ATI Rage Pro 3D

Hi,
I just installed Archlinux on my old PC and I'd like to configure the graphic card properly.
With the default settings it works but I see flickering while moving the windows on the screen.
Searching the web I found this wiki page, that refers to my graphic device but seems a bit outdated http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mach64
Before starting experimenting on my system I'd like to have a confirmation on how to work.
Let's start from the beginning: I understood I have first to install the AUR package kernel26-mach64, but on the page it is flagged as out of date http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32583
It is still safe to install that kernel or do I have to do other things in order to have my graphic card work properly?

Ideally, you should try to find patches that will work with the current kernel version - 2.6.34.1 at the moment. If/when you find them, use that AUR package as your starting point, and amend it as required to produce an up-to-date version of kernel26-mach64.
If you can't find up-to-date patches, you could try the existing 2.6.31.6 version in the AUR - however, that's a major downgrade, and you may find it necessary to downgrade other packages also. Maintaining that will become increasingly difficult as time goes on.

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Supported flat panel displays for an ATI Rage 128 Pro/G4 500

I originally was using an Apple 21" CRT display with my G4/500 until the display's picture tube failed. I am now looking to purchase a flat panel w/DVI, using my G4's DVI video port and the Rage 128 Pro card. I have found conflicting information on resolutions supported by the ATI card. I am looking at a Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD, and the requirements indicate that my system must be able to support WSXGA+ resolution (1680 x 1050). A 24" version of the Dell monitor requires the support of WUXGA resolution (1920x1200). WIll either of these flat panel monitors work with my G4? If not, what specs do I need to look at to determine compatibility? Thanks.
Apple G4 500 Mac OS X (10.3.1) ATI Rage 128 Pro Graphics Card

Hi JBernstein,
Karl,
I greatly appreciate your efforts to resolve my
question.
No worries, Mate!
To address a question you posed earlier, no, my G4
did not come with a ADC port. I have both VGA and
DVI-D ports on my G4/500 (Graphite) with the Rage 128
Pro ADP card, which is 16 mb and 2x.
From that, I would infer that you computer is not ADC enabled.
It was the Genius at
the Apple Store who mentioned the Radeon 9000 card as
a replacement. but he also suggested that the current
20" Apple display would work with my G4 ... we tried
that today, and the OS would not launch and power the
display. SO, we must replace the card, or live with
small displays.
Yes, the ATY 128 Pro generally does not have enough grunt to power the larger displays.
I did find a number of Radeon 9600 Pro Mac Edition
video cards on eBay, but most had a published spec of
4X, and the response to whether it was backwards
compatible with the 2x capability in my G4/500 is
that it will not work. Is that true?
All the information I have (via the ATI website) does not specifically state that the 9600 card will support AGP 2X. Other ATI cards that do support 2X have this specifically stated in the information. Therefore, there is no garauntee that the 9600 card will support 2X. Until I receive information that someone has used this card in an AGP 2X computer with success, I cannot advise trying to use it.
I have not
confirmed the Radeon 8500 as yet, but as you might
imagine, it is frustrating to get conflicting
responses.
The ATI Radeon 8500 will work in your computer (as, partially, will the 9000 - refer to my earlier posting).
Perhaps you might address a different question ... is
there any place within Apple that I can go, even with
paying a fee for services, that would definitively
provide an absolute solution to an upgrade type
question, complete with exact part number AND
guarantee that the information is quite accurate? Why
wouldn't Apple provide some type of infomration on
replacement/upgrade path for older products (geez ---
the G4/500 Graphite isn't even on the legacy products
list yet) so that the customer can invest and upgrade
without going through a challenging process to get
the right information? The information I've turned up
is vague and not geared towards solutions like this.
Apple, for all sorts of reasons (legal and commercial), is loath to provide "official" advice on the use of any third party upgrade hardware on their products. Moreover, discussions on the morality of this is probably against the terms and conditions of this discussion forum.
I'm all ears as to how to move forward with this G4
with a replacement card, if that is possible.
The way I see it, you need either an ATI 8500/9000 if your only desired upgrade is the capacity to run larger displays, or an ATI 9800 is you wish to do gaming, graphics and be able to make full use of all the new Tiger graphics facilities.
Cheers!
Karl

PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro

I just bought an ATI Rage 128 Pro 32MB PCI video card for my early quicksilver G4 (733 MHz, 1GB RAM). The idea was to add a second monitor to my 15" Apple Studio Display connected to the AGP card (ATI Rage 128 Pro with ADC and VGA). Doesn't work though:
Card does not show up in System Profiler.app in either PCI or Graphics/Displays
Display does not show up in System Preferences.app - Displays tab
Quick search on Apple.com, ATI, OWC, and Google reveals no driver information for this card.
Thanks in advance,
-- Aubrey Granner

