Attribute Change Run VS Master data activation

hello guys
I just want to know whats the difference between 'Attribute Change Run' and Master data Activation...For me,both seem to serve same purpose.......in which scenarios do we use them?
Thanks and Regards
S

Hi S,
Although they seem to be the same there are differences.
Master Data activation.: When you load master data, they are loaded as D or M versions. Check the table as /BI0/P<infoobject tech name> , you will see different versions, if you have not activated your master data yet.
Note : If you are checking for SAP standard objects, drop the 0 eg table for 0MATERIAL would be /BI0/PMATERIAL.
When you activate master data, all D and M versions of records get transferred into A or active versions. So after activation, you should not find anything other than A versions.
ACR: The use of an ACR is two fold. 1st use is that it performs the same action as a master data activation automatically.
The 2nd function, is that it realligns the aggregates for the changed attributes
let me give you an example.
You have an aggregate based on material group which is an aggregate of material.
Consider that you have a material X which initial belonged to group A.
The aggregate would look like this
Material Material Group Keyfigure
X A 100
Now you change the material group of the same material as B
The aggregate would not change automatically....ie it would still be X A 100
To realign the aggregate,you use an ACR. After running an ACR, the aggregate would look like
X B 100
Hope this helps.
Regards.

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Aggregates with Attribute Change Run and Master data

Hi !
I created Aggregate which includes Master Data such as Customer , Customer Number , Material , Material Number.....
It also contains navigational attribute and hierarchy...
Now we all know that if Master data and Hierarchy changes frequently(or some new values are added or new attributes are added etc.) we want to see the respective change in Aggregates too
So just Rolling up aggregate will not help.
We need to apply Attribute Change run for this purpose, to aggregates..
Now the question is HOW TO APPLY ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN to aggregates?
How to automate this process with Process chains..?
If i create Aggregate on Master Data CUSTOMER NO., DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE THAT AGGREGATE IN ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN FOR THAT CUSTOMER NO. PROCESS CHAINS ? Yes or No..........
(What i mean to say is if there is Attribute Change Run for Customer No. and if this is in Process chains specially created for Customer Number , than as aggregates are created on Customer No., does i t automatically applies and make changes to Aggregate too, or do we hvae to create special process chian for it ?)
Please reply asap ? its urgent

hi,
check these links for attribute change run
What's the attribute change run? and the common sequence of a process chain
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw30b/helpdata/en/80/1a67ece07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/content.htm
regards
harikrishna N

Attribute change run on master data.

hi all,
i have meta chain in that 1 local chain got failed in Load data step tell me every possiblity to load data
1)repeat Process :- why ? what is basic criteria for same
2)manual data load :- how ?
and most important how to run ACR in that cube (diff ways)
Please provide step by step process for same..

1)If a load fails in loading due to exceptions or a conection, we can repeat the step.
Before repeating, we need to delete the previous request in red status.
If it fails in activation, we can resolve the error and then repeat the step.
Basically what we need to check is that there is no data to be in red status and also every step needs to be run in the process chain in the same sequence.
2)Some times we need to do a manual load. I will explain one scenario.
data load fails in activation due to data error.
now as the data already loaded in DSO cannno be activated,we delete the data from DSO,edit the data in source and Run the DTP manually(as the status of dtp is already in grren in process chain,we cannot repeat). Oncce the data is loaded, we can repeat the activation error.
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Change run failure: Master data still in M version

Hi Experts,
We have an attribute change run that failed. We checked the master data and there are still entries in M version. We have tried to execute change run manually, but the infoobject is not listed. Checking RSRV we have the error "value 1000 for 0MATERIAL is in external and not internal format," and "there are values with the wrong internal format in the SID table."
We are thinking this is a probable reason why change run is failing.

Hi.........
Check the conversion Routine for 0MATERIAL.........What conversion routine u hav used.........We r using ALPHA.......this is the standard one........hav u changed it.......
Check this...
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/7108a690-0201-0010-4cbc-9bca94f9ad9c
Also u can check the Log of the Change run..............Go to RSA1 >> In the top TOOLS tab >> Apply Hierarchy/Attribute Change >> Select the Attribute Change run and click on LOG....
Regards,
Debjani....

