ATP allocation impact on Backorder processing

HI All,
We have implemented Product allocation for one of our project. When we were trying to run back order processing we are not getting the desired result.
We have created allocation plan for one of the customer and maintined allocation qty as 50 pcs.
Then we created a sales order for the same customer with 100 pcs. At the time sales order creation the stock was zero in that plant.
Then we posted 100 pcs of that material in to stock. When we run back order processing as per the functionality only 50pcs of the stock should get assigned to that particualr sales order since we have maintined 50 pcs as the allocation.
But when we run the actual BOP using V_V2 not even a single piece is getting assigned the that order.
then we tried to make below changes and executed BOP.
1.We changed the sales order qty to 50 insted of 100. Then executed the BOP then 50 pcs are getting confirmed to sales order.
Can any one tell why it is not confirming when the order qty was more than allocation qty?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,Babs

sai and Tibor,
Thank you both very much for your prompt replies. It does seem logical to me that backorder processing should execute the same rules-based ATP processes as the original check when creating the sales order. Unfortunately it's not working as we expect during our testing.
I have two issues...
First, if a sales order has no quantity confirmed, then backorder processing does not see that sales order at all. The "Backorder Processing Worklist" transaction shows the sales order but when executing "Batch Backorder Processing" the sales order is not included in the output. I've turned on the ATP Application Log and I see this error in the log...
Item IJv{EkpP06m000002Wfr8G (status I) was not found in the items
Message no. /SAPAPO/ATPLOG_BOP025
The item number corresponds to values that I see in the ATP Tree Structure after the BOP run. Has anyone seen this type of problem before?
The second issue is related to sales orders that DO have confirmed quantity. Backorder processing will handle those orders but only seems to run basic ATP checks. It does not appear to execute the rules-based ATP check, even with the Rules Eval (Again) flag set. For example, we have a rule set up for location determination that substitutes plants in the event of a shortage. When we execute the backorder processing, the ATP Application Log shows that it's finding the correct rule but it doesn't seem that the rule is actually being executed. The only stock that is confirmed is the stock in the ordering plant. The system doesn't confirm any of the available stock in the other plants to the sales order in backorder processing.
Has anyone seen this behavior? Do we need to have a second set of check instructions for business event BO (backorder processing)? Can you suggest any other configuration that we might need to check?
Thanks again for your thoughtful responses.
Regards,
David Eady
Application Delivery Team Lead
Propex, Inc

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