-below browser, and with Jeff in using a RAM Disk (under any OS that is capable of supporting one) for the browser's cache, be that browser Netscape, Mozilla or IE. That the RAM Disk may not be persistent (ie, is lost at shutdown) is not often, if ever, a source of sorrow.
If screen redrawing (as tested by Chris's suggestion) is slow, the suspicion has to be that the video card's memory is deficient, either in quantity or activity. If that is the case, removal of the card and careful cleaning of its edge connector, followed by its reseating, and careful checking for the presence and loading of its drivers (in Extensions Manager) may be in order. The quantity oof VRAM you can do little about but by upgrading the whole card. It is not impossible that some housekeeping of your hard drive may be in order. How full is it (85% or less is desirable)? Has it been recently defragmented both as to files and file directory to provide contiguous free space and ready access to files? You may have arrived at a point where the accumulation of little hindrances has become a large hurdle.

HOW TO ATi Rage 128

Hello,
I've posted a few topics about my ATi Rage 128 card... all with minimal help. Unfortunatley there doesn't seem to be anybody out there that knows how to use the Video card... I want to know how to use the inputs on the card? Can I use them as video capture tools? Should i, instead of trying to get this to work, just upgrade to a radeon card??? Thanks in advance,

There are no current video cards (with engines newer than the ATI Rage 128 that allow video input), the newer cards only have S-Video, DVI and VGA output. Using them is simple. Plug in the desired device and boot your machine, at least thats how it should work.
As far as I know, the Rage 128s video input is the only supported under OS9 or earlier. As for output, it works just like any other graphics card, although I think it only supports one screen at a time, but I could be wrong.
http://www.ati.com/products/ragepro/xclaimvr/features.html

15" Apple flat screen monitor will it work with rage 128 pro

Hya, I have just bought a 17" Apple monitor and want to know it the rage 128 pro AGP card will work or whether either of these on ebay are suitable, I am totaly confused with all the different variations.
Item 230117175047
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Thanks for any advice you can give
Robert

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