The reason I bought this card was how I plan to use it and what I already have.
Right now, I have an older Apple Studio Display that I like and don't want to replace. It requires a Apple Display Connector, so that means I have to keep the current AGP card:
from System Profiler
ATY,Rage128Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,Rage128Pro
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 16 MB
Vendor: ATI
Apple Studio Display:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported
I just bought a new LCD TV and it's near the mac so I thought I'd get a VGA cable and watch videos on the new screen. I don't need the "horsepower" because I'm not doing intense graphic processing, just flat, high-resolution video (I like to watch European TV shows).
Because of these reasons I bought the cheapest PCI card I could: $20
If there's another card that will work for what I want to do without breaking the bank, please let me know.
Thanks,
-- Aubrey Granner

ATi Rage 128 PRO with DVI adaptor

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and those on G5 and Mac Mini?
Is there any other solution that I can output the display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
Thank you so much!!
Cheers,
Lawrence

I got a PowerMac G4 with Ati Rage 128 Pro which has a
VGA and a DVI port on it
I would like to know if the DVI port going to work
with the Apple DVI to Video adaptor?
I know the postage of the adaptor said it is only for
PowerMac G5 and Mac mini but is there any differences
between the DVI port on the ATi Rage 128 PRO and
those on G5 and Mac Mini?
It's not the port, but the card that matters. The conversion to video is done by the card. The adapter just sends the output to the correct pins. I think the only cards that work are the recent ATI cards. Yours is probably too old. ATI's web-site doesn't have any information on it.
Is there any other solution that I can output the
display to a TV with s-video or RGB?
You can get a newer graphics card or use a VGA to Video converter.
<http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/PC-TVvideoadapter.html>
There are other, cheaper, ones.

How to Setup LCD Monitor and ATI Rage LT Pro ? Thanks

I have already added the 109401-01 Patch to Solaris 8 (x86) , but I got
a problem , that LCD Monitor and ATI Rage LT Pro was wrong in kdmconfig,
Someone can help me how to config them? thanks

Thanks for your response.I cannot sure which drivers should be selected , I have tried the all item of ATI,LCD monitor size and resolution in kdmconfig , but it doesn't work well ,even more , I didn't see any item which shows ATI LT Pro. The system is ok, color-mapping is right ,I can see the right color (256 colors) ,but something wrong with the right block of Login Screen that was redundant on the center of normal screen. 1152x900 resolution ,which is the default resolution in Solaris.My LCD limitation is 1024x768,I don't know that might be a problem or not,could it be a problem?
Thanks.if you can send me a mail ,I can send the picture to you.
[email protected] , thanks again.

Questions regarding ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card in Sawtooth

Hi, i was checking on the web regarding the specs of my Sawtooth and stumbled upon this page: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermacg4/stats/powermac_g4_400agp.html
My Sawtooth comes with the ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics card. Its indicated the max resolution support is 1920x1200. I was wondering if it is able to support resolution 1680x1050 for wide monitors like the Samsung 205BW? Have anyone tried using a wide screen monitor with the Rage 128 pro card? Does it work well?
I'm not a gamer and i don't intend to upgrade the graphic card. (Though it would be nice to get my hands on the a Radeon 8500 or 9000.) I mainly do graphic work, and currently using a Samsung 740B monitor set at 1280x1028 resolution.

Hi, I posted the exact same question in another forum, and i was directed to this link: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=58395
So i guess it does work. Though maybe, to a certain extend, like mentioned by one of the forum members:
"My old Sawtooth 400MHz G4 had an ATI Rage 128. It drove my 20inch Apple Cinema Display (the current design) with DVI. Not the best graphics, but it could do it, and without any hacks too..."
Hope this helps with anyone having the same questions... : )

No kext for Xserve's ATI RAGE 128 in Leopard

Xserve running OS X Server 10.5.2
The Xserve has an ATI RAGE 128 PCI graphics card from an old G3 Blue & White. System Profiler shows no kext loaded for the graphics card. The monitor displays OK, but ScreenSharing and Timbuktu both display ragged text and graphics when connecting to the Xserve.
The Extensions for the older ATI RAGE 128 graphics cards are absent from Leopard, since it isn't spec'ed to run on the B&W.
Has anyone tried using the ATI RAGE 128 Extensions from Tiger in Leopard?
Has anything changed in the way extensions are implemented that would cause Tiger's ATI RAGE 128 Extensions to fail?
TIA,
Sam

The Rage 128 Pro has all the drivers it needs in OSX, and OS9.2x. Since ATI considers it a discontinued product, they do not supply any drivers or support for it anymore. Try a google search for a manual, you might find one. Make sure to look for the Mac Rage 128 when you look it up.
Here is the thing, because these cards were shipped OEM by Apple (not retail) they didn't come with any cables or manuals, that I am aware of. You might find one for a similar Mac ATI Rage 128 based video card.