How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregat

Hello
I want to understand that How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate?
I posted previously the same question but there were not good answers and i was not able to understand clearly .....
If there is Process chain XXY which makes Attribute change run for Master Data 0SPELLING ?
Now there is Aggregate TRT which includes :
0SPELLING , Fiscal Period , Purchase Product, Purchase Category ?
Now pls answer following question ?
1) Does the Process Chain XXY which makes only attribute change run alignment for 0SPELLING , Will this process chain automatically do the Change run alignment for 0SPELLING in Aggregate TRT ? YES or NO
2) If Yes, then we are just suppose to do Roll up for Aggregate TRT after Process chian XXY completes and finish job ?
3) If No, then what steps are suppose to be DONE so as to make sure that Aggregate TRT has new values and perfect values for 0SPELLING ?
Please answer and coorect if i have any wrong question....

for e.g.
u have 0spelling whicha has attributes x,y and z on day 1 with 10 records
so do ur aggregates on day1 with same values
now on day2 u had new values of attributes y,z,s,d and new hierarchies and so u add new records
with data load u will load the data with version M of modified and is not available for reporting
If u do attribute change run then this modified version is activated to A i.e. active version .
It will also do the change run alignment for Aggregate for new attribute values and new hierarchy values for aggregate.
now in order for this data to be available for reporting u will need to do the roll up of aggregate.....
if u roll up aggregate before attribute change run , new data is not avaialable for reporting
if u roll up aggregate after attribute change run, then data is available for reporting
if u dont roll up aggregate eventhough new data is in dataprovider, still new data will not be available for reporting.
this is how it works

How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate

Hello
I want to understand that How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate?
I posted previously the same question but there were not good answers and i was not able to understand clearly .....
If there is Process chain XXY which makes Attribute change run for Master Data 0SPELLING ?
Now there is Aggregate TRT which includes :
0SPELLING , Fiscal Period , Purchase Product, Purchase Category ?
Now pls answer following question ?
1) Does the Process Chain XXY which makes only attribute change run alignment for 0SPELLING , Will this process chain automatically do the Change run alignment for 0SPELLING in Aggregate TRT ? YES or NO
2) If Yes, then we are just suppose to do Roll up for Aggregate TRT after Process chian XXY completes and finish job ?
3) If No, then what steps are suppose to be DONE so as to make sure that Aggregate TRT has new values and perfect values for 0SPELLING ?
Please answer and coorect if i have any wrong question....

for e.g.
u have 0spelling whicha has attributes x,y and z on day 1 with 10 records
so do ur aggregates on day1 with same values
now on day2 u had new values of attributes y,z,s,d and new hierarchies and so u add new records
with data load u will load the data with version M of modified and is not available for reporting
If u do attribute change run then this modified version is activated to A i.e. active version .
It will also do the change run alignment for Aggregate for new attribute values and new hierarchy values for aggregate.
now in order for this data to be available for reporting u will need to do the roll up of aggregate.....
if u roll up aggregate before attribute change run , new data is not avaialable for reporting
if u roll up aggregate after attribute change run, then data is available for reporting
if u dont roll up aggregate eventhough new data is in dataprovider, still new data will not be available for reporting.
this is how it works

Attribute change run---imp--urgent

hi experts,
when i am trying to run attribute change run for master data infoobject, always it gets cancelled, the reason system shows for cancelled attribute change run is "Hierarchy/Attribute change cancelled (protocol/Shortdump)"
what is the reason for this and secondly when i try to do the manual activation of that particular infoobject, it gives a pop-up window saying " The infoobject XXXX is already active" which means that though we are doing the manual activation, it is not doing the activation. Why i am strong in saying this is beacuse there were new records entered into that infoobject and after the data loading when i activate it manually because attribute change run is not running successully, it shows that infoobject data is already active.
why is it so ? what could be the reason?
would appreciate your quick responce

