AU effects plugins passed validation but not appearing in AU list

I have two au plugins that are not available to me for selection as inserts despite the fact that they are successful validations. The are IK's CSR and King Dubby: no problems with 10 others that have installed OK, such as UAD, Nomad Factory, Ohm Force, etc. Strange thing is that when I loaded and old arrangement that contained CSR, it was avalable (that was how I managed to authorize) but when i attempted to create a blank template by stripping all the settings in the old arrangement to create a 'blank' arrangement to use as a starting point, the CSR and King Dubby are no longer available from the au drop down list. So: they are there but not there...any ideas? I have tried all sorts of variations with rescanning au validation, repairing permissions, rebooting...to no avail...any insight would be appreciated. Having saif all this...I do love the new Pro 8

Some plugins have different input requirements.
For example, blockfish only has stereo inputs, so if you call up the plugin list on a mono, it's not there, but is there for stereo channels.
(Of course, Logic has a solution for this by option-clicking the plugin list to force stereo-only plugs no mon channels etc in the usual Logic way...)
But see whether those plugs are in the listing depending on whether it's a mono or stereo channel...

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