ATI 9600 Pro card and Leopard?

Hello!
I would like to know if the video drivers in leopard are better than the ATI Display software. I want to install Leopard on a G5 with Radeon 9600 Pro Mac/PC edition via a simple update, but dont know if the card will be handled right away, and if yes if I'm to install the Ati software (4.5.7 is the latest I think).
Thanx for your input...

Hopefully this will help someone else in my predicament...
I just installed Leopard on a G5 with an old ATI Rage card in it (long story) and found that HD video (x264 .mkv, etc.) was really choppy (go figure!). So I dug up the 9600 card that came with the G5 originally and swapped out the older card with this newer one. The G5 then booted though the Apple logo with the spinning gear and right when it was looking like it would go into the desktop and finish the boot process the screen would just go black.
While searching around the forums for someone else with this problem (and swapping the video cards back out so I could at least boot the G5 and try installing the latest ATI driver from their website) I noticed from another system on my network that when the G5 was running with the 9600 (and the screen was blank) it was still accessible via the network, and even more importantly available for screen sharing (yea Leopard!). So I shared the screen, seeing that it was running a super low res (that the attached DVI monitor did not support, I guess). I switched the res to a known-good setting (1680 x 1050) and suddenly the blank screen snapped to life, and all is working fine now (and HD video playback is smooth as silk!).
If I had installed Leopard with the 9600 installed in the G5 to start with I bet this would not have happened, but hey, live and learn.

Dual head setup (mach64 - ATI Rage Mobility)

hello everyone!
I want to use a new extra monitor I got recently, with my laptop, I use aweosme.
I have installed:
xf86-video-mach64 (recompiled with dri support)
mach64-dri (from community)
mach64drm (from AUR)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mach64
Still I can't get OpenGL to work:
ismaelvc@toybox ~ $ glxinfo | egrep "direct rendering|OpenGL renderer"
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
I don't really know if it got something to do with this but I post it anyway in case it is.
xrandr doesnt detect the other monitor:
ismaelvc@toybox ~ $ xrandr -q
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1024x768 87.0* 85.0 75.0 70.0 60.0 81.0
832x624 75.0
800x600 85.0 75.0 72.0 60.0 56.0
640x480 85.0 75.0 73.0 60.0
720x400 85.0
640x400 85.0
640x350 85.0
512x384 87.0 85.0 75.0 70.0 60.0
416x312 75.0
400x300 85.0 75.0 72.0 60.0 56.0
320x240 85.0 75.0 73.0 60.0
360x200 85.0
320x200 85.0
320x175 85.0
Still it displays exactly the same that gets displayed at my laptop.
I used to had problems with the drivers, I needed both mach64 and radeon for it to detect the screen properly, until I created a "20-mach64.conf" with this:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "mach64"
Card "ATI Rage Mobility - Mach64"
Option "DMAMode" "async"
Option "ForcePCIMode" "false"
Option "AgpMode" "2"
Option "AgpSize" "32"
Option "BufferSize" "2"
Option "LocalTextures" "true"
Option "EnablePageFlip" "true"
EndSection
Section "Module"
#<Your modules>
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Group "video" #change to any desired group to restrict access
Mode 0660
EndSection
I have a doubt regarding the commented line that came as example in the mach64 wiki that reads <your modules>, I don't know what goes in there.
Also I red this for some mach64 related xorg info:
http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/ati5.html
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=201482
The last one is for a cursor problem I have, but it wont get fixed, neither, anyway the default xcursor looks good in awesome, I switched to cli apps form many tasks, and use uzbl now! all this plus arch is now so minimmal I love it lol!
I red in a post (not in this one) mach64 chips supported dual head, but I can't find it again, I will post it when I find it.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: ok here it is, where it say its supported: I don't understand all the configs.
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver … ff432c36bf
Last edited by ismaelvc (2012-06-29 03:52:09)

Sorry to necrobump but I was seeing you get a lot of incorrect information on LinuxQuestions.
The mach64 driver does NOT support dualhead. Some chips are capable of it but this feature has yet to be added to the driver. It is also not compatible with xrandr. The man page you linked to mentioning dualhead support is for xf86-video-ati. It is only accessible from the git history of xf86-video-mach64 because those drivers used to live in the same source tree.
I can try to help with DRI if that's still not working for you.