Hi,
Are you able to schedule the Attribute change run from Tools-> attribute Hierarchy change run? I hope you still able to see your Info object in the list.
Check the shortdump. May be you can find a clue as sometimes some aggrgetaes cause problem while adjusting. If you find such aggrgeate, deactivate it and run teh change run.
You can also check in the Attribute change run monitor. There also youw ill find clues as which aggrgeate is causing the problem.
Regards
Srini

Master data attribute change run error

hi all,
plz tell me the procedure to overcome the masterdata attribute change run error.plz explain me with steps clearly
thanks in advance,
jack

Hi Jack,
The process of Attribute change run is just the activation of the Master data same as DSO's.
In RSA1>tools>Apply Hierarchy/Attribute change run(CRTL+F9). You can check your object for which the attribute change run has to be applied through the infoobject list.
Then execute. now the attribute change run is completed.
Please ensure the infoobject is activated.
Provide us the error message to give you more details.
Regards,
Ravi

Issue: attributes change run triggers the rebuilt of 0IC_C03 aggregates

Hello Guru,
I am facing to a problem that I don't understand.
Here is below the detail of the messages of a '3-infoobjects attributes change run' step of a Master Data process chain.
22:06:14     Job started
22:06:14     Step 001 started (program RSPROCESS, variant &0000000231235, user ID RFC_BW)
22:06:16     Starting process type ATTRIBCHAN with 3 objects...
22:06:16     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K with ID 22061600
22:06:16     Editing of aggregate 100139; background job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K; start time 22:06:16/07.07.2010
22:06:18     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K with ID 22061601
22:06:18     Editing of aggregate 100143; background job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K; start time 22:06:18/07.07.2010
23:02:29     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K with ID 23022900
23:02:29     Editing of aggregate 100140; background job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K; start time 23:02:29/07.07.2010
23:52:38     Starting process type MDHIERACT with 2 objects...
23:52:39     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BIACTI_D8FCR9Y1NWOP2T4F76FYE0HDG with ID 23523900
23:52:39     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BIACTI_D8FCR9Y1NWOP2T4F76FYE0HDG with ID 23523901
23:53:10     Aggregate 100139: Repair indexes
23:57:14     Aggregate 100140: Repair indexes
00:17:23     Aggregate 100143: Repair indexes
00:50:09     3 aggregates are condensed
00:50:09     Starting process type CONDAGGR with 3 objects...
00:50:10     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG with ID 00501000
00:50:10     Editing of aggregate 100143; background job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG; start time 00:50:10/08.07.2010
00:50:10     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG with ID 00501001
00:50:10     Editing of aggregate 100140; background job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG; start time 00:50:10/08.07.2010
00:50:16     Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG with ID 00501600
00:50:16     Editing of aggregate 100139; background job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG; start time 00:50:16/08.07.2010
00:50:22     Hierarchy/attribute change successfully carried out
00:50:23     Event RSPROCESS with parameter D59BE8XWZMHY0IFP2VLEFP671 successfully triggered
00:50:23     Job finished
As you can observe, the step takes almost 3 hours !!!!!!! After anlyses BICHNG_* concerns
22:06:16 Job started
22:06:16 Step 001 started (program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS, variant &0000000891873, user ID RFC_BW)
22:06:18 Aggregate 100139( 0IC_C03) is being adapted / rebuilt
22:06:18 Statistic UID of the aggregate process: 'D8FC4Q9KSAMRDWQ1RDPPKMF3O' (RSDDSTATAGGR)
22:06:27 Aggregate 100139: Read (1) from table /BI0/E0ICC03_ (max 500000 records)22:06:27 SQL: 07.07.2010 22:06:27 RFC_BW
I don't understand what is the link between the '3-infoobjects attributes change run' (BBATCH, 0MAT_SALES, 0MAT_PLANT) and the rebuilt of 3 0IC_C03 (Material Stocks/Movements) aggregates (why does the 'attribute chan run' trigger the rebuit of aggregates???).
The rebuilt of the 3 aggregates takes 1 416, 3 366, 3 009 secondes...
Does anyone understand my problematic? If not I can give you more details.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Samuel

