Audigy 2 zs: which audio card drive

in a program like Reason or Cubase, which driver should i select in the audio properties? there is usually 3 or 4 choices; ASIO SB Audigy 2 ZS 24/96 [C400], or ASIO SB Audigy 2 ZS [C400], or just Creative ASIO. what are the differences between these drivers in a program like those mentioned. i usually can figure stuff like this out, but i'm really confused this time. thanks
LE

The_Thing,
The Audigy 2 ZS adds in the ability to do DTS decoding for DVD's which is a rather big addition if you plan on playing DVD's on your system. Since you are running the 4. speakers I doubt that this is going to be something that you do a lot of. From a sound standpoint the main advantage is the increase in the SNR from 06dB to 08dB. This is a large increase however the Audigy 2 still produces incredibly good sound. It is probably going to come down to what the cards are going to cost you. If you can get the Audigy 2 ZS for the same or almost the same price as the Audigy 2 then I would go with the ZS. All of these numbers are based on the retail versions of the cards so if you look at OEM versions these numbers may be different.
As far as speakers go, you might want to go ahead and start shopping for speakers also. Prices on high quality 5. - 7. speaker systems have dropped sharply and you might even be able to find bundle packs that could save you a lot. Either way I think you are going to be happy with what you get no matter which you choose.
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hi i just like to say i had a similar fault though i would be surprised if it causing yours,but you never know,my fault was my laptop lid, [9 months old] it contains the mic ,and when the lid was in a certain angle crackles could be heard worse when i had my external sound card in, it was a faulty membrane [ lid to body] easily missed by engineer because it was the same angle all the time it happened,good luck, PS you English is very good
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