For All The ATI Radeon9600 Pro users only.

If you are an owner of a built by ATI Radeon 9600pro card then you should take some interest in this post.
Some of you may know of the modifications you can do to the Radeon 9500 non-pro and turning it into a 9700 Pro. By installing the bios of a 9700 into the bios of a 9500 you will fool the computer into making it run as a 9700 pro. The idea was that the board layout and GPU core of the 9500 and 9700 were identical to each other that the only deference was the bios. Same micron cores, but only the 9500 was underclocked via the bios. The quality control team at ATI would test the GPU cores for 9700 performance standards and the ones that fell slightly short were used on some OEM 9500 boards. So doing the bios mod one would achieve, in most cases, 9700 results. A voltage mod would remedy any GPU that couldn't handle the load.
ATI caught wind of this and soon introduced the 9600 and 9800 Radeon series. How ever, you can still modify the 9600 to a lesser degree. On the Built By ATI 9600 pro cards, you will notice a template for a FDD power connector. You can attach an FDD connector to it and will achieve higher overclocking on this card. The reason is simple, more power to the ram and GPU, the more MHz it can handle. The default speeds of the 9600 pro are 400GPU/300RAM. Most boards are reaching 500/345 with out the FDD mod. With the FDD mod you can expect a minimum of 10%, but most results are higher. The 9600 Pro uses a smaller micron core then anything out today, so there is a lot of headroom for overclocking with heat being less of an issue. If you are brave enough to try it, I'm sure you will be impressed with your efforts. I will post my benchtests after I deal with my MOBO issues.
P.S. The FDD mod will only work on the revision 1 Built By ATI Radeon 9600 Pro. These are better also because they use 2.8ns ram as compared to 3.3ns on rev. 2's.

I'm going crazy!!!
I'm not sure if the problem is the graphics card which is the one mentioned.
Because my computer's performance is slower than ever:
* When I restart it takes quite a while to open any aplication.
* Video freezes during playback (playback doesn't stop, but the image does)
* Rendering with Final Cut, Photoshop and Maya is way slower than my old Pc's.
Even when all system software is up to date nothing fixes this problems.
I tried a couple of times reinstalling the hole system but those problems remain intact.
Does anybody knows if this could be fixed with an specific codec or with a different graphic card????
Has some of this issues happened to you????

ATI Rage bug#308485

Hello,
I get this EE: r128(0):No DFP Detected error setting MTRR Invalid argument 22
Reading Google I get DFP is digital flat panel? I have a CRT monitor?? Seems there is a bug in this driver or Xorg. and a fix but don't know.

back again,
Ok , here's some more info. I got a little frustrated trying things and I wanted to make sure that everything was clean so I've reinstalled. I've got X running with TWM. 3 Xterms start when it starts, I've tried ctrl+alt+backspace and it won't exit. I've found a way to kill it ctrl+alt+F2 .
I'm using X.Org X Server 1.6.1.901 (1.6.2 RC1) this is my new error : EE failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist,0)
and get the same for "fbdev". I installed xf86-video-r128 for my ATI rage r128 card. I don't have the error I had before HOWEVER in the beginner's guide it clearly states as of 1.6 you shouldn't need one? or something like that.
I'm a newb so I don't have a clear understanding over modules yet but I saw that it stated the new module init tools required the conf file to be moved is this the possible reason? I also did a lsmod and didn't see either fbdev or r128 or ati listed are they listed somewhere else as I know I installed the package and I saw the fbdev package installed also? thanks

ATI Rage PCI Card is stuck on an Unsupported Res

Hey Folks, I have a G3 B&W PowerMac with a ATI Rage PCI Graphics card that is stuck on an unsupported monitor resolution. I was playing with the settings when I accidently changed the res setting to one my monitor couldn't use. Now the resolution will not change no matter what I do. It all started when I did what I stated above so I did a reinstall after I tried to delete the pref file to fix the problem. I was able to do this from the install disk. My problem is now no matter what I do before I even see Happy Mac the monitor tells me the signal is out of range. I'm going to do a test on the monitor just to check it but I don't think that's what it is. Maybe the Card is Caput? Any ideas? I have a feeling I'm going to have to borrow a CRT to see what's going on. Any ideas or suggestions? Anyone know any other compatible cards? I right now have the 128 Rage. Thanks!