1/ Exactly Fred
Here is the definitions of the aggregate:
100139:
0PLANT
0STOR_LOC
0MAT_PLANT__0VAL_CLASS
0STOCKCAT
0STOCKTYPE
BMODIFIC
BMVTSTOCK
0MATL_TYPE
0CALxxx
2/ For my information in the aggregate 100140 , does the presence of BBATCH (one of the 3 IO) trigger the rebuilt or is it only 0MAT_PLANT__0VAL_CLASS ?
100140:
0PLANT
0STOR_LOC
0MATERIAL
0MAT_PLANT__0VAL_CLASS
BBATCH
0STOCKCAT
0STOCKTYPE
BMODIFIC
BMVTSTOCK
0MATL_TYPE
0CALxxx
3/ In the same process chain, I have another Attributes Change Run: 0MATERIAL. Several active aggregates using 0MATERIAL__0MATL_TYPE are built on a CO-PA cube.
Why did the '0MATERIAL Attributes Change Run' rebuild no aggregate? (see below)
22:06:04     Job started
22:06:04     Step 001 started (program RSPROCESS, variant &0000000231238, user ID RFC_BW)
22:06:06     Activation of master data for 0MATERIAL
22:06:07     154 Data records deleted
22:06:11     154 Data records deleted
22:06:12     154 Data records updated
22:06:13     154 Data records updated
22:06:13     0 aggregates are condensed
22:06:14     Hierarchy/attribute change successfully carried out
22:06:14     Event RSPROCESS with parameter D59BEEE069HKRCRU0ZPYFUPB1 successfully triggered
22:06:14     Job finished
Samuel

Attribute change run problem

Hello Gurus,
I have deleted all the master data tables(P,S,X,T). Deleted the PSA table entries too. I am loading data frm R/3.
No data exists in 0VENDOR ,when i click manage master data.
When the moment I load data in 0VENDOR_ATTR, without doing Attribute change run(ACR), the data is getting displayed in Maintain master data.
Please let me know why this happens.
Thanks,
Sonu

Hi
According to my understanding of your issue, there is no master data in 0VENDOR, i.e., all the Dimension tables along with SID's are deleted.
But SIDs of the 0VENDOR_ATTR(whcih is the attr of 0VENDOR and also acts as characteristic) exists.
Sow hen you load data the master data is written into 0VENDOR and hence teh SID's of the attr are not deleted do teh master data will exists for 0VENDOR_ATTR.
Please let me know incase i got your question wrong.
Regards, Hyma

Abt master data activation and attribute change run

There is any difference between master data activation and attribute change run

Hi,
Master data activation is activating the master data once you extract the data from source system the data will be in inactive state, so in order to make the data available we will activate the master data.
Attribute change run :Its used to update the newly changed master data records to the Hierachies and aggregates.
If you are already using the available master data in aggregates in InfoCubes, you cannot activate the master data individually. In this case we will use attribute change run.
For attribute change run we have direct tcode: RSATTR or In the main menu, choose the path Tools Hierarchy/Attribute Change.
regards
KP

Difference between Activating Master Data and Attribute Change Run

Hi
Is there any difference between Atribute change run and Activating Master data functionaaly???
if wha it is???
can any one explain clearly?
Thanks
Chinna

When u load master data and its attribute to ur data target and if u change any data or attributes of ur master data,in order to update new data to ur data target attribute change run is performed.
When u create a characteristic and if u keep it as master data and activated..it is master data activation
Activating Master Data
When you update master data from an SAP system the master data is imported in an inactive state. You must activate the new master data so that it can be accessed and used for reporting purposes.
For more information, see Versioning Master Data.
Choose the path InfoObject Tree Context Menu of Corresponding Characteristic Activate Master Data.
Upon Activation there are two scenarios to choose from:
The Corresponding Master Data Is Already Being Used in Aggregates in the InfoCube:
If you are already using the available master data in aggregates in InfoCubes, you cannot activate the master data individually. In this case, proceed as follows:
1. In the main menu, choose the path Tools Hierarchy/Attribute Change.
2. Proceed as described in System Response upon Changes to Data: Aggregate.
The system now automatically restructures and activates the master data and its aggregates.
Please note that this process can take several hours if the volume of data is relatively high. Therefore, you should simultaneously activate all of the characteristics that are affected by changes to their master data, at regular intervals.
The Corresponding Master Data Is Not Used in Aggregates:
Choose the path InfoObject Tree ® Context Menu of Corresponding Characteristic Activate.
The system now automatically activates the master data so that it can be used directly in reporting.
If there is any change r newly added records in master data..then that particular data will not b avialable for the reporting unless u do activate master data...
if u r using aggregates and then there is any change in master data ...then that particular master data change wil not b available for the reporting unless u do arrtibute change run for that info object.(T-code RSATTR)
Master data attributes and hierachies are used in cube aggregates also. So to do update the latest master data attributes values in the aggregtes attribute change run need to be performed.So Attribute change run also updates the master data attributes in aggregates which is not apart of master data activation.
Text loads do not need attribute change run. Attributes, hierarchies and aggregates need attribute/hierarchy change runs. If you do not have aggregates, just activating the master data is same as attribute change run.

How does attribute change run works for Aggregates and Master data?

Hi
Can anybody xplain how does the attribute change run works for Master data ?
For e.g.
There is 0spelling and it has master data
On Day 1 there are 10 records
day 2 it has 12 records
so with attribute change run this 2 new records will get added....
The values for this 12 records will added seperately in Data load
Is this how it workss
So how about Aggregates which has Master data.????

for e.g.
u have 0spelling whicha has attributes x,y and z on day 1 with 10 records
so do ur aggregates on day1 with same values
now on day2 u had new values of attributes y,z,s,d and new hierarchies and so u add new records
with data load u will load the data with version M of modified and is not available for reporting
If u do attribute change run then this modified version is activated to A i.e. active version .
It will also do the change run alignment for Aggregate for new attribute values and new hierarchy values for aggregate.
now in order for this data to be available for reporting u will need to do the roll up of aggregate.....
if u roll up aggregate before attribute change run , new data is not avaialable for reporting
if u roll up aggregate after attribute change run, then data is available for reporting
if u dont roll up aggregate eventhough new data is in dataprovider, still new data will not be available for reporting.
this is how it works

Can we apply attribute change run for datatarget (Master data )

hi,
can we apply attribute change run for datatarget like masterdata where for example i am loading 0pm_order_attr to 0pm_order data target (master data). after successful loading of data, do i have to apply attribute change run for info object 0pm_order or apply attribute change run for 0pm_order in info providers because after successful loading of pm order data, i am trying to load transactional data and it is showing error "No SID value found for xxx record"
pls advice how not to make the error repeat even after successful loading of master data.
Thanks in advance, quick responce is greatly appreciated.

Hi all,
i am in production server and cannot activate the master data 0pm_order which is in info providers directly, is there any chance of activating it with any other option.
coming to attribute change run, i understand that we can apply for master data objects which are there in info providers, am i correct?
i ran attribute change run yesterday for the info object 0pm_order but even after doing that i tried to load transactional data but it was failure with the same error "No SID value found", why i am getting when i found master data loading successful and ran attribute change run for infoobject.

Why you cannot compress data while attribute change run is active?

why you cannot compress data while attribute change run is active?
Also, are there any prerequisites before running a compression.
Will the aggregates get inactive after running compression?
Regards,
Simmi

Hi Simmi,
I'm not sure what are u looking for ..???? now u are asking whther if activation starts at the same time for 2 ODS,.. there wont be any problem if the activation starts parallelly..
but these activation fails if the change run is running for the common master data. So make sure that when ever change run is running the corresponding master data will gets lock. thats the reason why u can see locks in rollup, compressions or any other parallel change runs....
Hope this helps....
Assign points if this helps.
thanks
Vishnu

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