As Grant indicates, there's more than one prefs file that may be at work. The two most probable are Display Preferences and Monitors Preferences (the second is in a folder by the same name - throw away the file inside that folder).
In some cases, particularly with older CRT monitors, it is possible to reset the PRAM in the monitor, too. If your monitor has separate power and video cables, you can try resetting the PRAM in the monitor itself. To do this, power everything down, disconnect the video cable from the Mac. Then turn the monitor on, wait 15 to 20 seconds, then turn it off; wait about 10 seconds, then repeat the cycle, 3 or 4 times. Then reconnect the video cable and boot back up.

Driver for the ati rage 128 ultra graphics card

WE ARE SUPPILED SOLORIES 8 (INTEL BASED) 02/02 TO ONE OF MY CUSTOMER.WE TRY TO INSTALL ON HP XE 320 PC.GRPHICS CARD DRIVER WAS NOT SELLECTING AUTOMATICALLY.IN THAT SYSTEM ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA GRAPHICS CARD(32MB ).WE ARE TRYING DIFFERNT ATI CHIPSET BUT NOT LOADING O/S FINALLY WE SELECT 640*480 STANDARD DRIVER AND LOADING COMPLTELY.I REQUIRE DRIVER FOR ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA DRIVERS.CAN YOU PL. PROVIDE ME.

Hello,
the drivers have been supplied with patch 109401-10. Maybe there are laters revisions.
Patch-ID# 109401-10
Keywords: security X11 6.4.1_x86 video driver ati 810 matrox nvidia s3 kdmconfig
Synopsis: SunOS 5.8_x86: Updated video drivers and fixes
Date: Jul/23/2001
Solaris Release: 8_x86
SunOS Release: 5.8_x86
Best regards
Michael

8600 and ATI Rage 128

Hello all. I have an 8600/200 with a Sonnet G3 400 upgrade card running OS 9.1. I installed an ATI Rage 128 video card from a PM G3 (blue and white, I think). It works OK but when I'm surfing the web and I scroll up/down the page doesn't scroll smoothly, but is instead choppy. I know the card is not native to this 8600 model, but is there any way to smooth out the scrolling choppiness? Is there a driver download from Apple or ATI? Or, would there be another type of video card that would remedy the scrolling for this machine? I installed this card to help speed up the startup since I am using an IBM monitor and at startup it takes longer for the monitor to turn on. Before I installed the ATI card, it had a VGA adapter which worked OK but also had the same startup delay for the monitor, but the scrolling worked better. I've had the same delay with other monitors. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. John

I'm with Grant in assigning 40-odd MB of Ram for use by any OS 9-and-below browser, and with Jeff in using a RAM Disk (under any OS that is capable of supporting one) for the browser's cache, be that browser Netscape, Mozilla or IE. That the RAM Disk may not be persistent (ie, is lost at shutdown) is not often, if ever, a source of sorrow.
If screen redrawing (as tested by Chris's suggestion) is slow, the suspicion has to be that the video card's memory is deficient, either in quantity or activity. If that is the case, removal of the card and careful cleaning of its edge connector, followed by its reseating, and careful checking for the presence and loading of its drivers (in Extensions Manager) may be in order. The quantity oof VRAM you can do little about but by upgrading the whole card. It is not impossible that some housekeeping of your hard drive may be in order. How full is it (85% or less is desirable)? Has it been recently defragmented both as to files and file directory to provide contiguous free space and ready access to files? You may have arrived at a point where the accumulation of little hindrances has become a large hurdle.

HOW TO ATi Rage 128

Hello,
I've posted a few topics about my ATi Rage 128 card... all with minimal help. Unfortunatley there doesn't seem to be anybody out there that knows how to use the Video card... I want to know how to use the inputs on the card? Can I use them as video capture tools? Should i, instead of trying to get this to work, just upgrade to a radeon card??? Thanks in advance,

There are no current video cards (with engines newer than the ATI Rage 128 that allow video input), the newer cards only have S-Video, DVI and VGA output. Using them is simple. Plug in the desired device and boot your machine, at least thats how it should work.
As far as I know, the Rage 128s video input is the only supported under OS9 or earlier. As for output, it works just like any other graphics card, although I think it only supports one screen at a time, but I could be wrong.
http://www.ati.com/products/ragepro/xclaimvr/features.html

ATI Rage Pro 3D

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